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IMF Downgrades 2017 and 2018 US Economy

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So tax cuts do boost the economy. Glad you libs are finally on board with that.
 
So tax cuts do boost the economy. Glad you libs are finally on board with that.

Seems so.

He added that Donald Trump’s failure so far to push through his promised package of tax cuts had dampened US growth prospects.

“From a global growth perspective, the most important downgrade is the United States,” he said. “Over the next two years, US growth should remain above its longer-run potential growth rate. But we have reduced our forecasts for both 2017 and 2018 to 2.1% because near-term US fiscal policy looks less likely to be expansionary than we believed in April.”

Three months ago, the IMF said it expected growth in the world’s biggest economy to be 2.3% this year and 2.5% next.
 
Seems so.

I predicted this last year when the markets were spiking. I said that a lot of it was dependent on
Trumps tax plan getting pushed through. If it wasn't going to get done you would see the market react accordingly.
 
Not a surprise. The isolationism and nationalism in economics will damage the US economy.
 
Not a surprise. The isolationism and nationalism in economics will damage the US economy.

What's not a surprise is that you didn't bother to read the article.
 
So tax cuts do boost the economy. Glad you libs are finally on board with that.

Read the article. This is an operative quote:
“From a global growth perspective, the most important downgrade is the United States,” he said. “Over the next two years, US growth should remain above its longer-run potential growth rate. But we have reduced our forecasts for both 2017 and 2018 to 2.1% because near-term US fiscal policy looks less likely to be expansionary than we believed in April.”
That's silent on tax-cuts but bearish on spending in general. Trump's initial spending plan (one can hardly call it a budget) called for massive spending cuts, with the exception of military.
 
I predicted this last year when the markets were spiking. I said that a lot of it was dependent on
Trumps tax plan getting pushed through. If it wasn't going to get done you would see the market react accordingly.
The idea that tax-cuts boosts economies is a myth. We can use the example of Bush on the federal level and Kansas on the state level to display that. Both cut taxes drastically and both had lackluster growth and job creation.
 
The idea that tax-cuts boosts economies is a myth. We can use the example of Bush on the federal level and Kansas on the state level to display that. Both cut taxes drastically and both had lackluster growth and job creation.

Bush counters your argument 100%.

there is nothing in kansas.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxana...t-not-that-all-tax-cuts-are-bad/#69ca29914a81

you are jumping to conclusions but that is typical.
good you give the government the majority of your money and see how much you have left to spend.
there is diminishing returns on either end of the spectrum and anyone with any kind of commonsense realizes this.

there is no myth about it the more money people and businesses have the more they spend.
the less they have the less they spend. this is just general fact.

Even if they save it the money is still spent into the economy by loans.
 
Bush counters your argument 100%.

there is nothing in kansas.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/taxana...t-not-that-all-tax-cuts-are-bad/#69ca29914a81

you are jumping to conclusions but that is typical.
good you give the government the majority of your money and see how much you have left to spend.
there is diminishing returns on either end of the spectrum and anyone with any kind of commonsense realizes this.

there is no myth about it the more money people and businesses have the more they spend.
the less they have the less they spend. this is just general fact.

Even if they save it the money is still spent into the economy by loans.

Bush counters my argument 100%? I would refine that definition:

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Bush counters my argument 100%? I would refine that definition:

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you also ignore 2 recessions 9/11 and the accounting scandal that happened in that period as well.
that would have major impacts on growth. if you look at the period after the first recession.
the economy was doing very well up until the 2nd expansion.

but when do facts matter.

Reagan shows plenty and then clinton learned the hard way and started lowering taxes to bad it was
too late.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charle...t-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/#73e920cb6e8a
 
you also ignore 2 recessions 9/11 and the accounting scandal that happened in that period as well.
that would have major impacts on growth. if you look at the period after the first recession.
the economy was doing very well up until the 2nd expansion.

but when do facts matter.

Reagan shows plenty and then clinton learned the hard way and started lowering taxes to bad it was
too late.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charle...t-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/#73e920cb6e8a
I hear your but, but, but. The reality is that Clinton raised taxes and, contrary to what the GOP leaders predicted, the economy boomed.
The GOP predicted that Obama policies would result in high inflation, high interest rates and deepen the recession.
The GOP is notoriously wrong.
 
I hear your but, but, but. The reality is that Clinton raised taxes and, contrary to what the GOP leaders predicted, the economy boomed.
The GOP predicted that Obama policies would result in high inflation, high interest rates and deepen the recession.
The GOP is notoriously wrong.

I guess you didn't read the article go figure on that one.
have a nice day.

Obama is not anyone to point at. he had the worst recovery of any president ever.
a lot of that had to do with his economic policies or lack there of.
 
I guess you didn't read the article go figure on that one.
have a nice day.

Obama is not anyone to point at. he had the worst recovery of any president ever.
a lot of that had to do with his economic policies or lack there of.

Below is real GDP growth during the Bush and Obama administrations. The performance of the Obama years, excluding the severe recession, has a steeper upward slope tha Bush. So, how do you conclude that Obama had poor economic performance?

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Seems so.

Not really. Read here (from the Atlantic, 2012): Tax Cuts Don't Lead to Economic Growth, a New 65-Year Study Finds

First an infographic (from the above site):
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Then an excerpt:
In 1990, President George H. W. Bush raised taxes, and GDP growth increased over the next five years. In 1993, President Bill Clinton raised the top marginal tax rate, and GDP growth increased over the next five years. In 2001 and 2003, President Bush cut taxes, and we faced a disappointing expansion followed by a Great Recession.

Does this story prove that raising taxes helps GDP? No. Does it prove that cutting taxes hurts GDP? No.

But it does suggest that there is a lot more to an economy than taxes, and that slashing taxes is not a guaranteed way to accelerate economic growth.

That ... was precisely the finding of a new study from the Congressional Research Service, "Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945."

Analysis of six decades of data found that top tax rates "have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth." However, the study found that reductions of capital gains taxes and top marginal rate taxes have led to greater income inequality. Past studies cited in the report have suggested that a broad-based tax rate reduction can have "a small to modest, positive effect on economic growth" or "no effect on economic growth."

Well into the 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was above 90%. Today it's 35%. But both real GDP and real per capita GDP were growing more than twice as fast in the 1950s as in the 2000s. At the same time, the average tax rate paid by the top tenth of a percent fell from about 50% to 25% in the last 60 years, while their share of income increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% before the recession.


Here's what tax-cuts bring to the economy (especially the upper 0.1%):
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Is the above what you want - 0.1% of our population that obtains as much of the national wealth as the other 90%?

Because that's what you get. Make no mistake about it ...
 
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MY POINT?

Some "old dogs" die hard. The notion that reducing taxation automatically increases Consumption (and therefore jobs) is erroneous.

Donald Dork is reducing upper-income taxation because he is kneeling at the altar of Replicant Gods. Foremost of those Gods is low taxation, and the consequence being the infographic shown above. As if they weren't getting enough already of the nation's Wealth!

I keep repeating the same point: Yes, a market-economy based upon Supply&Demand works best when "incentivated". But America went off the deep-end when Reckless Ronnie inthe 1980s hacked-down upper income taxation (see here) - which caused the massive shift upwards in Wealth that goes to the upper-class, shown in the infographic posted earlier.

Do they need it? No. So, who gets it? Their kids.

My point is this. That upper-income revenue, if more highly taxed (at above 90%, as it once was), could have two profound effects:
*It could have helped fund Hillary and Bernie's proposal for free, post-secondary education that will do far, far more to provide better salaries to people entering the work-force.
*It will reduce the mad-rush to riches that typifies the American nation. Everybody wants to get-rich-quick. Some do, most don't - and it is the latter (America's lowest classes) who live most miserably.

But, no. We had to elect Donald Dork and here we are with President KnowNothing spending his time tweeting asinine remarks to all and sundry instead of doing his job. He will now kiss-ass by reducing already low upper income taxation - some of the lowest of any developed nation.

He will nevertheless go down as the worst PotUS in modern-history and he deserves it.

So do we ...
 
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Trump incompetence has caused the IMF to lower projections for the US economy.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...growth-forecasts-uk-us-economy-trump-tax-cuts

Who knew the IMF would be able to see into the near future? Back before July, they figured out that Trump's economic policy would face resistance from his own Republican-controlled legislature.

Perhaps those GOP and Dem Elites, who are globalist in nature and bound by lobbyist dollars, should be taking heed of the IMF's predictions and get back to actually governing for the benefit of their constituents instead of for the benefit of their big-money benefactors.
 
Not really. Read here (from the Atlantic, 2012): Tax Cuts Don't Lead to Economic Growth, a New 65-Year Study Finds

First an infographic (from the above site):
Screen%20Shot%202012-09-16%20at%2011.15.58%20AM-thumb-340x466-98936.png


Then an excerpt:


Here's what tax-cuts bring to the economy (especially the upper 0.1%):
20141108_FNC156.png


Is the above what you want - 0.1% of our population that obtains as much of the national wealth as the other 90%?

Because that's what you get. Make no mistake about it ...

Apparently you didn't read the story linked in the OP. Oh, well.
 
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