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White privilege bolstered by teaching math, university professor says

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White privilege bolstered by teaching math, university professor says Fox News

curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans

Questioning, did Rochelle Gutierrez actually write this?

Building Support for Scholarly Practices in Mathematics Methods

Yes, she did. But reading further she's not recommending changing the curriculum. She is suggesting teachers be aware of the this reality.

Easier source to copy and paste:
Why (Urban) Mathematics Teachers Need Political Knowledge

...
Union High, for example, was a Chicago school with 87% of students qualifying
for free or reduced-price meals, but where 45% of the senior class was taking
calculus; however, its gains in students mathematical understanding and percentages
of seniors taking calculus were derailed by district politics and a back-tobasics
movement ...Even though teachers
were successful at making mathematics meaningful to students, getting students
to take large numbers of mathematics courses (especially advanced courses), and
to develop robust mathematical identities, administrators were intent on getting
teachers to focus on test scores to the exclusion of all other efforts.
...Some political
knowledge extended teachers’ efforts for a few years.
...
Eventually, fed up with the politics and stripped of their professional
judgment, several teachers left the school.
...
 
White privilege bolstered by teaching math, university professor says Fox News



Questioning, did Rochelle Gutierrez actually write this?

Building Support for Scholarly Practices in Mathematics Methods

Yes, she did. But reading further she's not recommending changing the curriculum. She is suggesting teachers be aware of the this reality.

Easier source to copy and paste:
Why (Urban) Mathematics Teachers Need Political Knowledge

So why does it matter if the Pathagorean Theorem was developed by the Greeks again?
 
I wish I had that white privilege she's talking about. I suck at math.
 
So why does it matter if the Pythagorean Theorem was developed by the Greeks again?

Math history is part of the curriculum. It's informative to know how math developed.
If only to know why it's named after him.
 
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Math history is part of the curriculum. It's informative to know how math developed.
If only to know why it's named after him.

But actually, it seems, the professor prefers to have no Math History at all.... because the damn Europeans infected the names with whiteness!!
 
But actually, it seems, the professor prefers to have no Math History at all.... because the damn Europeans infected the names with whiteness!!

That's what one might think if one just read the Fox News article. I provided links to the professors writing, which neither Fox nor Campus Watch did.
 
The professor also disagree's that some people are better at math than others???

And that Math shouldn't be a standard for objectivity????

"Is there something inherent in mathematics as a discipline and human activity that merits higher prestige and higher paychecks?" YES!!!!!! lol

what a utter moron...
 
That's what one might think if one just read the Fox News article. I provided links to the professors writing, which neither Fox nor Campus Watch did.

Oh I read the first couple of pages you referenced.... and that is exactly what she meant.... she actually was worse, she isn't trying to attack the validity or affects of the names.... but she is questioning the validity of Mathematics itself as a objective means to analyze the world because apparently the only reason people think so is because White people invented Math and infected it with political whiteness.


I would make a wager that she is bad at math lol
 
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The professor also disagree's that some people are better at math than others???

And that Math shouldn't be a standard for objectivity????

"Is there something inherent in mathematics as a discipline and human activity that merits higher prestige and higher paychecks?" YES!!!!!! lol

what a utter moron...

If one looks at the context , she's talking about math education researchers getting paid more than other education researchers
 
If one looks at the context , she's talking about math education researchers getting paid more than other education researchers

As they should... it's a more difficult discipline that has more scarcity in supply... and it arguably has much more real world applications, not always of course...

Mathematics is a significantly more difficult discipline than Sociology/woman studies/Humanities
 
Oh I read the first couple of pages you referenced.... and that is exactly what she meant.... she actually was worse, she isn't trying to attack the validity or affects of the names.... but she is questioning the validity of Mathematics itself as a objective means to analyze the world because apparently the only reason people think so is because White people invented Math and infected it with political whiteness.


I would make a wager that she is bad at math lol

What were you reading? I checked the first few pages of the articles I linked, I'm not seeing it there. If one isolates on the sections on why minorities get turned off, you're correct.
 
What were you reading? I checked the first few pages of the articles I linked, I'm not seeing it there. If one isolates on the sections on why minorities get turned off, you're correct.

Wait... Why would minorities be turned off about Mathematics, if great strides in it were discovered by white people? Why don't minorities identify with white people? We are all human, the achievements of "white" people in the past are achievements for everyone, not just white people... really they are just achievements of those individuals in the past, it has nothing to do with whether they are white or not.

It seems your and the books way of thinking is founded in racism.
 
I saw this same article and i had to just laugh at the stupidity of it all.
welcome to the new dark age people.

that is all that we can really say that it is.
 
eh... the Greeks invented the early foundations of modern mathematics... just a fact. The Muslims contributed with algebra and the Chinese with place values and others contributed as well... but modern mathematics was almost exclusively Greek.
 
Whites have white-washed the history of mathematics and the history of science to make it look like white people made most of the great intellectual achievements and that people of color have just been throwing spears at each other.

Of course this whitewashed curriculum plays a role in perpetuating white privilege, but of course the right-wing outrage machine is to busy screeching to try and consider the facts.
 
honestly who gives a rats ass.

this professor is a nut job. math is math. i you want to be successful you need to know math. this is just a given.
 
This is exactly why I never learned Einsteins theory of relativity. It’s not that it was difficult or anything. It is cause it gives credit to a white man. Same reason I won’t buy a ford or shop at Walmart. Why should we give credit to people that make discoveries, found businesses, or systematically change processes to make things more affordable for everyone? This is text book Marxism. Eliminate the individual.
 
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