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how south carolina is spending its education money

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This new $134 million dollar school was funded through a referendum that voters approved in 2016.The 413 thousand square foot facility is a modern school that features the latest in technology and student amenities. The school itself is built on a 200 acre lot, has a 1,000 seat performing arts theatre, a 2,500 seat basketball arena, and an 8,500 seat stadium.
The athletic facilities feature multiple practice fields and field houses, a track and soccer stadium, a Physical Education gymnasium, a cheerleader gymnasium, wrestling complex, and a state-of-the-art training room.
The weight room can lift over 120 players at a single time and the coaching offices feature multiple meeting rooms, office space, and classrooms.

South Carolina’s graduating class of 2018 came close to dead-last in the nation on the ACT college readiness test, painting a grim picture of a state that has languished near the bottom of education rankings for decades.This year’s graduates placed 50th among the states and Washington, D.C., on the ACT, according to composite scores based on the test’s English, Reading, Math and Science sections.
Only Nevada’s students did worse.

... In practical terms, the new test results show that despite high school graduation rates that inch upward year after year, most South Carolina students finish high school unprepared to succeed at a four-year college.Statewide, 42 percent of graduating students met the ACT’s college readiness benchmark for English, along with 30 percent for Reading, 24 percent for Math and 20 percent for Science.
Only 14 percent were ready for college in every subject area, despite 63 percent saying on an ACT survey that they aspired to earn a bachelor’s or graduate degree.

... Only 5 percent of African-American students, 16 percent of Hispanic or Latino students, and 33 percent of white students met three or more of the benchmarks for college readiness.
South Carolina students bomb the ACT, falling behind Mississippi | News | postandcourier.com

14% of high school GRADUATES are college ready. recognize that 22% of the student population does not graduate high school

and yet, look at how south carolina is spending its limited education resources on ****ing sports complexes
 
But why focus on grades when you can have Jerseys?
 
But why focus on grades when you can have Jerseys?

so what only 5% of the black student population is college ready, let's build a high school with a gym for cheerleaders
 
So long as HS graduation rates remain high (inflated?) then there is no lack of self esteem. If the SC taxpayers (voters?) feel the need for improved HS sports facilities then they should be able to have them.
 
South Carolina students bomb the ACT, falling behind Mississippi | News | postandcourier.com

14% of high school GRADUATES are college ready. recognize that 22% of the student population does not graduate high school

and yet, look at how south carolina is spending its limited education resources on ****ing sports complexes

Success in education is directly tied to parental involvement. Middle class to poor, too many parents are enjoying a hedonistic life without enjoying parenting, and expecting the schools to do the heavy lifting.

Many in the upper classes engage in “competitive child rearing”, IOW, their child’s success in school is directly tied to their social rank among their peers. Constant activities keep them busy with like minded children. They have little time to get in trouble. Birthday parties, etc. get winnowed down on the march toward college. College? Yes. It is a step it is assumed they will take.
 
South Carolina students bomb the ACT, falling behind Mississippi | News | postandcourier.com

14% of high school GRADUATES are college ready. recognize that 22% of the student population does not graduate high school

and yet, look at how south carolina is spending its limited education resources on ****ing sports complexes

Note your OP first sentence:

This new $134 million dollar school was funded through a referendum that voters approved in 2016.

Huge new complexes and poor education results are only slightly related.

Both need fixing, but conducting classes in facilities costing that half that will not increase the education outcome results.
 
South Carolina students bomb the ACT, falling behind Mississippi | News | postandcourier.com

14% of high school GRADUATES are college ready. recognize that 22% of the student population does not graduate high school

and yet, look at how south carolina is spending its limited education resources on ****ing sports complexes

Yes they need to work on grades, but the physical facilities at schools often are broader community anchors for athletic leagues, recreation programs, arts organizations, etc. Spartanburg has a population of less than 40K so I imagine the need for much of this was seen as much needed facilities for community access as much as coddling the kiddies.
 
Success in education is directly tied to parental involvement. Middle class to poor, too many parents are enjoying a hedonistic life without enjoying parenting, and expecting the schools to do the heavy lifting.

Many in the upper classes engage in “competitive child rearing”, IOW, their child’s success in school is directly tied to their social rank among their peers. Constant activities keep them busy with like minded children. They have little time to get in trouble. Birthday parties, etc. get winnowed down on the march toward college. College? Yes. It is a step it is assumed they will take.


We don’t see eye to eye on much, but the bolded is spot on!
 
Yes they need to work on grades, but the physical facilities at schools often are broader community anchors for athletic leagues, recreation programs, arts organizations, etc. Spartanburg has a population of less than 40K so I imagine the need for much of this was seen as much needed facilities for community access as much as coddling the kiddies.
it's a matter of spending priorities
5% of black students (those remaining after 22% of all students drop out) are ready to experience success in a four year college
yet the state of south carolina is spending its limited education budget on things like a gym dedicated to cheerleading?
how the **** is cheerleading advancing those kids' educations?!
 
it's a matter of spending priorities
5% of black students (those remaining after 22% of all students drop out) are ready to experience success in a four year college
yet the state of south carolina is spending its limited education budget on things like a gym dedicated to cheerleading?
how the **** is cheerleading advancing those kids' educations?!

Sports generally require pass to play requirements to motivate students and sports, including the sport of cheerleading, can provide scholarships. I do not distinguish between race when it comes to opportunities to do well or fail based on individual decisions.
 
Sports generally require pass to play requirements to motivate students and sports, including the sport of cheerleading, can provide scholarships.
as i wrote in my earlier post, it's a matter of spending priorities. when classroom teachers are spending hundreds of dollars each year out of their own pockets to provide essential items the school system does not provide while the athletic department spends a million dollars on an artificial field so that their players are not tackled on natural turf, that is an allocation-of-spending issue
everybody who thinks cheerleading is a net revenue generator in our nation's economy, raise your hand

I do not distinguish between race when it comes to opportunities to do well or fail based on individual decisions.
ignoring racial disparity is a convenient way to also then ignore doing the things needed to close the disparity gap
when only five percent of black high school graduates are educated to the point to expect success in four-year colleges, that seems to be a more prominent issue that whether sally gets to learn cheerleading in a special cheerleading gym. 14% latinos and 33% whites being college ready is nothing to boast about but then compare the 5% of blacks being college ready and see the school system spending its money on a cheerleading gym? excuse me
 
as i wrote in my earlier post, it's a matter of spending priorities. when classroom teachers are spending hundreds of dollars each year out of their own pockets to provide essential items the school system does not provide while the athletic department spends a million dollars on an artificial field so that their players are not tackled on natural turf, that is an allocation-of-spending issue
everybody who thinks cheerleading is a net revenue generator in our nation's economy, raise your hand


ignoring racial disparity is a convenient way to also then ignore doing the things needed to close the disparity gap
when only five percent of black high school graduates are educated to the point to expect success in four-year colleges, that seems to be a more prominent issue that whether sally gets to learn cheerleading in a special cheerleading gym. 14% latinos and 33% whites being college ready is nothing to boast about but then compare the 5% of blacks being college ready and see the school system spending its money on a cheerleading gym? excuse me

There is no excuse for you. That astroturf field will be wonderful for the local Special Olympians. Why are disabled children less worthy of money being spent on them than black children to you? For that matter, athletics have sent more people, black, white, and other to college than hand sanitizer the poor downtrodden teacher pays for out of pocket to keep from catching something from those unclean South Carolina children.
 
There is no excuse for you.
actually, there is no excuse for ignoring the racial disparity among children succeeding in school
that disparity, that lack of opportunity, was ignored during the days of jim crow and our nation - especially its minorities - are still paying for it

That astroturf field will be wonderful for the local Special Olympians.
those kids are just happy to be able to play like non-disabled children. no matter whether they were playing on artificial turf or natural turf. the key for them is being treated just like non-disabled athletes
i know this because i volunteer to officiate their games every year. and the reason i volunteer? well, it's because the state that builds these expensive facilities can't come up with the funds to pay officials to officiate the special olympics games. despite that we officials are paid to officiate non-disabled athletic events. again, a matter of spending priorities at work

Why are disabled children less worthy of money being spent on them than black children to you?
no one has made that point - except you. look at my comment immediately above

For that matter, athletics have sent more people, black, white, and other to college than hand sanitizer the poor downtrodden teacher pays for out of pocket to keep from catching something from those unclean South Carolina children.
you present that as if the athletes would not be eligible for the same athletic scholarships if they did not play on state-of-the-art facilities
it's the student, not the facility that get the scholarship. stunned that i even needed to explain that reality
 
actually, there is no excuse for ignoring the racial disparity among children succeeding in school
that disparity, that lack of opportunity, was ignored during the days of jim crow and our nation - especially its minorities - are still paying for it


those kids are just happy to be able to play like non-disabled children. no matter whether they were playing on artificial turf or natural turf. the key for them is being treated just like non-disabled athletes
i know this because i volunteer to officiate their games every year. and the reason i volunteer? well, it's because the state that builds these expensive facilities can't come up with the funds to pay officials to officiate the special olympics games. despite that we officials are paid to officiate non-disabled athletic events. again, a matter of spending priorities at work


no one has made that point - except you. look at my comment immediately above


you present that as if the athletes would not be eligible for the same athletic scholarships if they did not play on state-of-the-art facilities
it's the student, not the facility that get the scholarship. stunned that i even needed to explain that reality

You are acting like they spent $134 million on the football program. That was the cost of the entire new school. The stadium cost $8.6M which was about 6.5% of the budget. That $8.6M is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of other stadiums being built in South Carolina and isn't even in the same league as what some schools in Texas have spent. As for special olympics, it is a non-governmental organization so the government has no duty to pay for its staff for its events but does have a duty to pay its own employees who officiate school athletics.
 
You are acting like they spent $134 million on the football program. That was the cost of the entire new school. The stadium cost $8.6M which was about 6.5% of the budget. That $8.6M is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of other stadiums being built in South Carolina and isn't even in the same league as what some schools in Texas have spent. As for special olympics, it is a non-governmental organization so the government has no duty to pay for its staff for its events but does have a duty to pay its own employees who officiate school athletics.
then i ask you rthe same question that was earlier posted in this thread:
There is no excuse for you. That astroturf field will be wonderful for the local Special Olympians. Why are disabled children less worthy of money being spent on them than black children to you? For that matter, athletics have sent more people, black, white, and other to college than hand sanitizer the poor downtrodden teacher pays for out of pocket to keep from catching something from those unclean South Carolina children.
 
Success in education is directly tied to parental involvement. Middle class to poor, too many parents are enjoying a hedonistic life without enjoying parenting, and expecting the schools to do the heavy lifting.

Many in the upper classes engage in “competitive child rearing”, IOW, their child’s success in school is directly tied to their social rank among their peers. Constant activities keep them busy with like minded children. They have little time to get in trouble. Birthday parties, etc. get winnowed down on the march toward college. College? Yes. It is a step it is assumed they will take.

I do agree that the #1 factor in student success is parenting, but I don't agree with your critique of middle class parents. In many if not most middle class families both parents are working, which can impact how much time their parents can devote towards helping their kids with school. Also many middle class parents today are older than was the case years ago, which can impact the amount of motivation and energy they have for helping with schooling. Many of the poor parents the fact is they really don't care all that much and expect the system to raise their children for them.
 
SC funds public education? I though Bible school was the extent of education there. /s
 
You are acting like they spent $134 million on the football program. That was the cost of the entire new school. The stadium cost $8.6M which was about 6.5% of the budget. That $8.6M is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of other stadiums being built in South Carolina and isn't even in the same league as what some schools in Texas have spent. As for special olympics, it is a non-governmental organization so the government has no duty to pay for its staff for its events but does have a duty to pay its own employees who officiate school athletics.

And that is $8.6M too much, it is a high school, you don't need a ****ing stadium. Just because they are building stadiums for high schools elsewhere does not make it make any more sense.
 
And that is $8.6M too much, it is a high school, you don't need a ****ing stadium. Just because they are building stadiums for high schools elsewhere does not make it make any more sense.

That stadium will create opportunities for athletes, cheerleaders, band members in addition to the community at large. Boo the hell hoo in the real world scholarships are more important than Shakespeare and hand sanitizer.
 
That stadium will create opportunities for athletes, cheerleaders, band members in addition to the community at large. Boo the hell hoo in the real world scholarships are more important than Shakespeare and hand sanitizer.

All you need for that is a field and some chairs or a gym, not a stadium. That is what my high school had and that worked perfectly fine.
 
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