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How does Libertarianism address the problem of systemic racism?

Soopairik said:
So what's your idea on how we can change it?
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right in front of your eyes look at the me too movement. Its grass roots bottom up not libnazi down!!
 
Soopairik said:
LibnazI? You serious?
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huge change right in front of your eyes, look at the me too movement. Its grass roots bottom up not libcommie down!!
 
James972 said:
huge change right in front of your eyes, look at the me too movement. Its grass roots bottom up not libcommie down!!
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You don't need to resort to ad hominem to prove a point.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
The whole philosophy of Libertarianism is built on the idea that we can prosper if the government gets out of the way. But how will that address systemic racism? Systemic racism is ubiquitous and is entrenched in the lives of people of color from the time their born, all through their education, and in institutions like criminal justice and housing and such. There's nothing the free market can do to undo the massive structural inequities that our in our society.
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Freedom of association. If there is systemic racism in our shared institutions, then parallel institutions are the only alternative.
 
phattonez said:
Freedom of association. If there is systemic racism in our shared institutions, then parallel institutions are the only alternative.
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racism will disappear in our institutions when it disappears in us!!
 
Soopairik said:
Attitude.
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the liberal thinks its not serious because, attitude. What on earth does the mean? If the liberal has any idea why not tell us too?
 
James972 said:
you said "nothign people[libertarians] suggest would address bigotry. It would thrive under stereotypical libertarianism."

you made insane assumption that govt elites know what's best and people don't so govt must use violence to make people think and act properly ie without bigotry. This is exactly opposite assumption our genius Founders made as they created greatest country in human history by far. Welcome to your first lesson in American History. Do you understand the lesson?
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Again, what you are claiming simply was never said by me. Lying about it won't change anything. Welcome to your first lesson about posting lies and thinking you can get away with it. Do you understand the lesson. ;)
 
LaylaWindu said:
Again, what you are claiming simply was never said by me. Lying about it won't change anything. Welcome to your first lesson about posting lies and thinking you can get away with it. Do you understand the lesson. ;)
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you said, "It [bigotry]would thrive under stereotypical libertarianism."
 
James972 said:
you said, "It [bigotry]would thrive under stereotypical libertarianism."
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Yep, thats what I said.Thank you for agreeing with that fact. What I didn't say is "govt elites know what's best and people don't so govt must use violence to make people think and act properly"
 
LaylaWindu said:
Yep, thats what I said.Thank you for agreeing with that fact. What I didn't say is "govt elites know what's best and people don't so govt must use violence to make people think and act properly"
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so then why not tell us what type of govt would prevent bigotry from thriving???
 
James972 said:
so then why not tell us what type of govt would prevent bigotry from thriving???
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As soon as you can tell us where I claimed a government would prevent bigotry and quote it. Oh wait . . that's another thing I never said. Looks like another swing and a miss for you.
 
LaylaWindu said:
As soon as you can tell us where I claimed a government would prevent bigotry and quote it. Oh wait . . that's another thing I never said. Looks like another swing and a miss for you.
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well if someone says bigotry would thrive under libertarianism you assume that someone feels it would not thrive under a more intensive governmental regime??
 
James972 said:
well if someone says bigotry would thrive under libertarianism you assume that someone feels it would not thrive under a more intensive governmental regime??
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So your answer is no, you can not show me saying what you illogically assumed. Glad you can admit you made it up. ANd to answer your question, no, nobody objective leaps to illogical overly dramatic conclusions like that.
"an intensive governmental regime" is not the next step above stereotypical liberalism hahaha good god you are funny.
 
LaylaWindu said:
So your answer is no, you can not show me saying what you illogically assumed. Glad you can admit you made it up. ANd to answer your question, no, nobody objective leaps to illogical overly dramatic conclusions like that.
"an intensive governmental regime" is not the next step above stereotypical liberalism hahaha good god you are funny.
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why not cut the BS and tell us why you say bigotry would thrive under libertarianism, and tell us the environment in which it would not thrive.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
The whole philosophy of Libertarianism is built on the idea that we can prosper if the government gets out of the way. But how will that address systemic racism? Systemic racism is ubiquitous and is entrenched in the lives of people of color from the time their born, all through their education, and in institutions like criminal justice and housing and such. There's nothing the free market can do to undo the massive structural inequities that our in our society.
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Really?




https://www.cato.org/blog/libertarianism-individualism-racism
 
James972 said:
what would have been a logical assumption??
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To simply go by what I said, its context and not leap of the deep end with illogical dramatic assumptions.

James972 said:
why not cut the BS and tell us why you say bigotry would thrive under libertarianism, and tell us the environment in which it would not thrive.
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Well you would have to stop with the BS first. Are you ready to stop? I answered the OP and you are trying, and failing, to invent something else.
And bigotry would thrive has history proves because it there's nothing in place to protect peoples rights and to persuade people from treating others as 2nd class citizens this type of behavior runs rampant.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
The whole philosophy of Libertarianism is built on the idea that we can prosper if the government gets out of the way. But how will that address systemic racism? Systemic racism is ubiquitous and is entrenched in the lives of people of color from the time their born, all through their education, and in institutions like criminal justice and housing and such. There's nothing the free market can do to undo the massive structural inequities that our in our society.
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so a libNazi central govt can intervene to eliminate racism??
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
There's nothing the free market can do to undo the massive structural inequities that our in our society.
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in a free market money talks so a free market will care far less about skin color than in a racist society with a racist government. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
in a free market money talks so a free market will care far less about skin color than in a racist society with a racist government. Do you understand?
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History proves you wrong and so does current events.
 
What can we do beyond affecting change at the local level? Marching with protesters in the streets and such... making voices heard... etc. The usual thing peaceful people do to challenge corrupt establishments responsible for systemic racism in the first place.
 
LaylaWindu said:
History proves you wrong and so does current events.
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if it proves me wrong why are you so afraid to present your evidence? What have you learned from your fear?
 
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