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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Isn't one of the pervasive social complaints these days that "shaming" is a form of bullying?

    That said, I've always believed that encouraging education starts at home, with parents making sure their kids are motivated to do well in school.

    Schools are the resource. However, kids need to want to use that resource effectively and that comes from how their "village" (family, friends, community) raises them.

    IMO placing the whole burden (and hence any blame for failure) on school systems not only to teach, but to figure out how to motivate kids to want to learn is passing on responsibilities rightly belonging to family and their community.

    So I don't think this segregation during student's "free time" is a good idea. It will just cause more resentment in most students, who are already balls of conflicting fears and emotions as it is.
    It is only bullying if it is consistent, personal and negative.
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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Totally disagree. Not everyone has the same ability to learn. Just like not everyone will grow as much,or be the perfect weight. Should we segregate the kids based on height or weight? Should we shame the kid who has a 100 IQ?
    Over 90% of the population has an IQ around 100...
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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Interesting. I'm of two minds about this. On one hand I am pretty sure that this will not work for all students. It's essentially an "embarrass" them into submission type of program, which quite frankly never worked for me personally. On the other hand it probably would work for other students. I've never been fond of "one size fits all" type of mantra which this essentially is. I would prefer a more diverse education program.
    I'm not of the mindset that people who are already having trouble should be made to suffer more than they already are.

    "The flogging will continue until morale improves," just doesn't seem like the best strategy.

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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    This concept sounds incredibly short sighted. Much of what is being done is kids that come from supportive homes are being segregated from those coming from less supportive homes. Nothing like kicking someone when they are already down. Wonder who thought this one up?

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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    This concept sounds incredibly short sighted. Much of what is being done is kids that come from supportive homes are being segregated from those coming from less supportive homes. Nothing like kicking someone when they are already down. Wonder who thought this one up?
    We have a rule not allowed to eat in class... hurts kids from poor families. Often these kids have no breakfast or breakfast is a small bag of potato chips and an energy drink. I said kids can eat in class if it is healthy. Surprising how many buy an apple instead of chips. Instead of kids trying to sneak chips kids are openly asking if they can eat fruit or their sandwich.
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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Besides shaming some students, it also engenders elitism.

    I don't support a policy such as this.


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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    I know, schools don't ostracize kids enough, let's get the school administrators to do it in front of the majority of the student body.

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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    I had that in the 8th grade. All the kids bad in math sat in the front row so I was stuck in the front row. It did nothing besides make me feel embarrassed and resentful.

    At that age, I just wasn't interested enough in math to apply myself and the shaming attempt did not change that.

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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Over 90% of the population has an IQ around 100...
    Uh no...

    Average IQ varies by demographic. The white population averages 100.

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    Re: Students segregated at lunch based on grades, attendance

    Quote Originally Posted by worksforpigs View Post
    Uh no...

    Average IQ varies by demographic. The white population averages 100.


    https://www.statisticbrain.com/count...st-average-iq/

    They get the aggregate by taking in all demographics. Average USA IQ is 98. The statistical variance for the nation sits with more than 90% between 90-110.
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