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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Many are able to get through a University in good standing learning pretty close to nothing of value...that is more my problem with the idea....

    We are going to reward Universities with yet more gobs of money to follow all of the other gobs of money when they provide so little value?

    MAYBE NOT!
    The OP post seem to cover expenses not related to education.
    "If a college student needs a junker car to get around in, he should have the money to do so. Or if he wants to buy some decent cloths or take a girl out on a date, he should have the money to do so."

    Smells of the entitled mentality. I am with you that some go to college and get a degree that is worthless or next to impossible to get a job in that field.
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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    The OP post seem to cover expenses not related to education.
    "If a college student needs a junker car to get around in, he should have the money to do so. Or if he wants to buy some decent cloths or take a girl out on a date, he should have the money to do so."

    Smells of the entitled mentality. I am with you that some go to college and get a degree that is worthless or next to impossible to get a job in that field.
    Oh and you know how that resonates with our crap youth, I just had and former employee millennial over at the house for multiple hours, she talked about this at some length.

    She also went on about how hard it is to find men who are worth a damn...Different subject I know....sort of....
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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by icandoit View Post
    Instead of having college students go into debt, we should go beyond what the other developed countries do. Which is make a college education free for those who want to go. But actually pay them to do so. For example, I have heard that there is a shortage of nurses in this country. Pay them a little more to be educated in that. Also, what do people expect college students to do. Do their studies and go to bed? If a college student needs a junker car to get around in, he should have the money to do so. Or if he wants to buy some decent cloths or take a girl out on a date, he should have the money to do so.

    Another thing is that something most people know is that if you want to get more work out of somebody, the best way to do it is to treat them well. Paying them to go to college would certainly do that.
    100% agree that they should have the money to do so. Amazingly enough they can have that right now without needing any new laws. They can ask their parents for it, or they could...and forgive me for suggesting something so preposterous....they could get a job.

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by icandoit View Post
    Instead of having college students go into debt, we should go beyond what the other developed countries do. Which is make a college education free for those who want to go. But actually pay them to do so.
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    This is already the case in America. Apply for Pell Grants & State Grants, one can go to Community College for free and receive a check in the mail. Community College has 20+ programs that lead to jobs in the $40,000-$70,000 range.

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    As I understand it, that is not, exactly, how it works in Germany. You get split up in 5th Grade and basically spend what we would consider Middle-High school on a "track" determined for you. If you are on the Academic Track (~30% of students), then you can go to college.

    IIRC a smaller percentage of German students go to college than American students, and the Germans don't get paid so much as they have free tuition.









    As far as the OP, though, what if I told you......









    you CAN get paid to go to college in America?
    I'm a Viet Nam era vet and I have benefited from some of those programs. They should be made stronger. That does not diminish the virtues of the german model. It works. And we are now trying it in Ga. A red state. Just because an idea comes from somewhere else doesn't make it bad.
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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by trblmkr View Post
    I'm a Viet Nam era vet and I have benefited from some of those programs. They should be made stronger. That does not diminish the virtues of the german model. It works. And we are now trying it in Ga. A red state. Just because an idea comes from somewhere else doesn't make it bad.
    I've heard of the lottery, and Hope Scholarships, etc., but not Georgia trying out the German model. Do you have a link?

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by xMathFanx View Post
    @icandoit

    This is already the case in America. Apply for Pell Grants & State Grants, one can go to Community College for free and receive a check in the mail. Community College has 20+ programs that lead to jobs in the $40,000-$70,000 range.
    Community college,aka trade school

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    If you are going to give me free college education and you are going to pay me to go to college too. I would have around twenty undergrads degrees.

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    Community college,aka trade school
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    Partially true. (A) Trades are very good (B) You can get training that most University graduates do not attain--for instance, Calc 1-3 + Diff. Eq., Classical Mechanics-Modern Physics, General Chemistry-Organic Chem 2, etc. etc.

    To be honest--most people are not going to University to get "educated". They are in it to receive a participation trophy.

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    Re: PAY Students To Go To College.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    As I understand it, that is not, exactly, how it works in Germany. You get split up in 5th Grade and basically spend what we would consider Middle-High school on a "track" determined for you. If you are on the Academic Track (~30% of students), then you can go to college.
    And the German system is not a very good construct for many who want liberty or those who are concerned about multi-generational poverty and minority status. This means there is a large cross-section between the Left and the Right that would more or less stand opposed to that system if it were to be proposed.

    In America, if you want to get paid to go to university, that route for civilians is largely reserved for the small number who enter graduate school.
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