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The 2007 Subprime Mortgage crisis

Do you agree that the stimulus package was the right step to save the economy from the recession?


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The 2007 Subprime Mortgage crisis was the worst in the history of the U.S and the world, the unemployment level starts to rise, and millions lost their homes. In the U.S alone, home foreclosures spiked 81% in 2008, and they are up 225% compared with 2006 according to CNN money website. One of every 54 Americans, 3.1 million, received foreclosure filing in 2008. In fact, a number of 861.664 Americans lost their homes. Home prices in the U.S had been fallen 21%-40% from 2006 price levels. The 2008-2009 recession begins which the Global economy until now didn’t recover.

Governments and investors fear the recession for several reasons. First, it will lower the price of stocks, assets, and housing. Second, it will increase the unemployment rate. Third, it will affect the government tax revenue since money wages is sticky, real wages purchasing power will increase in the recession, tax revenue will be lost. Forth, economic downturn when persisted is a fertile ground for fascist, nationalist and populist ideologies. The recession that followed WW1 in Germany and Italy lead up to the birth of fascist and Nazi ideology in both countries.

In Order to save the U.S and Global economy, governments around the world in coordinated efforts injected trillions of dollars as a stimulus package, a designated economic measure to stimulate the floundering economy by incentives and tax rebate. The stimulus package can either be in fiscal stimulus, monetary stimulus or even both. The ultimate goal of an economic measure taken in the case of crises is to prevent a recession. However, central bankers and treasury departments need to be extremely careful because their efforts could lead to hyperinflation. A combination of hyperinflation and recession together can be a prescription for financial and economic disaster on an unprecedented level.

Over 800 billion U.S.D spent on bailing out the failed financial institutions in the U.S only. It was called "Stimulus Package," a rephrasing for handling taxpayers money to the wealthy financial institutions, a free lunch as bounces to their CEOs, a reward for their failure. Can you imagine that this amount of money used to bail out the real homeowners who lost their homes as a result of the 2007 Subprime Mortgage Crisis? An average bailout rate or loan guarantees of 150 thousand U.S.D per family, 800 billion U.S.D will bail out over 5 Million family. A report by CNN money published in January/2009 mentioned a total of 861,664 families lost their homes to foreclosure in the year 2008. Why taxpayers money should pay for reckless CEOs irresponsible investment in inflated poisonous financial securities market?

In order to write this thread, I quote from CNN money website. On that website, a small picture with the title "Got a grand? Get a house." Are you kidding me? Did these real estates moguls ever stop selling people crap?
Foreclosures up a record 81% in 2008 - Jan. 15, 2009

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You are confusing the stimulus package with TARP. The Obama Stimulus bill wasn't a bank bailout.
 
You are confusing the stimulus package with TARP. The Obama Stimulus bill wasn't a bank bailout.

Can you elaborate on your answer, please?
 
the stimulus helped me a lot when i lost my job after my boss lost his grant. looking back, i would have supported making it a lot bigger. i think that a WPA type program should go into effect automatically every time the gamblers destroy the economy, and the wealthiest should pay for it. same thing with war, except everyone should pay for that. that would be a strong incentive against risky gambling and war.
 
Voted maybe.

In principle when you have a fault in aggregate demand we should appeal to the one entity that can influence GDP quickly, and it should be in the form of a stimulus package of spending needs.

Where we ran into issues with recovery from 2007-2008 is much of the spending ended up questionable to economic impact.

What we did spend did have impact, we’ll debate for decades how much.
 
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Over 800 billion U.S.D spent on bailing out the failed financial institutions

Failed banks were not bailed out just given loans which they repaid. Liberal individuals get $trillion in welfare entitlements and never pay back a penny? Do you understand?
 
i would have supported making it a lot bigger.


you mean as long as you were ripping off some other guy and not paying for it yourself!!
 
Failed banks were not bailed out just given loans which they repaid. Liberal individuals get $trillion in welfare entitlements and never pay back a penny? Do you understand?

Losses were socialised while profit is privatised.
 
Failed banks were not bailed out just given loans which they repaid. Liberal individuals get $trillion in welfare entitlements and never pay back a penny? Do you understand?

And why loans used to pay tens of millions in bounces for failed banks CEOs?
 
the stimulus helped me a lot when i lost my job after my boss lost his grant. looking back, i would have supported making it a lot bigger. i think that a WPA type program should go into effect automatically every time the gamblers destroy the economy, and the wealthiest should pay for it. same thing with war, except everyone should pay for that. that would be a strong incentive against risky gambling and war.

The problem is that the wealthiest aren't paying for anything
 
Voted maybe.

In principle when you have a fault in aggregate demand we should appeal to the one entity that can influence GDP quickly, and it should be in the form of a stimulus package of spending needs.

Where we ran into issues with recovery from 2007-2008 is much of the spending ended up questionable to economic impact.

What we did spend did have impact, we’ll debate for decades how much.

I guess you mean the multiplier factor, spend a dollar in order to receive more in return. I think president Obama declare 50 billion expenditure on public projects and infrastructure. But how much this small amount can impact the economy as large as the U.S?
 
Except that is not true.

It is true
can you explain for me the tax structure in countries like the U.S or Canada compared to countries like Sweden or Denmark?
 
What about them?

The wealthiest 1% pay 40% of total income taxes.

sad isn't it that liberals and the poor vilify the rich when the rich pay all the bills! And how odd that the more dependent the poor become the more entitled liberals want them to feel.
 
The problem is that the wealthiest aren't paying for anything

Your handlers would love the way you repeat that lie without ever considering if its true!!
 
What about them?

The wealthiest 1% pay 40% of total income taxes.

How much of the wealth these 1% own and how much income they receive compared to the rest of the population?
 
What about your handlers?

Dear you said the rich don't pay when in fact the top 1% pay 44% of all the tax money collected. Embarrassing!
 
How much of the wealth these 1% own and how much income they receive compared to the rest of the population?
now your dodging. you said they pay nothing and then you learned how absurd that is!
 
now your dodging. you said they pay nothing and then you learned how absurd that is!

It's not dodging. Nothing isn't always zero. Did you ever read the bible and the story of the poor woman donating the little she has for the temple?
 
That is the nature of crony capitalism.
Speaking of cronies.....where are Dodd and Frank?
If it weren't for cronyism how could Democrats raise money from businesses?

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Dear you said the rich don't pay when in fact the top 1% pay 44% of all the tax money collected. Embarrassing!

You are the one embarrass yourself
 
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