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Manifesto of the Communist Party (K. Marx/F. Engels) with english subtitles. Video

marke said:
Real Christians are those who have repented of their sins and have been forgiven and cleansed by God. Hitler was never a real Christian, nor murderous and/or sexually perverted priests, in spite of atheist confusion to the contrary.
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Just for information, how big is % of Real christians among Fake ones?
 
marke said:
Only God knows.
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Real christians have to be communists:

Us Ambassador to the USSR in 1937-39 Joseph Davis on communism and Nazism and their fundamental difference

"(July 7, 1941) My friend Lindbergh surprised me by saying that he preferred nazism to communism. In general, making such a choice is a desperate business, but the difference between these two subjects is too great. Both Germany and Russia are totalitarian States. Both are realistic. Both of them use strict and ruthless methods. However, there is one significant difference that can be shown as follows.
If Marx, Lenin, or Stalin were Christian believers, and if one tried to place the communist experiment performed in Russia within the framework of the dogmas of the catholic or protestant church, the result would be declared the greatest achievement of christianity in the entire history of mankind in its quest for humanity and the implementation of christian precepts in the life of society. The fact is that the Christian religion can be combined with Communist principles without committing much violence to its economic and political goals, the main of which is the "brotherhood of all people".
If we conduct a similar test with regard to nazism, we will find that it is impossible to combine the two ideologies. The principle of Christian ideology cannot be imposed on the nazi philosophy without destroying the political basis of the state. The fascist philosophy creates a state that is actually based on the rejection of the altruistic principles of Christianity. For the nazis, love, charity, justice, and Christian values are only manifestations of weakness and decay if they contradict the needs of the state.
This is the whole difference - the Communist Soviet state can act with christianity as the basis for achieving the ultimate goal - the universal brotherhood of people. The Communists allow the state to die out as man improves, whereas the nazi ideal is just the opposite - the state is above all else."
 
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Ringo Stalin said:
Real christians have to be communists:

Us Ambassador to the USSR in 1937-39 Joseph Davis on communism and Nazism and their fundamental difference

"(July 7, 1941) My friend Lindbergh surprised me by saying that he preferred nazism to communism. In general, making such a choice is a desperate business, but the difference between these two subjects is too great. Both Germany and Russia are totalitarian States. Both are realistic. Both of them use strict and ruthless methods. However, there is one significant difference that can be shown as follows.
If Marx, Lenin, or Stalin were Christian believers, and if one tried to place the communist experiment performed in Russia within the framework of the dogmas of the catholic or protestant church, the result would be declared the greatest achievement of christianity in the entire history of mankind in its quest for humanity and the implementation of christian precepts in the life of society. The fact is that the Christian religion can be combined with Communist principles without committing much violence to its economic and political goals, the main of which is the "brotherhood of all people".
If we conduct a similar test with regard to nazism, we will find that it is impossible to combine the two ideologies. The principle of Christian ideology cannot be imposed on the nazi philosophy without destroying the political basis of the state. The fascist philosophy creates a state that is actually based on the rejection of the altruistic principles of Christianity. For the nazis, love, charity, justice, and Christian values are only manifestations of weakness and decay if they contradict the needs of the state.
This is the whole difference - the Communist Soviet state can act with christianity as the basis for achieving the ultimate goal - the universal brotherhood of people. The Communists allow the state to die out as man improves, whereas the nazi ideal is just the opposite - the state is above all else."
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Thank God America's founders were not communism supporting idiots.
 
The ignorance of americans about the manifesto, communism and marx never ceases to amaze me.

Right from the start you all demonstrate just how uneducated you all are when you harp on about russia. As if the manifesto was written for them. Pathetic. learn about the ****ing history and you will not end up looking so foolish.

The 1848 Revolutions: the hoped-for prelude to the proletarian revolution
"The year 1848 is turning out well", wrote Engels. "By this glorious revolution the French proletariat has again placed itself at the head of the European movement. All honour to the workers of Paris!" That revolution spread across the whole of Europe, marking an important development in the class struggle.
"A spectre is haunting Europe - the spectre of Communism", wrote Marx and Engels in the opening passage of the Communist Manifesto. "All powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police spies." Prophetically, on the day of the Manifesto's publication in London, Europe was ablaze with revolution.

King Louis-Phillipe of France abdicated immediately. Guizot the French Prime Minister was dismissed and Prince Metternich of Austria fell within a few weeks. Marx and Engels hoped that the revolution would only serve as "the immediate prelude to the proletarian revolution." They immediately hailed the revolution which first broke out in France on 24th February 1848.
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Not only did Marx and Engels fight for national independence for the oppressed nationalities, but put forward a genuinely internationalist approach. There were other nations oppressed by reactionary German states, such as the Poles in Prussia, the Italians, Czechs and others in Austria, as well as Russian Tsarism. At this time Tsarism was the most counter-revolutionary force in Europe in the same way that American imperialism is on a world stage today.

Marx and Engels sharply criticized the cowardly bourgeois leaders for failing to support the struggles of oppressed nations such as the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and Italians against Prussian and Austrian despotism.
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All of europe was undergoing revolutions by the proletariat against the bourgeoisie and marx wrote for them all.

Revolution broke out in Germany on 18th March with fighting in nearly every town and barricades erected in Berlin and Vienna. The people won a series of democratic rights but control passed into the hands of the big bourgeoisie, which quickly betrayed the struggle.
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Do yourselves a favour and actually try and learn instead of parroting the same old capitalist propaganda that americans were trained to spew out because learning to think is too hard.
 
Ringo Stalin said:
If anyone was happy to work with Hitler, it was the famous appeasers in England and France. Without them, Hitler would never have been able to start a war. Your historical ignorance allows you not to know about the Munich betrayal of Czechoslovakia and the "Phoney war", but the bourgeois propagandists of the Cold war are shouting about the non-aggression Pact with Germany, which the USSR was forced to conclude, since all its attempts to attract future allies to action against Hitler failed. Too much these scoundrels dreamed of sending Hitler against the USSR. And in response, they got hit in the teeth by Hitler. You probably don't know that almost all European States had a non-aggression Treaty with Hitler. The USSR was the last in this chain.
And you "millions upon millions" only one thing proves that you are so brainwashed, that you are ready to believe anything, for example, that the marriage of a man and a man is normal... Once you believe in a biologically abnormal thing, they can put any lie in your head and you will swallow it without thinking.[/QUOTE]

I cant take you seriously after this reactionary hogwash. Homosexuality has existed in nature and human civilization eons before the abrahamic dare i say shibboleths came to be. Also your comparison to the bomb delivery that was supposed to kill hitler isnt even apt considering he was slaughtering his own party loyalists before the war.
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soylentgreen said:
The ignorance of americans about the manifesto, communism and marx never ceases to amaze me.

Right from the start you all demonstrate just how uneducated you all are when you harp on about russia. As if the manifesto was written for them. Pathetic. learn about the ****ing history and you will not end up looking so foolish.

The 1848 Revolutions: the hoped-for prelude to the proletarian revolution



All of europe was undergoing revolutions by the proletariat against the bourgeoisie and marx wrote for them all.



Do yourselves a favour and actually try and learn instead of parroting the same old capitalist propaganda that americans were trained to spew out because learning to think is too hard.
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Who do you think doesn't know this? I haven't seen a comment on this thread that suggests Marx wrote the manifesto during a later time period. Everyone knows about the European Revolutions and failed revolutions of 1848.
 
Ringo Stalin said:
Just for information, how big is % of Real christians among Fake ones?
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By the way, what is this absurd avatar you have? Stalin striking Hitler! :lamo I can tell you're not ignorant of history. You know that Stalin betrayed the proud communist party by partnering with fascist Hitler, and together they took Poland. Stalin was terrified of Hitler and Nazi Germany, and knew that in a war that only involved the two countries Russia and Germany, the Nazis would have obliterated Soviet Russia.
 
truthatallcost said:
Stalin was terrified of Hitler and Nazi Germany, and knew that in a war that only involved the two countries Russia and Germany, the Nazis would have obliterated Soviet Russia.
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Conquest of the Soviet Union was beyond the capacity of Nazi Germany unless radical changes are made to the way Nazi Germany operated.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Conquest of the Soviet Union was beyond the capacity of Nazi Germany unless radical changes are made to the way Nazi Germany operated.
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Stalin was terrified of Nazi Germany, after Russia's embarrassing attempt to invade and take over Finland, and then Germany's swift conquering of several countries in succession. Stalin thought Germany would be bogged down for many months, if not years fighting France, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, and Norway. It didn't go as planned for Josef.

Again, in a head-to-head war, with no support from Britain, Russia loses to Nazi Germany.
 
truthatallcost said:
Who do you think doesn't know this? I haven't seen a comment on this thread that suggests Marx wrote the manifesto during a later time period. Everyone knows about the European Revolutions and failed revolutions of 1848.
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Bull**** I see no evidence of that yet we can all see that these posts turn only to the russian revolution. I doubt anyone of these posters had a clue what was happening in europe at the time.
 
truthatallcost said:
Stalin was terrified of Nazi Germany,
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True.

Again, in a head-to-head war, with no support from Britain, Russia loses to Nazi Germany.
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Not true. British support for the USSR was not the corner stone of Soviet victory over the Third Reich. The reasons the Nazis lost would remain largely the same even with Britain out of the picture.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
True.



Not true. British support for the USSR was not the corner stone of Soviet victory over the Third Reich. The reasons the Nazis lost would remain largely the same even with Britain out of the picture.
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This is misleading,considering the bulk of German military were tied up fighting on the western front by the time Germany launched Barbarossa. They were fighting the British, who themselves were being propped up by the U.S. giving the British much needed war materials at a discount. Had Britain not entered the conflict, and committed itself to war, Germany would have brought to bare the full power of its superior military against Russia, and deposed Stalin eventually.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
True.



Not true. British support for the USSR was not the corner stone of Soviet victory over the Third Reich. The reasons the Nazis lost would remain largely the same even with Britain out of the picture.
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During the invasion of Barbarossa, German forces killed Russians at a rate of 5x the casualties that Russia managed. Half of Germany's military remained on the western front during Barbarossa.
 
Ringo Stalin said:
I know that Hitler is your guy, an extreme conservative capitalist - he didn't like big banks, he liked small-scale private production... The perfect capitalist! Of course, when he comes to power, like any "conservative" capitalist, he throws away all this propaganda husk and serves the interests of large capital. So, the fact that Hitler is closer to you than Stalin, shows your essence: "Rub any capitalist - you will find a fascist." The danger of the epidemic is only in the future, but in Europe, the germs of fascism are already green, with a choice of who to live and who to die. So far, these are elderly people, then later it will come to the mentally ill and others who worsen the "healthy gene pool of the nation".
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Haha, how did Communist China deal with coronavirus? The same way Stalin dealt with the famine in Ukraine - burn the bodies, shoot whistleblowers, lie about what happened, expect the sympathetic western media and academia to protect the lies and cover up.
 
truthatallcost said:
By the way, what is this absurd avatar you have? Stalin striking Hitler! :lamo I can tell you're not ignorant of history. You know that Stalin betrayed the proud communist party by partnering with fascist Hitler, and together they took Poland. Stalin was terrified of Hitler and Nazi Germany, and knew that in a war that only involved the two countries Russia and Germany, the Nazis would have obliterated Soviet Russia.
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A set of revisionist nonsense. Inexcusable in the Internet age.
 
truthatallcost said:
During the invasion of Barbarossa, German forces killed Russians at a rate of 5x the casualties that Russia managed.
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And? War is not a measure of who can kill the most people.

At the end of Barbarossa it was the Germans who had suffered irrecoverable losses; they had just 321,000 men in reserve and their casualties had exceeded that in August.
 
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truthatallcost said:
This is misleading,considering the bulk of German military were tied up fighting on the western front by the time Germany launched Barbarossa. They were fighting the British, who themselves were being propped up by the U.S. giving the British much needed war materials at a discount.
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I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, because it's not true; the vast majority of German combat power was allocated East, including nearly 70% of the Luftwaffe. The only major component that was not dedicated to the invasion was the Kriegsmarine.

Specifically, of German divisions allocated to each front, there were 145 Divisions in the East, just 4 in Germany, 40 in the west, 7 in Norway, 4 in Finland, 7 in the Balkans, and 2 in Africa.

Had Britain not entered the conflict, and committed itself to war, Germany would have brought to bare the full power of its superior military against Russia, and deposed Stalin eventually.
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Adding more troops to the invasion makes things worse, not easier; Barbarossa failed because the German logistical system could not sustain the massive invasion force. Adding more troops only burdens that already overextended supply line.
 
truthatallcost said:
This is misleading,considering the bulk of German military were tied up fighting on the western front by the time Germany launched Barbarossa. They were fighting the British, who themselves were being propped up by the U.S. giving the British much needed war materials at a discount. Had Britain not entered the conflict, and committed itself to war, Germany would have brought to bare the full power of its superior military against Russia, and deposed Stalin eventually.
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By the time Barbarossa was launched, there wasn't any significant fighting going on in the West.

That was to come again later.

truthatallcost said:
During the invasion of Barbarossa, German forces killed Russians at a rate of 5x the casualties that Russia managed. Half of Germany's military remained on the western front during Barbarossa.
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Salient point being that Germany could not kill enough. Some even put the casualty rate at 1:7 (German:Russian) but not even that sufficed to subdue the Soviets.

As the saying goes, the Soviets won Stalingrad by "drowning the enemy in the blood of Soviet soldiers", thus effectively dealing a blow from which "the Reich" never recovered.

And it wasn't half of Germany's military deployed to the West at the time, it was slightly more than a third. Primarily to keep France occupied but also (in lesser numbers) Norway, the Balkans and Italy (in alliance with Italy til Mussolini's downfall).
 
Jredbaron96 said:
~................Adding more troops to the invasion makes things worse, not easier; Barbarossa failed because the German logistical system could not sustain the massive invasion force. Adding more troops only burdens that already overextended supply line.
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and one can add to that how Germany was chronically under-equipped from the outset for any lengthy campaign in a territory of that size. That's why Hitler banked on a Blitzkrieg as in France.

Gross miscalculation.
 
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