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Hoarding 'junk silver' dimes to prepare for the coming Apocalypse

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You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure out what's happening to the currency in this country. Let me give to one example:

In 1964, when I was in college, a dime was worth ten cents. A roll of 50 dimes was worth $5.00. Dimes up to 1964 were made out of an alloy of copper & silver: 10% copper & 90% silver. Silver is classified as 'precious metal' along with gold, platinum, & palladium. These metals are rare & have special properties that give them what is known as 'intrinsic value.'

The same dime today is worth about $1.40 & a roll of 50 of those is worth around $70 depending on where the market is for silver on given day. At the same time as the value of silver has been increasing, the value of the paper dollar has been shrinking. The $24 I had last night before I went to sleep was worth less this morning. But yesterday the market for silver increased by $50/ounce.

Why is paper money declining in value? To quote Voltaire, “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero” While there is a limit as to the amount of silver available in the Earth, there is no limit on how much paper currency the government can print. And paper money has no intrinsic value. As more & more is printed, its value naturally declines toward that zero.

Definition of 'intrinsic': adjective. belonging to a thing by its very nature: the intrinsic value of a gold ring.

A lot of people are interested in silver in certain forms: bars, ingots, medallions, commemorative pieces, etc. But the topic here is why you should be collecting a special type called 'junk silver.' What is junk silver? Basically it is a collective term for previously circulated U.S. fractional currency (dimes, quarters, half dollars) minted before 1965. As these coins are worn & are found in a wide range of conditions, they have no collector or numistatistic value. They are worth only the value of their silver content.

There is a large & growing movement to which I belong that is collecting, amassing & hoarding junk silver. Why do we focus our attention & resources on this area? Because just like what happened in October 1929, the economic bubble that we all live in is going to burst. The after effect of that collapse took 10 years, a Democratic President & a World War to recover from.

So what, you might ask. Recessions happen all the time & we're still here. But the prospect of a total economic collapse as happened in 1929 is not going to be something that you can just ignore, like the 'staglation' during the Carter years. Paper money, stocks, bonds & anything of current value printed on paper may become valueless. So, you might say, the Government can just print more. But as Voltaire said, the more they print, the faster its value goes to zero.

People who are building up stockpiles of silver coins are also known as 'Preppers.' What's a Prepper? A Prepper is someone who is preparing for he coming economic collapse. Paper currency will stop being useful in daily commerce to one extent or another. But silver will not only maintain its value, it will increase in direct proportion to the loss of value of paper currency.

People who were penniless & jobless during the Great Depression depended to a great extent on a barter economy. I have corn, you have rice, we work out a trade that benefits us both & we get to feed our families that day.

Junk silver has a number of positive things going for it. It is instantly recognizable as a thing with historical, real, intrinsic value. It could be used to barter for food, for gasoline, for medical & dental services. Stores & gas stations already exist that will accept junk silver in return for food, gasoline & essential medical services.

I don't have all my assets in junk silver. I have an increasing amount of it, along with vintage gold coins, vintage silver dollars & cash money in the bank as well as a nice monthly income. But I see a stock market bubble of even greater proportion that the 'dot com' bubble. And I see a Federal Government careening out of control, led by manipulators & incompetents. I don't see the near future as being very bright. I hope you see the same thing & take precautions along the lines I mentioned.
 
You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure out what's happening to the currency in this country. Let me give to one example:

In 1964, when I was in college, a dime was worth ten cents. A roll of 50 dimes was worth $5.00. Dimes up to 1964 were made out of an alloy of copper & silver: 10% copper & 90% silver. Silver is classified as 'precious metal' along with gold, platinum, & palladium. These metals are rare & have special properties that give them what is known as 'intrinsic value.'

The same dime today is worth about $1.40 & a roll of 50 of those is worth around $70 depending on where the market is for silver on given day. At the same time as the value of silver has been increasing, the value of the paper dollar has been shrinking. The $24 I had last night before I went to sleep was worth less this morning. But yesterday the market for silver increased by $50/ounce.

Why is paper money declining in value? To quote Voltaire, “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero” While there is a limit as to the amount of silver available in the Earth, there is no limit on how much paper currency the government can print. And paper money has no intrinsic value. As more & more is printed, its value naturally declines toward that zero.

Definition of 'intrinsic': adjective. belonging to a thing by its very nature: the intrinsic value of a gold ring.

A lot of people are interested in silver in certain forms: bars, ingots, medallions, commemorative pieces, etc. But the topic here is why you should be collecting a special type called 'junk silver.' What is junk silver? Basically it is a collective term for previously circulated U.S. fractional currency (dimes, quarters, half dollars) minted before 1965. As these coins are worn & are found in a wide range of conditions, they have no collector or numistatistic value. They are worth only the value of their silver content.

There is a large & growing movement to which I belong that is collecting, amassing & hoarding junk silver. Why do we focus our attention & resources on this area? Because just like what happened in October 1929, the economic bubble that we all live in is going to burst. The after effect of that collapse took 10 years, a Democratic President & a World War to recover from.

So what, you might ask. Recessions happen all the time & we're still here. But the prospect of a total economic collapse as happened in 1929 is not going to be something that you can just ignore, like the 'staglation' during the Carter years. Paper money, stocks, bonds & anything of current value printed on paper may become valueless. So, you might say, the Government can just print more. But as Voltaire said, the more they print, the faster its value goes to zero.

People who are building up stockpiles of silver coins are also known as 'Preppers.' What's a Prepper? A Prepper is someone who is preparing for he coming economic collapse. Paper currency will stop being useful in daily commerce to one extent or another. But silver will not only maintain its value, it will increase in direct proportion to the loss of value of paper currency.

People who were penniless & jobless during the Great Depression depended to a great extent on a barter economy. I have corn, you have rice, we work out a trade that benefits us both & we get to feed our families that day.

Junk silver has a number of positive things going for it. It is instantly recognizable as a thing with historical, real, intrinsic value. It could be used to barter for food, for gasoline, for medical & dental services. Stores & gas stations already exist that will accept junk silver in return for food, gasoline & essential medical services.

I don't have all my assets in junk silver. I have an increasing amount of it, along with vintage gold coins, vintage silver dollars & cash money in the bank as well as a nice monthly income. But I see a stock market bubble of even greater proportion that the 'dot com' bubble. And I see a Federal Government careening out of control, led by manipulators & incompetents. I don't see the near future as being very bright. I hope you see the same thing & take precautions along the lines I mentioned.

During an "apocalypse", the premium you pay for numismatic value (old legal tender coins) will be irrelevant. Invest only in bullion.

Come to think of it, during an apocalypses, the only thing of real value will be food and shelter.
 
During an "apocalypse", the premium you pay for numismatic value (old legal tender coins) will be irrelevant. Invest only in bullion.

Come to think of it, during an apocalypses, the only thing of real value will be food and shelter.

As well as guns, ammo and medicines.
 
Any good recipes for precious metal?
 
My husband isn't a 'prepper' per se but he has collected silver and gold for many years. He always said "If there's a run on banks like there was prior to the big depression, the banks will close their doors and lock you out of your account". So he has stashed 'ready money' in the form of disposable gold whether it's coin or jewelry. He also keeps a few thousand in cash, 'just in case' he can't get into the bank for months. He always says 'cash is king, but gold is better'.

No, you cannot have my address.
 
You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure out what's happening to the currency in this country. Let me give to one example:

In 1964, when I was in college, a dime was worth ten cents. A roll of 50 dimes was worth $5.00. Dimes up to 1964 were made out of an alloy of copper & silver: 10% copper & 90% silver. Silver is classified as 'precious metal' along with gold, platinum, & palladium. These metals are rare & have special properties that give them what is known as 'intrinsic value.'

The same dime today is worth about $1.40 & a roll of 50 of those is worth around $70 depending on where the market is for silver on given day. At the same time as the value of silver has been increasing, the value of the paper dollar has been shrinking. The $24 I had last night before I went to sleep was worth less this morning. But yesterday the market for silver increased by $50/ounce.

I don't know if that if you just typed it wrong or misheard.But silver is $17.60 an ounce right now. The closest it was to 50 dollars an ounce was back in April 2011 where it peaked at $47.04 an ounce.

Live USD Silver Price Charts & Historical Data | APMEX
 
40% silver half dollars are a better investment. They can't go below their fifty cent face value if for some odd reason the price of silver craters. They are currently worth about five times face value.
 
You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure out what's happening to the currency in this country. Let me give to one example:

In 1964, when I was in college, a dime was worth ten cents. A roll of 50 dimes was worth $5.00. Dimes up to 1964 were made out of an alloy of copper & silver: 10% copper & 90% silver. Silver is classified as 'precious metal' along with gold, platinum, & palladium. These metals are rare & have special properties that give them what is known as 'intrinsic value.'

The same dime today is worth about $1.40 & a roll of 50 of those is worth around $70 depending on where the market is for silver on given day. At the same time as the value of silver has been increasing, the value of the paper dollar has been shrinking. The $24 I had last night before I went to sleep was worth less this morning. But yesterday the market for silver increased by $50/ounce.

Why is paper money declining in value? To quote Voltaire, “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero” While there is a limit as to the amount of silver available in the Earth, there is no limit on how much paper currency the government can print. And paper money has no intrinsic value. As more & more is printed, its value naturally declines toward that zero.

Definition of 'intrinsic': adjective. belonging to a thing by its very nature: the intrinsic value of a gold ring.

A lot of people are interested in silver in certain forms: bars, ingots, medallions, commemorative pieces, etc. But the topic here is why you should be collecting a special type called 'junk silver.' What is junk silver? Basically it is a collective term for previously circulated U.S. fractional currency (dimes, quarters, half dollars) minted before 1965. As these coins are worn & are found in a wide range of conditions, they have no collector or numistatistic value. They are worth only the value of their silver content.

There is a large & growing movement to which I belong that is collecting, amassing & hoarding junk silver. Why do we focus our attention & resources on this area? Because just like what happened in October 1929, the economic bubble that we all live in is going to burst. The after effect of that collapse took 10 years, a Democratic President & a World War to recover from.

So what, you might ask. Recessions happen all the time & we're still here. But the prospect of a total economic collapse as happened in 1929 is not going to be something that you can just ignore, like the 'staglation' during the Carter years. Paper money, stocks, bonds & anything of current value printed on paper may become valueless. So, you might say, the Government can just print more. But as Voltaire said, the more they print, the faster its value goes to zero.

People who are building up stockpiles of silver coins are also known as 'Preppers.' What's a Prepper? A Prepper is someone who is preparing for he coming economic collapse. Paper currency will stop being useful in daily commerce to one extent or another. But silver will not only maintain its value, it will increase in direct proportion to the loss of value of paper currency.

People who were penniless & jobless during the Great Depression depended to a great extent on a barter economy. I have corn, you have rice, we work out a trade that benefits us both & we get to feed our families that day.

Junk silver has a number of positive things going for it. It is instantly recognizable as a thing with historical, real, intrinsic value. It could be used to barter for food, for gasoline, for medical & dental services. Stores & gas stations already exist that will accept junk silver in return for food, gasoline & essential medical services.

I don't have all my assets in junk silver. I have an increasing amount of it, along with vintage gold coins, vintage silver dollars & cash money in the bank as well as a nice monthly income. But I see a stock market bubble of even greater proportion that the 'dot com' bubble. And I see a Federal Government careening out of control, led by manipulators & incompetents. I don't see the near future as being very bright. I hope you see the same thing & take precautions along the lines I mentioned.

Are you planning to find a way to eat silver? No one will trade that worthless metal for food in an apocalypse
 
Why does this thread read like one of those ads pushing gold as in investment?

The information contained in Debate Politics does not constitute investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns. You are encouraged to do your own research before investing. And stay away from precious metals.

It's okay as a hedge if you're a multimillionaire, but for regular folks it's a scam. You pay like 15 points to buy AND another 15 points to sell. Imagine if you had to pay 30 points whenever you sold your home and moved to a new one.
 
I just own some for fun. You are absolutely right on the margins. Then you have the risk of counterfeit junk silver. Only buy if you don't have to pay those 15 points you mention below. Buy testing supplies and install the pingcoin app. You can find deals on craigslist if you are VERY CAREFUL.

Why does this thread read like one of those ads pushing gold as in investment?

The information contained in Debate Politics does not constitute investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns. You are encouraged to do your own research before investing. And stay away from precious metals.

It's okay as a hedge if you're a multimillionaire, but for regular folks it's a scam. You pay like 15 points to buy AND another 15 points to sell. Imagine if you had to pay 30 points whenever you sold your home and moved to a new one.
 
During an "apocalypse", the premium you pay for numismatic value (old legal tender coins) will be irrelevant. Invest only in bullion.

Come to think of it, during an apocalypses, the only thing of real value will be food and shelter.

"Junk gold" is a form of bullion (gold alloyed with a little copper). Having silver in the form of readily recognizable U.S. coins will be your easiest way to obtain food & shelter during hard times. Gold is too expensive & is not readily available in the small bits you would need in place of junk silver dimes.
 
I just own some for fun. You are absolutely right on the margins. Then you have the risk of counterfeit junk silver. Only buy if you don't have to pay those 15 points you mention below. Buy testing supplies and install the pingcoin app. You can find deals on craigslist if you are VERY CAREFUL.

I deal with a highly recommended & lowest price bullion seller. I pay the price posted on his web site. What points? I bought 60 rolls of Roosevelt dimes today for his listed price, $1,306/20 rolls or $65.30/roll. STAY AWAY FROM THE BIG GUYS LIKE APMEX who have lots of negative feedback from people who got burned one way or another buying from the biggest seller.
 
"Junk gold" is a form of bullion (gold alloyed with a little copper). Having silver in the form of readily recognizable U.S. coins will be your easiest way to obtain food & shelter during hard times. Gold is too expensive & is not readily available in the small bits you would need in place of junk silver dimes.

Even with junk silver, you're still paying a small numismatic premium.

You would have to carry a wheel barrel full of dimes to buy anything of value. Remember, during an apocalypse, silver will have no set market value, so it's only the face value that people would be willing to accept. (at best)

In any case, I think most people would rather barter things like food, shelter and guns, rather than trade in the coinage of a nation that no longer exists.
 
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My husband isn't a 'prepper' per se but he has collected silver and gold for many years. He always said "If there's a run on banks like there was prior to the big depression, the banks will close their doors and lock you out of your account". So he has stashed 'ready money' in the form of disposable gold whether it's coin or jewelry. He also keeps a few thousand in cash, 'just in case' he can't get into the bank for months. He always says 'cash is king, but gold is better'.

No, you cannot have my address.

We have some junk silver coinage but not all that much. We also have some cash stashed plus two regular monthly incomes but let's just play devil's advocate and imagine an apocalypse, the level of which would incline most normal everyday people to USE THE WORD "apocalypse".

A loaf of bread, or jug of milk, or flour, or a package of beef will begin to eventually cost whatever the market will bear thus with it being an apocalypse and all, how about $150 for a gallon of gas, $25 for 5 gallons of potable water, seventy bucks for a loaf of bread, fifty for a gallon of 2% moo-moo-cow, $175 for five pounds of beef and a hundred bucks for a five pound bag of flour.
And the folks setting the prices look like this:

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You CAN get your basic stuff cheaper, just shoot those guys and it's yours.
What I'm getting at is, your gold and silver is worthless, because in an apocalypse, expect apocalypse prices.
 
"Junk gold" is a form of bullion (gold alloyed with a little copper). Having silver in the form of readily recognizable U.S. coins will be your easiest way to obtain food & shelter during hard times. Gold is too expensive & is not readily available in the small bits you would need in place of junk silver dimes.

How do you figure that anyone will want old money?
 
Are you planning to find a way to eat silver? No one will trade that worthless metal for food in an apocalypse

Sure they will!

"How much for a pound of hamburger?"

"How much you got?"

"No, seriously...I'm asking you how much are you charging?"

"And I'm askin you how much you got."

"How much do you want?"

"All of it, boy."

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You guys seem to think you have to have real zombies for a zombie apocalypse.
You've been watching too much "Walking Dead", or you haven't watched enough "Walking Dead", depending on how you view the plot of the show.

I'm here to tell you that you don't actually NEED the undead zombie people at all, because as the show illustrates, the apocalypse is perfectly capable of turning large segments of the still living into very evil people organized into very evil organized groups, and they'll do you just as nasty or nastier than the walking dead zombies will.

We have witnessed people state right here in this forum that they do not care if democracy collapses, if the society collapses, or if the administrative state collapses, or even if basic law and order collapses. We have people right here who are eager for the apocalypse to come and who want to see it all burn down.

I think back at some of the stuff they say and it all boils down to hearing this:

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Why does this thread read like one of those ads pushing gold as in investment?

The information contained in Debate Politics does not constitute investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns. You are encouraged to do your own research before investing. And stay away from precious metals.

It's okay as a hedge if you're a multimillionaire, but for regular folks it's a scam. You pay like 15 points to buy AND another 15 points to sell. Imagine if you had to pay 30 points whenever you sold your home and moved to a new one.

This post is not an ad (I'm not offering to buy or sell anything) & it is fact/opinion only, not financial advice. And PMs are it when the paper has worth nothing.
 
There is going to be a long period where goods are the only accepted currency. Any transaction is dangerous - the other person may just kill you for whatever you have. No one is going to want to complicate things by lugging around silver coins and conducting multiple dangerous transactions to get what they want or need. What I need is not something that has no use except to get me killed by taking your coins to someone else for something I should have got from you.
 
Even with junk silver, you're still paying a small numismatic premium.

You would have to carry a wheel barrel full of dimes to buy anything of value. Remember, during an apocalypse, silver will have no set market value, so it's only the face value that people would be willing to accept. (at best)

In any case, I think most people would rather barter things like food, shelter and guns, rather than trade in the coinage of a nation that no longer exists.

A junk silver dime that's worth about $1.40 today will be worth many times that when there is no other currency around. Silver is still silver whether or not this country is still around after Trump gets through with it.

BTW, I have guns & ammo & live in a pretty safe suburb of a large NE city. We will have to deal with the more desperate elements that filter away from the chaos & ruin of the big city. They may come to your door begging for a handout but may be prepared to kill you in order to take over what you have. No pity. Pity is exposing your weakness & vulnerability.

There will be a big difference between what people prefer & what they are instead forced to do & endure. The majority of us won't survive a nuclear war anyway but it still feels good to be as prepared as possible. Like my having an automatic, propane-fueled whole house electrical generator. Only a few of my neighbors have that ability.
 
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In an actual "apocalyptic breakdown", if you're over forty or forty-five, the only way you will survive is if you're both well armed and very wealthy.
Innumerable very strong and healthy older males will be ground into red mud by roving bands of wealthier mercenaries who don't appreciate competition from strong healthy older males who are also as crafty and wise as they are but who lack the wealth resources.
The wealthy mercs always, and I mean always down through all of history, see them as a threat.

A wizened older male still in possession of their health who may be hungry might try to take over, and the older wealthier mercs already have their hands full trying to command the younger and hungrier healthy males, who they need to use as cannon fodder in their mercenary wars

Wealthy warlords don't like other warlord types none too much unless they can draft them as loyal toadies and install them where convenient.
That is the only other option, one of complete subservience to the chief warlord.

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By the way, having a few rolls of silver coins isn't going to be considered "wealthy".
 
You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure out what's happening to the currency in this country. Let me give to one example:

In 1964, when I was in college, a dime was worth ten cents. A roll of 50 dimes was worth $5.00. Dimes up to 1964 were made out of an alloy of copper & silver: 10% copper & 90% silver. Silver is classified as 'precious metal' along with gold, platinum, & palladium. These metals are rare & have special properties that give them what is known as 'intrinsic value.'

The same dime today is worth about $1.40 & a roll of 50 of those is worth around $70 depending on where the market is for silver on given day. At the same time as the value of silver has been increasing, the value of the paper dollar has been shrinking. The $24 I had last night before I went to sleep was worth less this morning. But yesterday the market for silver increased by $50/ounce.

Why is paper money declining in value? To quote Voltaire, “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero” While there is a limit as to the amount of silver available in the Earth, there is no limit on how much paper currency the government can print. And paper money has no intrinsic value. As more & more is printed, its value naturally declines toward that zero.

Definition of 'intrinsic': adjective. belonging to a thing by its very nature: the intrinsic value of a gold ring.

A lot of people are interested in silver in certain forms: bars, ingots, medallions, commemorative pieces, etc. But the topic here is why you should be collecting a special type called 'junk silver.' What is junk silver? Basically it is a collective term for previously circulated U.S. fractional currency (dimes, quarters, half dollars) minted before 1965. As these coins are worn & are found in a wide range of conditions, they have no collector or numistatistic value. They are worth only the value of their silver content.

There is a large & growing movement to which I belong that is collecting, amassing & hoarding junk silver. Why do we focus our attention & resources on this area? Because just like what happened in October 1929, the economic bubble that we all live in is going to burst. The after effect of that collapse took 10 years, a Democratic President & a World War to recover from.

So what, you might ask. Recessions happen all the time & we're still here. But the prospect of a total economic collapse as happened in 1929 is not going to be something that you can just ignore, like the 'staglation' during the Carter years. Paper money, stocks, bonds & anything of current value printed on paper may become valueless. So, you might say, the Government can just print more. But as Voltaire said, the more they print, the faster its value goes to zero.

People who are building up stockpiles of silver coins are also known as 'Preppers.' What's a Prepper? A Prepper is someone who is preparing for he coming economic collapse. Paper currency will stop being useful in daily commerce to one extent or another. But silver will not only maintain its value, it will increase in direct proportion to the loss of value of paper currency.

People who were penniless & jobless during the Great Depression depended to a great extent on a barter economy. I have corn, you have rice, we work out a trade that benefits us both & we get to feed our families that day.

Junk silver has a number of positive things going for it. It is instantly recognizable as a thing with historical, real, intrinsic value. It could be used to barter for food, for gasoline, for medical & dental services. Stores & gas stations already exist that will accept junk silver in return for food, gasoline & essential medical services.

I don't have all my assets in junk silver. I have an increasing amount of it, along with vintage gold coins, vintage silver dollars & cash money in the bank as well as a nice monthly income. But I see a stock market bubble of even greater proportion that the 'dot com' bubble. And I see a Federal Government careening out of control, led by manipulators & incompetents. I don't see the near future as being very bright. I hope you see the same thing & take precautions along the lines I mentioned.

Junk silver will be worth exactly what the person with food/gas/ammo you need decides at the time.

And in case of the apocalypse that is likely going to be Zilch point squat.
 
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