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    Re: Let's talk about Unions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    My goal is eliminate public sector unions from existence.
    and private sector unions too?

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    Re: Let's talk about Unions.

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    and private sector unions too?
    Sure, although private sector unions seem to be doing an adequate job eliminating themselves, but yeah, let's get rid of them too while we're at it. Right To Work being law of the land will be half the battle. Alternatively we could just repeal 15 U.S. Code 17 and, poof, they'd be gone. I.e., they would be relegated to voluntary legal defense funds that employees could participate in for the purpose of getting assistance applying to state labor boards regarding grievances, and/or they would be actual firms that would be subject to competitive bidding (and antitrust regulations) for the projects they want, like all other firms.

    There is nothing a labor union can do, or should be allowed to do, concerning compensation and conditions of employment, that couldn't be simply written into law by the government itself.

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    Re: Let's talk about Unions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Not sure what this prattle is about. You don't like the word cartel, even though it describes precisely the fundamental nature of labor unions. That's your issue.

    My goal isn't to cure your denial about terminology. My goal is eliminate public sector unions from existence.
    Poor thing. As a sickness, I am sure it is curable.

    Get help ...
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    Re: Let's talk about Unions.

    Each next post from you has less content than the one before it. I've shared basic facts and you do nothing but squirm with discomfort.

    1) Employers can already decide all by themselves to stop agreeing to union security clauses.
    2) Janus v. AFSCME may well cause Right To Work to be law of the land, thereby gutting public sector unions (FDR would have celebrated the decision)
    3) Private sector unions cannot survive in this country anymore, as global competition and automation will simply crush them, and already has, really.
    4) 15 U.S. Code 17 is the section which, if repealed, would put an end to labor unions' coercive monopoly powers effective immediately.

    The labor movement was a movement, like women's suffrage and civil rights. The labor cartels of today are not "a movement." They're an institution of cartels, plain and simple. There was a labor movement a long time ago which fought back against bad behavior. But movements end, because laws are passed that correct egregious injustices on which the movements are based. And that's great. Movements are good because they typically cause laws to be passed which address the bad behavior. Egregious injustices are corrected by government and its lawmaking power. There is no need or justification for cartels to exist which restrict competition, entry into markets, use monopoly powers to coerce buyers, and coerce sellers into their membership.

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