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CLAX1911

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I was prompted to start this thread from another discussion.

So I notice some issues with our public School system in the United States. With a population more focused on higher education and of course a greater need for higher education, are public schools seem to be failing to prep students for such a thing.

This discussion is to find out why.

What I think it is, is in over a hundred years our school curriculum or structure hasn't changed. It might have actually been longer. The problem is is the country has moved from a manufacturing-based economy to a more diversified economy we don't need as many docile sober and punctual factory workers. But our schools are mainly to train people to be just that.

I can expand upon this but I would really like to hear what other people have to say first.
 
This post is an example of the failure of are <sic> public schools.......
 
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What baffles me is that we have known for years that different kids have different leaning styles, but we never used that information. Imagine how we could connect with kids if we tested their learning style and put them with teachers suited to that style. There are tons of psychology facts that we do nothing with. Making a 6 year old sit still for 7 hours doesn't help them focus it breaks concentration.

Happiness is actually one of the most important factors in learning but you won't see it brought up much in traditional classes. Finland has a education structure that seems perfect for winning over kids and showing them their education is important. Link below.

YouTube

I wish I had more to say but this video kinda portrays what I want for my future child. I don't know if Finland has a perfect system by any means, but they are number 3 in the world in education while I had a teacher tell me dinosaurs weren't really animals.
 
Izzy said:
What baffles me is that we have known for years that different kids have different leaning styles, but we never used that information. Imagine how we could connect with kids if we tested their learning style and put them with teachers suited to that style. There are tons of psychology facts that we do nothing with. Making a 6 year old sit still for 7 hours doesn't help them focus it breaks concentration.

Happiness is actually one of the most important factors in learning but you won't see it brought up much in traditional classes. Finland has a education structure that seems perfect for winning over kids and showing them their education is important. Link below.

YouTube

I wish I had more to say but this video kinda portrays what I want for my future child. I don't know if Finland has a perfect system by any means, but they are number 3 in the world in education while I had a teacher tell me dinosaurs weren't really animals.
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I remember reading about Finland.

Finland's school system is designed to educate people our's is designed to make docile sober and punctual factory workers.

Michael Moore said it himself, how are they going to get jobs cuz the seven year old and really needs to be concerned with that.
 
Izzy said:
What baffles me is that we have known for years that different kids have different leaning styles, but we never used that information. Imagine how we could connect with kids if we tested their learning style and put them with teachers suited to that style. There are tons of psychology facts that we do nothing with. Making a 6 year old sit still for 7 hours doesn't help them focus it breaks concentration.

Happiness is actually one of the most important factors in learning but you won't see it brought up much in traditional classes. Finland has a education structure that seems perfect for winning over kids and showing them their education is important. Link below.

YouTube

I wish I had more to say but this video kinda portrays what I want for my future child. I don't know if Finland has a perfect system by any means, but they are number 3 in the world in education while I had a teacher tell me dinosaurs weren't really animals.
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Interesting take from someone who went to Finnish schools.

 
CLAX1911 said:
I was prompted to start this thread from another discussion.

So I notice some issues with our public School system in the United States. With a population more focused on higher education and of course a greater need for higher education, are public schools seem to be failing to prep students for such a thing.

This discussion is to find out why.

What I think it is, is in over a hundred years our school curriculum or structure hasn't changed. It might have actually been longer. The problem is is the country has moved from a manufacturing-based economy to a more diversified economy we don't need as many docile sober and punctual factory workers. But our schools are mainly to train people to be just that.

I can expand upon this but I would really like to hear what other people have to say first.
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I have a entirely different take

Our problem is our very citizenry itself

Nothing good politically happens until we reform that

Americans need to learn to be Americans
 
CLAX1911 said:
I was prompted to start this thread from another discussion.

So I notice some issues with our public School system in the United States. With a population more focused on higher education and of course a greater need for higher education, are public schools seem to be failing to prep students for such a thing.

This discussion is to find out why.

What I think it is, is in over a hundred years our school curriculum or structure hasn't changed. It might have actually been longer. The problem is is the country has moved from a manufacturing-based economy to a more diversified economy we don't need as many docile sober and punctual factory workers. But our schools are mainly to train people to be just that.

I can expand upon this but I would really like to hear what other people have to say first.
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I think people who regurgitate generalized talking points and don't bother to provide specifics or research specifics should shampoo my crotch.

Luther said:
I have a entirely different take

Our problem is our very citizenry itself

Nothing good politically happens until we reform that

Americans need to learn to be Americans
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Bingo. There are bad apples in anything in this world and public education (or private, for that matter) is certainly not immune. But if society fixed their attitudes on education first, made sure it was important to each and every family and their children, there would be far fewer stupid discussions started about education.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Interesting take from someone who went to Finnish schools.

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Here's an interesting take on Immigration Fin vs U.S?

We have twice the % of immigrants than Finland

What do ya think that means as far as education?
 
Luther said:
I have a entirely different take

Our problem is our very citizenry itself

Nothing good politically happens until we reform that

Americans need to learn to be Americans
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And your plan is to have kids memorize speeches



Priceless
 
vegas giants said:
And your plan is to have kids memorize speeches



Priceless
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Specifics please?

What "speech" was I referring to?

And that is NOT the only thing(wink)
 
Luther said:
Specifics please?

What speech was I referring to?

And that is NOT the only thing(wink)
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Then lay out your plan. Dont be coy. How do we change the citizenry?



This is your chance
 
vegas giants said:
And your plan is to have kids memorize speeches



Priceless
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And your plan
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And Vegas's plan is just to throw more money at the problem

Yep, everything will be fine with Education paying more money to teachers(Rolling eyes)
 
Luther said:
And Vegas's plan is just to throw more money at the problem

Yep, thieving will be fine with Education paying more money to teachers(Rolling eyesa)
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Really? Cite where I said that was my plan. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Then lay out your plan. Dont be coy. How do we change the citizenry?



This is your chance
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How do we change the citizenry?
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Simply stop what we're doing(Not working)

Bringing it all to a halt and REFORM it(imagine that)
 
vegas giants said:
Really? Cite where I said that was my plan. Lol
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Well, that's the typical Lib/Moderates who fall for libs thinking plan

Just going with the odds(wink)
 
Luther said:
Simply stop what we're doing(Not working)

Bringing it all to a halt and REFORM it(imagine that)
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You had your chance to lay it all out.


And blew it.


Dismissed
 
vegas giants said:
So you are lying. Got it
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No, true story(wink)

Most of our weak citizenry fall for the old "give teachers a raise" bit

Here's your chance, are you one?
 
Luther said:
No, true story(wink)

Most of our weak citizenry fall for the old "give teachers a raise" bit

Here's your chance, are you one?
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You are not ready grasshopper.


Hahahahaha
 
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