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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    "People of color are less likely to go into teaching and less likely to stay in it. Education requirements, low pay, unhappy workplaces and lack of respect all can contribute. The result: At every step on the road from high school student to classroom teacher, people of color fall away."

    Schools arent what they used to be. Neither are families. Before...if little Johnny was screwing up at school you call Johnny's parents and they deal with little Johnny. Now...if little Johnny is screwing up in class the parents rail on the teacher for failing the student. Bad grades used to be Johnny's faulty. Today its the teachers fault. Kids used to be taught personal discipline in the homes...today, parents have abandoned their roles to the schools. I work with a lot of teachers...and pretty much their experience is the same at varying degrees...and many of them are just wishing they could be educators, not case workers at juvenile holding facilities.

    The exception to this is charter schools. Charter schools don't deal with the same problems for the most part. Which isn't to say we should get rid of public schools...but rather public schools should change their models. Get rid of the no child left behind mindset. Little Johnny doesn't want to be there...kick his ass out of class and the school. Kid doesn't turn in his homework, give him or her the failing grade they deserve...don't give them til the end of the semester to play catch up. Kids are disruptive with classmates or teachers...buh bye. Kid gives the teacher any kind of attitude...they can continue their discussion with the dean or principal and if they don't adjust their attitudes...buh bye.

    You cant solve the problem by throwing more money at the schools and increasing the actions and behaviors that drive potential teaching candidates away. You cant attract a more diverse body of educators if they anticipate their experience as teachers will be the same as their experience as students.

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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    That is a no-brainer.

    Here in Los Angeles, for example, the police department is no longer majority Caucasian.

    In the coming decades, ALL professions (including teaching) will perforce be dominated by Latinx and then African Americans. (Caucasians will be the third largest group followed by Asians.)

    Problem solved!
    The article stated that racially diverse teachers are already leaving or not selecting the field. Its not because they dont have the opportunities to teach...its because they dont want to go back into an education system as teachers that mirrors the ones they grew up in.

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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    There is no evidence to support that claim.
    Sure there is:

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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    That is a no-brainer.

    Here in Los Angeles, for example, the police department is no longer majority Caucasian.

    In the coming decades, ALL professions (including teaching) will perforce be dominated by Latinx and then African Americans. (Caucasians will be the third largest group followed by Asians.)

    Problem solved!
    We've already lowered testing standards to accommodate minority students. Now California is considering doing the same for teachers:

    Nearly half of California’s potential teachers struggle to pass a gauntlet of standardized tests required for them to earn a credential, making it more difficult for the state to put a dent in a persistent teacher shortage. But that could change soon, as officials at the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing look to reform the entire landscape of tests that teachers have to take to enter the profession.

    While the issue of student testing has always received considerable attention, the tests prospective teachers in California must take have received far less.


    Required tests roadblock for many aspiring California teachers | EdSource

    Putting diversity as a requirement above all else is a race to the bottom scenario. The students aren't fairing well, we can't find qualified teachers, but hey, California is 37% white and that number will continue to shrink, which is all that matters.
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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Why do you need a bachelors to teach basic education? Thats probably a problem, too much expense required to get and keep a job that doesn't pay enough to justify the expenditure and time.
    You think an A.A. degree should suffice?
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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by Luther View Post
    Does lumping together rural America's schools and Urban schools make any sense here?
    They don't care about rural America.
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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Because colleges require you to take a crap ton of course which will never be of use to you, just so they can get more money. I took a philosophy of art class which actually satisfied two of my graduation requirements, but in no way had anything to do what my job has been for well over a decade (teacher).

    Teachers need training. Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. But they need teacher training, not Philosophy of Art to become a math teacher.
    You hit the nail on the head here.

    Quality of education doesn't start with schools or teachers. It starts with parents/guardians. It is highly unlikely any teacher, no matter how good he/she is, can reach an unmotivated student with parents who either don't care or actively undermine the school/teacher.

    The problem with public education isn't the schools/teachers (though there some bad ones out there, there are also many good ones...just like in any profession), it is with a society that constantly undervalues the importance of education.
    It does if you're trying to stir up racial animosity, which describes nearly all of this OP's threads.
    I'm simply relaying the WaPo article, and offering my opinion + any pertinent information I have at my disposal. If people like Lauren Meckler and Kate Rabinowitz weren't constantly finding things to demonize as 'too white', I wouldn't start OP's about them. And isn't it curious that Meckler & Rabinowitz' lengthy article never once mentioned Asian students. That's probably due to the fact that Asian students don't make excuses for their grades, and don't demand that they be taught by teachers who look like them. Asian students outperform every other racial or ethnic category as well, including whites, Latinos and blacks. They're the minority that liberals wish to forget, because Asians disprove all the bs theories about minorities not being capable of academic success in a Caucasian dominated country.
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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I'm simply relaying the WaPo article, and offering my opinion + any pertinent information I have at my disposal. If people like Lauren Meckler and Kate Rabinowitz weren't constantly finding things to demonize as 'too white', I wouldn't start OP's about them. And isn't it curious that Meckler & Rabinowitz' lengthy article never once mentioned Asian students. That's probably due to the fact that Asian students don't make excuses for their grades, and don't demand that they be taught by teachers who look like them. Asian students outperform every other racial or ethnic category as well, including whites, Latinos and blacks. They're the minority that liberals wish to forget, because Asians disprove all the bs theories about minorities not being capable of academic success in a Caucasian dominated country.
    The only person that seems to care is you.


    See also the reason twump cultists need to play little “hypocrisy” games is they know they are in deep **** so the only way they can pull off any victory is by trying to make their opponents look just as bad as they are. Its the never play defense tactic

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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    The only person that seems to care is you.
    Go back to worrying about Star Wars. Grown up conversation isn't for you.
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    Re: America’s Schools are More Diverse Than Ever, But the Teachers are Still Mostly White

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I'm simply relaying the WaPo article


    Okay.

    There are a lot of articles on WaPo...how come you picked this race related one?

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