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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    If we just got rid of democracy, or severely limited it to only those worth 1,000,000 or more this wouldn’t be an issue

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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

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    I beg to differ.

    There are hundreds of free courses and other training that you can pick up in the military that carry over to the civilian side.

    People below the rank of E-5 struggle with money at times, but it is mostly causes by a lack of maturity. Navy Family Services and Command Counselors have to deal with this every single day.

    The GI bill paid for all my courses at Tidewater Community College, and I also received a monthly housing allowance, along with a monthly stipend to boot. The GI Bill can certainly get you to a bachelors degree. Not everyone needs to go to a over priced college.
    I graduated college in 2011. There were a lot of military members, and the GI bill wasn't paying for all of their classes. I honestly don't think the military is much of a good career choice. It probably was many years ago, but it's easy to see how the government and society treats vets now. Politicians are eager to send service members off to war, but do nothing to address the PTSD, homelessness, mental health, the VA is failing, etc.

    Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden - Treatment of Veteran Who Shot Bin Laden

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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I graduated college in 2011. There were a lot of military members, and the GI bill wasn't paying for all of their classes. I honestly don't think the military is much of a good career choice. It probably was many years ago, but it's easy to see how the government and society treats vets now. Politicians are eager to send service members off to war, but do nothing to address the PTSD, homelessness, mental health, the VA is failing, etc.

    Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden - Treatment of Veteran Who Shot Bin Laden
    Sorry but that article leaves a ton of unanswered questions.
    For one, it does not even mention the VA Healthcare System at all.
    Two, retirement pensions come after TWENTY YEARS of service.
    If he isn't a lifer, there was never a pension.

    The article mentions he has disabilities and injuries.
    Has he consulted the VA yet and applied?
    Or will he be one of those "never been but know all about it anyway" guys who bash the VA without even being in the system.
    The Koch Brothers love guys like that.

    But it has little to do with the truth, and if you are interested in the truth, it is out there.
    The VA has been steadily improving in the last fifteen years.
    Thanks for listening.
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    If we just got rid of democracy, or severely limited it to only those worth 1,000,000 or more this wouldn’t be an issue

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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I graduated college in 2011. There were a lot of military members, and the GI bill wasn't paying for all of their classes. I honestly don't think the military is much of a good career choice. It probably was many years ago, but it's easy to see how the government and society treats vets now. Politicians are eager to send service members off to war, but do nothing to address the PTSD, homelessness, mental health, the VA is failing, etc.

    Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden - Treatment of Veteran Who Shot Bin Laden
    The VA is failing, and has been for 50 years.

    I get your drift, and I wouldn't serve to day either.

    I am so glad that I talked my son out of going in after 9-11.

    But as far as the GI bill goes, you definitely can obtain a top notch education from it. I wish that I would have gone the CLEP route, because I was credited some wheres between 70-80 from my previous experience which basically right at a Associated degree. I could have easily obtained a bachelors degree in 2-3 years of part time college. I chose to work and send my daughter to Radford instead and I am glad for it.
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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Sorry but that article leaves a ton of unanswered questions.
    For one, it does not even mention the VA Healthcare System at all.
    Two, retirement pensions come after TWENTY YEARS of service.
    If he isn't a lifer, there was never a pension.

    The article mentions he has disabilities and injuries.
    Has he consulted the VA yet and applied?
    Or will he be one of those "never been but know all about it anyway" guys who bash the VA without even being in the system.
    The Koch Brothers love guys like that.

    But it has little to do with the truth, and if you are interested in the truth, it is out there.
    The VA has been steadily improving in the last fifteen years.
    Thanks for listening.
    Your response has a load of it's own BS. Koch Brothers? Really? What a load of crap! I guess you know much more that the Disabled Veterans @ Disabledveterans.org....or the investigative reporting done by the Military Times, Washington Post, Forbes, and many other institutions.

    Some VA centers have improved.......yes. But overall, the VA is right there with 3rd world medicine in many places around the country.

    Veterans Affairs Gives ‘3rd World’ Health Care To Veterans

    Oooops! The Washington DC VA recently forgot to mail out the cancer results of patients. Incompetent hiring?

    DC VA Medical Center Delayed Mailing Patients Their Breast Cancer Test Results - NBC4 Washington

    Crappy doctor? No problem. Practice under the safety umbrella of the VA because they wont report you!

    VA Medical Centers Fail to Report Substandard Doctors, GAO Says

    VA Health Leaders Failed to Protect Patients from Inept Doctors | Military.com

    Are you a disqualified doctor. No problem, the VA has a job for you anyways.

    GAO Report Shows Disqualified VA Doctors Hired To Treat Veterans


    The VA is not improving like you say it is. There are a few decent centers, but overall it's a 3rd world organization.
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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    Your response has a load of it's own BS. Koch Brothers? Really? What a load of crap! I guess you know much more that the Disabled Veterans @ Disabledveterans.org....or the investigative reporting done by the Military Times, Washington Post, Forbes, and many other institutions.

    Some VA centers have improved.......yes. But overall, the VA is right there with 3rd world medicine in many places around the country.

    Veterans Affairs Gives ‘3rd World’ Health Care To Veterans

    Oooops! The Washington DC VA recently forgot to mail out the cancer results of patients. Incompetent hiring?

    DC VA Medical Center Delayed Mailing Patients Their Breast Cancer Test Results - NBC4 Washington

    Crappy doctor? No problem. Practice under the safety umbrella of the VA because they wont report you!

    VA Medical Centers Fail to Report Substandard Doctors, GAO Says

    VA Health Leaders Failed to Protect Patients from Inept Doctors | Military.com

    Are you a disqualified doctor. No problem, the VA has a job for you anyways.

    GAO Report Shows Disqualified VA Doctors Hired To Treat Veterans


    The VA is not improving like you say it is. There are a few decent centers, but overall it's a 3rd world organization.
    If you can’t depend on the VA, then what do you do?

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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    Your response has a load of it's own BS. Koch Brothers? Really? What a load of crap! I guess you know much more that the Disabled Veterans @ Disabledveterans.org....or the investigative reporting done by the Military Times, Washington Post, Forbes, and many other institutions.

    Some VA centers have improved.......yes. But overall, the VA is right there with 3rd world medicine in many places around the country.

    Veterans Affairs Gives ‘3rd World’ Health Care To Veterans
    Disabled Veterans dot org? Why aren't you asking the Disabled Veterans of America? The DAV?
    Disabled Veterans dot org is run by an attorney who makes a living suing the VA, and you think he's a veterans rights advocate?
    He's a trial lawyer.

    Yes, the Koch Brothers. They fund and operate "Concerned Veterans of America" which is a front for privatizing the VA, which by the way goes against the wishes of an overwhelming number of disabled veterans.

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    Crappy doctor? No problem. Practice under the safety umbrella of the VA because they wont report you!

    VA Medical Centers Fail to Report Substandard Doctors, GAO Says
    And as we are about to find out, if you're in the private sector, you will never even get reported at all!

    Quote Originally Posted by Medscape
    "Of the 148 providers whose clinical care was reviewed from 2013 to 2017, five were subject to adverse privileging actions and four resigned or retired while under review but before adverse actions were taken."
    Wow, five practitioners out of a hundred and forty-eight? That's all? Have you looked up the same records for private sector care?
    Did you also use the NPBD for that, too?

    The NPDB was flawed from the beginning. Its purpose
    was to make malpractice settlements and judgments
    (about 80% of the information reported) as well as hospital and licensing board disciplinary actions available
    to insurance companies and hospitals nationwide. It was
    hoped that this would restrict providers from practicing
    “anonymously” across state lines while concealing previous medical malpractice payments or an adverse disciplinary action history. However, the design of the NPDB
    not only included significant reporting exceptions that
    have undermined its reliability, but it also failed to take
    into consideration the natural reluctance of the medical
    community to punish colleagues publicly.
    The flaws of the NPDB are analyzed extensively in the
    GAO report. For example, physicians are not required
    to report to the NPDB5; this may be a problem under
    several circumstances. Because physicians are not
    defined as eligible entitles under the law, a private
    settlement between physician and patient is not a
    reportable event. In addition, a hospital’s legal settlement that includes dismissal of a physician but does
    not mention the physician by name in the agreement
    produces no reportable event for the physician
    involved. Consequently, the NPDB has no record
    of any private settlements between the physician
    and patient, and no record of any “corporate shield”
    settlements made by the hospital.

    **SOURCE: National Practitioner Data Bank: Who Can Open theVault?Robert H. Aicher, Esq.**
    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post

    The VA is not improving like you say it is. There are a few decent centers, but overall it's a 3rd world organization.
    I'll patiently wait for you to provide information on how well the private sector compares, and the results of THEIR reporting requirements.
    If I don't see comparative data on the private sector from you in 72 hours, I'll provide it.

    You've already admitted that you never used the VA, is my memory correct on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    If we just got rid of democracy, or severely limited it to only those worth 1,000,000 or more this wouldn’t be an issue

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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Disabled Veterans dot org? Why aren't you asking the Disabled Veterans of America? The DAV?
    Disabled Veterans dot org is run by an attorney who makes a living suing the VA, and you think he's a veterans rights advocate?
    He's a trial lawyer.

    Yes, the Koch Brothers. They fund and operate "Concerned Veterans of America" which is a front for privatizing the VA, which by the way goes against the wishes of an overwhelming number of disabled veterans.



    And as we are about to find out, if you're in the private sector, you will never even get reported at all!



    Wow, five practitioners out of a hundred and forty-eight? That's all? Have you looked up the same records for private sector care?
    Did you also use the NPBD for that, too?







    I'll patiently wait for you to provide information on how well the private sector compares, and the results of THEIR reporting requirements.
    If I don't see comparative data on the private sector from you in 72 hours, I'll provide it.

    You've already admitted that you never used the VA, is my memory correct on that?
    You are full of beans. Your wife got a good shake (and I am glad she did) from the VA and now you have a groupie complex.

    Hundreds of thousands of veterans say otherwise about the VA.

    The VA medical sucks period!
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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    If you can’t depend on the VA, then what do you do?
    I have Tri-Care until I'm 65

    Veterans who didn't retire can go wait in line for 3-4 years for a operation in many cases.

    Many veterans get shown the door as they don't qualify.

    No worries though.......up until recently, the VA was more than willing to give you all the addictive pain killers you could fit into a wheel barrow.
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    Re: Poverty is about mindset !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Disabled Veterans dot org? Why aren't you asking the Disabled Veterans of America? The DAV?
    Disabled Veterans dot org is run by an attorney who makes a living suing the VA, and you think he's a veterans rights advocate?
    He's a trial lawyer.

    Yes, the Koch Brothers. They fund and operate "Concerned Veterans of America" which is a front for privatizing the VA, which by the way goes against the wishes of an overwhelming number of disabled veterans.



    And as we are about to find out, if you're in the private sector, you will never even get reported at all!



    Wow, five practitioners out of a hundred and forty-eight? That's all? Have you looked up the same records for private sector care?
    Did you also use the NPBD for that, too?







    I'll patiently wait for you to provide information on how well the private sector compares, and the results of THEIR reporting requirements.
    If I don't see comparative data on the private sector from you in 72 hours, I'll provide it.

    You've already admitted that you never used the VA, is my memory correct on that?
    I can go over to Sentara today and be seen by a doctor. I don't need to call the VA and wait a month, or Tri-Care and wait 2 weeks
    “It’s easier to run for office than to run the office.”
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