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Who wins and loses in Trump's tax plan?

Furthermore, just to dig the knife in further: I sent my kids to university here in France for a yearly tuition cost that was less than 1000€ (about the amount in dollars) plus room-'n-board. The government picked up the tab for the tuition, just like it does in most of the rest of Europe.

Now, you tell me what's wrong with government sponsored Tertiary-education ...
 
THE HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY



Perhaps that's the way you "read" what I said through warped-reasoning.

I said this:
*A postsecondary-level educational degree is necessary nowadays for a decent job at decent pay.
*Said education at the very least costs around $10K per year

LOL, it's the height of hypocrisy to accurately describe your claims?

Regardless, my point stands. Your claims here are incorrect; people do perfectly well (and even fantastically well) without a college degree

Even at a vocational-school (less than year) some cannot afford the lesser cost. At a two-year associates-degree, it is beyond question for most of the poor.
*"Oh, but they can get scholarships!" Some do. But, nope, not enough to go around.

Millions go unclaimed every year, IIRC. I had a friend in high school who managed to put together $500,000 in offered scholarships, simply by treating application as a job. Moreover, you can work - and in fact, those who work part time do better than those who don't.

And, as I did, you can get college paid for by the government in a variety of ways.

*Eight percent of high-schoolers do not graduate! Of those who do graduate, only about 45/50% are obtaining any post-graduate degree. That's somewhere less than half the kids in HighSchool who go on to complete their educational training.

College is not a requirement to complete educational training, and in many cases, it proves an expensive waste of time and effort.

There are alternatives. The most tempting of which is duty in a military-service with the promise of degree-cost reimbusements once duty is completed. (And if one does not come home in a bodybag!)
*Which is the height of hypocrisy for many of us.


I think you have "hypocrisy" confused with "things I don't like". The GI Bill is a fine way to pay for college, as is the free tuition they offer you while you are in active duty. If I was going to cost the taxpayer money, it makes perfect sense that I work for them for it.

Nobody, but nobody, should be obliged to risk their lives simply to obtain a Tertiary-level Education necessary to have a relative good middle-class existence for them and their families.

:shrug: no one is - we have no draft. Nor is a college degree necessary to have a middle class existence.
 
Furthermore, just to dig the knife in further: I sent my kids to university here in France for a yearly tuition cost that was less than 1000€ (about the amount in dollars) plus room-'n-board. The government picked up the tab for the tuition, just like it does in most of the rest of Europe.

Now, you tell me what's wrong with government sponsored Tertiary-education ...

If everyone had a college degree then there would still be lower (and higher) paying jobs. Many complain about the pay that teachers or nurses get yet those jobs require degrees. Rest assured that a good mechanic, welder, electrician, plumber or HVAC specialist can make a very good living and few of them have college degrees.
 
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