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James972 said:
that's because they pay foreign taxes too!!! 1+1=2
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So we lose jobs and revenue.

President Clinton screwed this nation over royally with all those free trade agreements.
 
James972 said:
So inviting in 30 million illegals and now wanting open borders to invite in another 30 million to take Joe and Janes jobs is a way to be friends with Joe and Jane American?? See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance? Is any other conclusion possible?
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I'm sure if we actually became open as a nation, China would be glad to ship a billion people to us.
 
James972 said:
and?????????? Do you know your point??
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Its a point to consider.

What if another nationality of people outnumbered us 3:1? All poor, looking for a handout?
 
Lord of Planar said:
So we lose jobs and revenue.

President Clinton screwed this nation over royally with all those free trade agreements.
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well, getting China hooked on trade was probably a good idea to draw them into the free world and away from Russia. But now its time for fairer trade.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Its a point to consider.

What if another nationality of people outnumbered us 3:1? All poor, looking for a handout?
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Liberals would say we were racist for not letting them all in and stupid people would vote for them no matter how low American wages got!!
 
James972 said:
Liberals would say we were racist for not letting them all in and stupid people would vote for them no matter how low American wages got!!
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And then, demand a $25/hr minimum wage.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Either that or make 'job creators' pay more for them since they are, after all, the primary beneficiaries of them.
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we don't want to hassle job creators we want to encourage them.
 
James972 said:
we don't want to hassle job creators we want to encourage them.
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We also want to encourage 'job creators' to offer better pay and benefits in order to attract/retain qualified labor. The idea that we the sheeple will make a MW into a 'living wage' for some applicants/workers is simply subsidizing the 'job creators'.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
We also want to encourage 'job creators' to offer better pay and benefits in order to attract/retain qualified labor. The idea that we the sheeple will make a MW into a 'living wage' for some applicants/workers is simply subsidizing the 'job creators'.
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no idea what you are talking about?? they pay market price for everything. Ship 30 million liberal illegals home and eliminate liberal taxes unions regulations and idiotic trade deals and market price would be a lot higher. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
no idea what you are talking about?? they pay market price for everything. Ship 30 million liberal illegals home and eliminate liberal taxes unions regulations and idiotic trade deals and market price would be a lot higher. Do you understand?
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I guess this article sums it up fairly well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...s-wants-amazon-pay-up/?utm_term=.0ebbf968a2bf

When a worker requires $X/month in order to meet their household's living expenses then they really don't much care how much of that $X/month comes from a meager paycheck and what is added (or made unnecessary) by the various "safety net" programs.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I guess this article sums it up fairly well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...s-wants-amazon-pay-up/?utm_term=.0ebbf968a2bf

When a worker requires $X/month in order to meet their household's living expenses then they really don't much care how much of that $X/month comes from a meager paycheck and what is added (or made unnecessary) by the various "safety net" programs.
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the worker may not care but he should and so should we. Do you know why? We don't want an ever growing, dependent, and liberal voting population.
 
James972 said:
no idea what you are talking about?? they pay market price for everything. Ship 30 million liberal illegals home and eliminate liberal taxes unions regulations and idiotic trade deals and market price would be a lot higher. Do you understand?
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Eliminating unions will get labor paid more? I'd love to hear how you think that would work.
 
phattonez said:
Eliminating unions will get labor paid more? I'd love to hear how you think that would work.
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unions are mostly eliminated but the threat of return is always there preventing many companies from coming here. Make them illegal again, the fear will be gone, companies will come here. and there will be upward pressure on wages. Do you get it now?
 
James972 said:
unions are mostly eliminated but the threat of return is always there preventing many companies from coming here. Make them illegal again, the fear will be gone, companies will come here. and there will be upward pressure on wages. Do you get it now?
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Lol, unions are effectively dead in the private sector now. Where's the benefit to American workers?

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phattonez said:
Lol, unions are effectively dead in the private sector now.
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thats why i said "unions are mostly eliminated". do you want to reread for comprehension this time?
 
phattonez said:
Where's the benefit to American workers?
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you don't see it with liberal taxes regulations trade deals and 30 million illegals taking their jobs. Do you get this simple reasoning??
 
James972 said:
thats why i said "unions are mostly eliminated". do you want to reread for comprehension this time?
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And what's been the benefit?

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phattonez said:
Lol, unions are effectively dead in the private sector now. Where's the benefit to American workers?

Sent from my HTC phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.
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That's because most union type jobs are being moved to China, Malaysia, India, etc.

Labor is cheaper elsewhere without adaquate tariffs in a global free trade society.
 
Lord of Planar said:
That's because most union type jobs are being moved to China, Malaysia, India, etc.

Labor is cheaper elsewhere without adaquate tariffs in a global free trade society.
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And I'm in full favor of high tariffs to protect American workers.

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phattonez said:
And what's been the benefit?

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Unions destroyed whole industries in America with their overpriced union junk. Now that they are gone there is more emphasis on making quality products at competitive prices. This helps employment. 1+1 = 2
 
phattonez said:
And I'm in full favor of high tariffs to protect American workers.

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Protecting workers from competition makes our workers second rate and ultimately makes our country second rate, poorer, and subject to military conquest.Do you understand these simple basics?
 
Lord of Planar said:
That's because most union type jobs are being moved to China, Malaysia, India, etc.

Labor is cheaper elsewhere without adaquate tariffs in a global free trade society.
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obviously if labor was the only factor everything would be manufactured in low-wage countries. We have 97% employment because we compete very well. We would have rapidly rising wages if it were not for liberal taxes unions regulations trade deals and 30 million illegals driving our wages down . How many times do you have to learn this before it sticks with you?
 
James972 said:
Unions destroyed whole industries in America with their overpriced union junk. Now that they are gone there is more emphasis on making quality products at competitive prices. This helps employment. 1+1 = 2
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Which is more contemporaneous with that decline? Union growth or free trade?

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James972 said:
Protecting workers from competition makes our workers second rate and ultimately makes our country second rate, poorer, and subject to military conquest.Do you understand these simple basics?
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We can be conquered less easily if we're more dependent on foreign nations? Explain.

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