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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    You can believe whatever you like. I will believe the Bible. The truth will always be true and everyone will become acquainted with the truth in the end no matter what they choose to believe for now.
    You will believe what the bible says, as you understand it. That's two possibilities of being wrong. You and the Bible are fallible.
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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You will believe what the bible says, as you understand it. That's two possibilities of being wrong. You and the Bible are fallible.

    How many possibilities of error exist in 4 or 5 billion people with their own opinions?

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    How many possibilities of error exist in 4 or 5 billion people with their own opinions?
    Not all of them have the misplaced arrogance to claim to possess "The Truth".
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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Should public schools teach Roman Catholic priest Georges Lemaitre's creation theory in science classes?
    • Yes
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    • I don't know
    • Schools should teach the/a non-Catholic version of his theory.


    Personally, I would never cotton to a public school's teaching Creationism, but private schools can teach whatever they want, and they definitely should teach Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricula, and Christian one's should include it in their theology curricula.


    ETA:
    I was raised in the Episcopal faith, but Lemaitre's creation theory is good enough AFAIC.
    It's hilarious to see all the people voting no because they don't know what his theory was.

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    It's hilarious to see all the people voting no because they don't know what his theory was.
    Well, "hilarious" isn't the adjective I'd have chosen, but I won't object to "hilarious."


    I don't really know why folks chose the "no" option, but not knowing what Lemaitre's creation theory states is certainly among the reasonably plausible and probable causes for folks' doing so. That folks are unfamiliar with Lemaitre's theory is what it is, and, frankly, I'm not of a mind to chide someone for simply not knowing the man proposed. I find it extremely disconcerting and lamentable that, to the extent they don't (didn't when they answered) know what Lemaitre posited, they yet chose an answer other than "I don't know." For doing that I would indeed chide them, for there's truly no reason or justification for answering, in the affirmative or negative, an Internet discussion forum poll question one doesn't fully understand.

    As for the folks who answered "no" and did know what Lemaitre posited, I'd ask them the following questions:
    1 -- Why are you of the mind that the Big Bang Theory should not be taught in science classes?
    2 -- In what class(-es) do you think the Big Bang Theory should be taught?

    As I explained earlier in this thread, elements of the Big Bang Theory and/or the techniques and thought processes leading to and establishing its preponderant veracity were, when I attended middle and high school, taught not only in my science classes, but also in history and math classes. Perhaps a school may teach the Big Bang Theory as part of one of a non-science curricula, but doing so would be uncharacteristic and outside the scope of those disciplines.

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    How many possibilities of error exist in 4 or 5 billion people with their own opinions?
    First of all the "possibility" of a statement's being errant or not errant has to do with the nature of the statement itself and what is/was existential. How many people think/believe a given assertion is true/untrue has nothing to do with whether the statement is true/untrue. To think that the quantity of people who believe true/false a given assertion is to succumb to the logical-thought flaw, aka fallacy, of argumentum ad populum.

    All the believing in the world will not make true that which one (or many) believes. Similarly, all the disbelieving in the world will not make untrue that which one (or many) disbelieves.


    For any given assertion there is at least one "possibility" that said assertion is errant or true, or at least preponderantly errant or preponderantly true.
    • Binary truth/untruth --> The "possibility" is 1:2
    • Proportionally true/untrue --> The "possibility" is some ratio other than 1:2.

    In light of the number of assertions in the Bible, something on the order of ~30K, there is a lot of "possibility" for error, particularly since a good deal of what's asserted in the Bible is predicated on the statement "there is a god," an assertion that as yet has not been established as factually true, being a true statement.

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Should public schools teach Roman Catholic priest Georges Lemaitre's creation theory in science classes?
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    • No
    • I don't know
    • Schools should teach the/a non-Catholic version of his theory.


    Personally, I would never cotton to a public school's teaching Creationism, but private schools can teach whatever they want, and they definitely should teach Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricula, and Christian one's should include it in their theology curricula.


    ETA:
    I was raised in the Episcopal faith, but Lemaitre's creation theory is good enough AFAIC.
    I oppose teaching anything in a science class that doesn't have a strong scientific consensus that it is true and doesn't have strong scientific peer reviewed evidence. According to surveys, 97% of scientists support evolution and only 2% support creationism and there is virtually no creationist evidence that hasn't been refuted or passed the muster of peer review. If you want to teach theology-related scientific hypotheses that haven't gained a scientific consensus then I suggest teaching it in a separate philosophy, scientific speculation class, or theology class.

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    Re: Should schools teach Father Georges Lemaitre's creation theory as part of their science curricul

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    God teaches the truth about the creation of the universe and the formation of original life on earth. All contrary theories are wrong.
    In Your Opinion. Contrary opinions are available on demand and free of charge.

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