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Your refrigerator is as dangerous as ISIS!

Deuce said:
Doesn't make any sense. Kerry isn't saying refrigerators are dangerous. But you thought he was saying that, because someone told you he said that.
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So...

Is it your contention that Kerry is saying that ISIS is not dangerous?
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL...

This is fun!
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Let me help you out, because every single right-winger has missed this. (because not one of you actually listened to or read Kerry's statement and instead let a blogger tell you what Kerry said.)

Kerry was saying climate change as a whole was as important an issue as ISIL. Not "killer refrigerators."
 
Deuce said:
Let me help you out, because every single right-winger has missed this. (because not one of you actually listened to or read Kerry's statement and instead let a blogger tell you what Kerry said.)

Kerry was saying climate change as a whole was as important an issue as ISIL. Not "killer refrigerators."
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But it is not as important of an issue.

Period.

How can anyone think that?

The new refrigerants are harmless at the levels they are released in the atmosphere.
 
chuckiechan said:
I used to live in Tucson, and when my air conditioning died I understood why the Indians were so ornery!

I live in Sacramento now, and it is not surviveable here without air conditioning! I see why ISIS is so ill tempered!
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Are you saying that Sacramento is hotter than Tuscon? Why?
 
sanman said:
Are you saying that Sacramento is hotter than Tuscon? Why?
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Sacramento gets damn hot. It's on the other side of the mountains. It gets just enough moisture to have that extra greenhouse effect from H2O.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Post 14 represents more alarmist propaganda.
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What do you mean with alarmist propaganda? I have linked to mainstream sources and organizations like for example the USA military and UNHCR.

Also even if you don’t care about thousands of deaths every year from air pollution from coal fired power plants just in the USA and the evidence for anthropogenic global warming you should at least be worry about Saudi Arabia. Because thanks to all their oil sales to western countries they now have the world’s third biggest military spending. Especially since Saudi Arabia in many ways are “ISIS light”.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...al-punishments-compare-to-the-islamic-states/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-briton-350-lashes-saudi-arabia-david-cameron

Also there are alternatives to reduce the need for air conditioners for example in areas of USA that have cold winters and warm summers it can be especially good to use district heating during wintertime that also works as district cooling in the summertime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_heating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_cooling

The same thing with downhole heat exchanger that it can be used for heat during wintertime and for cooling during summertime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downhole_heat_exchanger
 
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Lord of Planar said:
But it is not as important of an issue.

Period.

How can anyone think that?

The new refrigerants are harmless at the levels they are released in the atmosphere.
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And 50 years ago I'm sure someone said that about CO2. Good to get out ahead of one of them while we can.

But you still haven't admitted to the mistake.
 
jmotivator said:
Yes, I've read it. Now give me the larger context that changes the meaning of that passage.
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He's talking about climate change as a whole being as important an issue as ISIL, not "killer refrigerators."

The two sentences the bloggers keep giving you are six paragraphs apart. And you're still taking their interpretation.
 
Deuce said:
He's talking about climate change as a whole being as important an issue as ISIL, not "killer refrigerators."

The two sentences the bloggers keep giving you are six paragraphs apart. And you're still taking their interpretation.
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So why haven't you posted the complete quotes in context?
 
Deuce said:
He's talking about climate change as a whole being as important an issue as ISIL, not "killer refrigerators."

The two sentences the bloggers keep giving you are six paragraphs apart. And you're still taking their interpretation.
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Nope. In that quote he specifically says what they are doing THERE (Montreal Protocol) is as important as fighting ISIS.

Kerry is comparing the Montreal Protocol w/ regard to climate change to ISIS with regard to the Middle East.

The larger contexts of AGW alarmism and world peace don't change the stupid comparison even a little.
 
jmotivator said:
Nope. In that quote he specifically says what they are doing THERE (Montreal Protocol) is as important as fighting ISIS.

Kerry is comparing the Montreal Protocol w/ regard to climate change to ISIS with regard to the Middle East.

The larger contexts of AGW alarmism and world peace don't change the stupid comparison even a little.
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Yes, and dealing with climate change is just as important as fighting ISIS. It's harder for people to accept, because they think ISIS is some direct, physical, immediate threat to them whereas climate change is more of an indefinite, long term, indirect threat and our brains just aren't really wired to see them as being equal. ISIS is a bunch of violent religious lunatics but that's all they're ever going to be. They're a nasty regional problem, not a global threat. Americans are freaking out about them but statistically you and I are literally more likely to be killed by bees. (~58 deaths per year)

But I'm glad you've backtracked from the "killer refrigerator" nonsense bloggers have been vomiting everywhere.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, and dealing with climate change is just as important as fighting ISIS.
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That isn't the comparison he made! Had he said Climate Change is as important as World Peace he would have made a reason, albeit debatable, comparison. But he didn't do that. He compared the Montreal Protocol to fighting ISIS. Full stop.

I mean, if you want to change the scope of the claim to suit you then he also said that regulating refrigerants is as important as world peace. But he didn't say that either. In reality he made the exact comparison that the OP reported.

It's harder for people to accept, because they think ISIS is some direct, physical, immediate threat to them whereas climate change is more of an indefinite, long term, indirect threat and our brains just aren't really wired to see them as being equal. ISIS is a bunch of violent religious lunatics but that's all they're ever going to be. They're a nasty regional problem, not a global threat. Americans are freaking out about them but statistically you and I are literally more likely to be killed by bees. (~58 deaths per year)
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And how many people has AGW killed? Zero. The AGW wackaloons have tried for years to pin a lot of dead polar bears on AGW... except the polar bear populations aren't dwindling.

All the scare tactics of AGW are things that may happen someday. ISIS is killing people today.

But I'm glad you've backtracked from the "killer refrigerator" nonsense bloggers have been vomiting everywhere.
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They are accurately portraying Kerry's idiotic statement.
 
jmotivator said:
And how many people has AGW killed? Zero.
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This is precisely what I was talking about with the indirect, indefinite threat and how the human brain isn't wired to accept it.

Pinning any specific person's death on AGW is essentially impossible, so you guys will always convince yourselves the number is zero.
 
Deuce said:
This is precisely what I was talking about with the indirect, indefinite threat and how the human brain isn't wired to accept it.

Pinning any specific person's death on AGW is essentially impossible, so you guys will always convince yourself the number is zero.
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It's so weird... you seem to grasp why Kerry's comparison of Refrigerator coolant and ISIS was so stupid and yet you still try to defend it.
 
jmotivator said:
It's so weird... you seem to grasp why Kerry's comparison of Refrigerator coolant and ISIS was so stupid and yet you still try to defend it.
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He wasn't comparing refrigerator coolant to ISIS. He was comparing global warming to ISIS.

But some blogger told you different and you'll do whatever mental gymnastics it takes to keep believing that.
 
There are some memes that are simply too absurd to catch on no matter how hard they're pushed ... this one that Kerry and Obama have been pushing is one of them.
 
Deuce said:
He wasn't comparing refrigerator coolant to ISIS. He was comparing global warming to ISIS.
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Again, no he wasn't. He may have been making a larger comparison between the War on Terror and the War on Climate Change, but he couched the war on ISIS and the War on Refrigerators as equal in importance. You are just suffering from cognative dissonance and can't read his words for their actual meaning right now.

Someday, maybe you'll be able to....

But some blogger told you different and you'll do whatever mental gymnastics it takes to keep believing that.
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Nope, Kerry told me directly. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get your marching orders from some blogger, though. Your denial smells likes Vox.
 
jmotivator said:
Again, no he wasn't. He may have been making a larger comparison between the War on Terror and the War on Climate Change, but he couched the war on ISIS and the War on Refrigerators as equal in importance. You are just suffering from cognative dissonance and can't read his words for their actual meaning right now.

Someday, maybe you'll be able to....



Nope, Kerry told me directly. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get your marching orders from some blogger, though.
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The Montreal Protocol is not a "war on refrigerators," sorry.
 
Deuce said:
The Montreal Protocol is not a "war on refrigerators," sorry.
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LOL! I find the term "War on refrigerators" suitably disparaging for their quixotic crusade.
 
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