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The Case for the Maximum Wage (Part 1)

I think this is an interesting idea. I wish there were a way to experiment with ideas like this in a local setting.

I think that is impossible.

And it will take a long, long time - after 200 years - of making Americans believe that there is in the sky a limit to Income. I doubt most even understand the concept of Income Disparity or, worse yet, have ever even heard of it.

But, who knows - if push ever came to shove ... ?
 
I think that the initial pile is what people work hard for. How much do you think Bill Gates actually produced for $billions #2 to #60?

I agree. Most those who work beyond that "initial pile" are fanatics striving to see how further they can get since the last guy set the record.

It's an ego-trip well-known in the male of our species ...
 
Part 2 (A bit late due to internet problems)…

The Income Disparity wreckage is evident throughout the United States. It is to such a point as to be undermining the very solidity of the nation. The reasons some sectors of the population inflame, particularly during a hot-summer, is because of the dire economic prospects of those who live in them. …

How did we come to this situation? Historically it goes back to JFK - but it was LBJ who signed a reduction of upper-income taxation. Johnson, who had some very rich friends in Texas and wanted to get elected on his own - so he signed the bill in effect paving the way down from 90% to 70% in reduction. It bought him the presidency....

For the longest time Income Taxation was thought to be anti-constitutional (which pleased America's richest class) - until 1913, when the 16th amendment to the Constitution instituted the Income Tax in the US.

1) Should you pause to breath, in your otherwise breathless screed, you might note the premise of moral depravity in your complaint.

There are two kinds of left-wing motivation: the first being compassion for those who don't make enough for a secure and rewarding life.

The second kind is nothing more than raging envy of those who make a lot more money than you. Demands for a limit on maximum income has nothing to do with compassion, it has to do with a deep character flaw rooted in jealousy, anger, and a need to punish.

2. You're repeating a tiresome error that has become a cliché. As has been pointed out by economists and accountants for many decades the published tax rates were not the REAL tax rates. Why that important fact can't find lodgment in any liberal's long term memory is so bizarre that it screams for a neurological study of the syndrome.

3) Income disparity does not necessitate summer riots, not unless one encourages and facilitates the sin of envy among the masses - you know, someone like you.

4) The current gap in income inequality has nothing to do with tax rates; it is the widening gap in PRETAX income that has driven increased inequality. Bluestone suggested ten factors: technology, trade, a shift from manufacturing to services, deregulation, declining unionization, downsizing, winner-take-all labor markets, capital mobility, immigration, and trade deficits.

To the degree it needs "cured", feel free to tinker with any of them and see how it effects (or effected) the American people.

5) The challenge of a maximum tax rate is that one cannot change the distribution of earned income without effecting the incentives for work and investment. A society wherein the maximum income is, for example, 100,000 per year would radically alter economic production and distribution, not for the better.

All that said, there is a part of me that would delight in giving the left what they want, good and hard (say a max of 100K a year). Imagine how the 6 figure federal employee, and tenured faculty, would wail. And the Hollywood celebs? Just to hear their hypocritical screams might make it worthwhile.
 
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I agree. Most those who work beyond that "initial pile" are fanatics striving to see how further they can get since the last guy set the record.

It's an ego-trip well-known in the male of our species ...

I think it's more likely that they are just benefiting from their initial work being bought up, or going public, growing, etc.

I doubt that Bill Gates, billionaire, has done much coding since he got Microsoft rolling.
 
Those do not just sit in the bank. do you not realize this? the bank loans those funds out. Please learn how our banking system operates.
the government bonds is money loaned to the government. The government then takes that money and uses it for what it needs too. The
money just doesn't sit there and do nothing.

And there it is. The Mistake That Won't Die.

Banks do not lend out deposits. Please learn how our banking system actually operates.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/m...2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf
 
And there it is. The Mistake That Won't Die.

Banks do not lend out deposits. Please learn how our banking system actually operates.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/m...2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf

We are not the Bank of England.
Please looking up fractional banking.
That is the system that we use.

Again I have already proven you have no idea what you are talking about.

If you think the bank keeps your money in the vault on hand you are mistaken.
 
I think this is an interesting idea. I wish there were a way to experiment with ideas like this in a local setting.

These systems have all been tried.
They do not work. They have failed and left death and destruction in their wake of the people subjecgated
To such a system.
 
We are not the Bank of England.

All banks work this way.

Please looking up fractional banking.
That is the system that we use.

I already have. I also looked up the credit creation system and the loanable funds system. Like every other major economy, our banks use a credit creation system.

Again I have already proven you have no idea what you are talking about.

On the contrary, you have proven, over and over, that it is you that is clueless. This last post is just another nail in your intellectual coffin.

If you think the bank keeps your money in the vault on hand you are mistaken.

I understand that they certainly do not keep our deposits in the vault. Now, knowing that much, please explain how banks lend out our deposits, in detail. Use some accounting, too. You know, assets and liabilities, etc.
 
When Income Excess must be avoided in any nation, progressive taxation arriving at 100% any revenue beyond a preposterous amount* is highly recommended.

Otherwise it leads to "unfortunate circumstances" - as Russia found out all by itself in 1917. And China a bit later.

(Ever read any history ... ?)



Yes.

*And I figure 2 megabucks a year income is indeed preposterous in today's America. (Of course, most of my fellow Yanks would consider it a Red Badge of Courage. Bleeding hearts that they are!) Especially with 40 million fellow Americans living below the Poverty Threshold.
You can't define you own terms that is another loss.

Yes russia found out exactly how bad income capping is up until 1985.
Yep income capping in china has been devastating to the people their.

Thanks for ruining your argument by citing the two best examples of how bad income capping is.
Unless you work for the government that is doing the capping. It didn't apply to them.
 
We are not the Bank of England.
Please looking up fractional banking.
That is the system that we use.

Again I have already proven you have no idea what you are talking about.

If you think the bank keeps your money in the vault on hand you are mistaken.

Are you bowing out of this debate? Admitting that your understanding of banking is fatally flawed? Still waiting for your explanation of banking.
 
Are you bowing out of this debate? Admitting that your understanding of banking is fatally flawed? Still waiting for your explanation of banking.

Nope. I am simply not wasting my time with you.
I have shown you site after site that explains how our banking system and how the federal reserve works.
You refuse to educate yourself and remain ignorant. Spouting the same wrong thing time after time.

So there is no need to rehash it again with you. You were wrong then and are still wrong now.
Back back when you understand what reserve/fraction banking is. That is the system that we use.
 
Nope. I am simply not wasting my time with you.
I have shown you site after site that explains how our banking system and how the federal reserve works.
You refuse to educate yourself and remain ignorant. Spouting the same wrong thing time after time.

So there is no need to rehash it again with you. You were wrong then and are still wrong now.
Back back when you understand what reserve/fraction banking is. That is the system that we use.

Translation: you can't explain how the banking system works, and you don't want to make yourself look even more foolish by trying.

if you understand our banking system and the way our money works income disparity is not an issue.

Hah!
 
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