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How Wall Street is killing capitalism

DifferentDrummr said:
I rarely insult people, grasshopper. Instead, most of the time I insult their behavior, which is what I do in my signature.

People are capable of making changes to their own behavior. Perhaps you should consider such a course.
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actually you fail in understanding something and speeding your wheels.

you make a posting to convey a message, but the question is to who?

what are you attempting to achieve?

since you have alienated many people who are not going to read your OP, because you have turned them off.

so you are really posting things to a small group and not achieving much of anything.
 
Master PO said:
actually you fail in understanding something and speeding your wheels.

you make a posting to convey a message, but the question is to who?

what are you attempting to achieve?

since you have alienated many people who are not going to read your OP, because you have turned them off.

so you are really posting things to a small group and not achieving much of anything.
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violent personal attack is the basis for liberalism. Drummer does this because as a typical liberal he cant mount a substantive attack. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
all in the works and he'll certainly come closer than Hillary who opposed them all!! Next.

Notice how as a typical liberal you've got nothing but violent personal attack and no substance??
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There's a mountain of evidence that Trump is both a narcissist and a con artist. You just pretend it doesn't exist. Next.
 
Master PO said:
actually you fail in understanding something and speeding your wheels.

you make a posting to convey a message, but the question is to who?

what are you attempting to achieve?

since you have alienated many people who are not going to read your OP, because you have turned them off.

so you are really posting things to a small group and not achieving much of anything.
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I am simply voicing my opinions, not saving the world. The same statement could be made of you.
 
Master PO said:
yes you are making your opinion known, however you narrow your prospects of people listening by turning people off
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As do you, with your condescension, deeply flawed reasoning, and intransigence.

Besides, if one tries to please everybody, one pleases nobody.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
As do you, with your condescension, deeply flawed reasoning, and intransigence.

Besides, if one tries to please everybody, one pleases nobody.
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well its not question of pleasing someone, its one of speaking to people, not getting into emotion and using truth and law.
 
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DifferentDrummr said:
There's a mountain of evidence that Trump is both a narcissist and a con artist. You just pretend it doesn't exist. Next.
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even if true a Republican narcissist who gets the wall, taxes, jobs, healthcare etc is 100% better than a liberal. Don't forget, our Founders identified liberalism as the source of evil in human history!! Spying for Stalin and giving him the bomb while he was slowly starving 60 million human souls to death and electing Obama/Sanders is not exactly a portrait of psychological health.
 
James972 said:
even if true a Republican narcissist who gets the wall, taxes, jobs, healthcare etc is 100% better than a liberal. Don't forget, our Founders identified liberalism as the source of evil in human history!! Spying for Stalin and giving him the bomb while he was slowly starving 60 million human souls to death and electing Obama/Sanders is not exactly a portrait of psychological health.
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There's no way you can find a quote to support that.
 
all you need to do is ask ANY Conservative/Republican & they will tell US that everything is great; lots-O-money 'cause we got Nvestments

it's all about money; nuthin' else matters baby

CRASH ............
 
cuban smokes said:
all you need to do is ask ANY Conservative/Republican & they will tell US that everything is great; lots-O-money 'cause we got Nvestments

it's all about money; nuthin' else matters baby

CRASH ............
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It's been going on since the 1920s. You'd think they'd learn...
 
DifferentDrummr said:
It's been going on since the 1920s. You'd think they'd learn...
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it is AMAZING how GREEDY these people are; it's like too much just aint ****ing enuff

Both of my parents were born & raised during the Great Depression, they both grew up in rural America on small family farms, and they both went to bed hungry at times

there is a lot more to life than money, which by the way there is nothing wrong with money but having money be your master is just wrong IMO

these GOP folk are just so damn Hell bent on making their next dollar, and that is beside wanting to go to war with the planet at large, telling others how to live their lives, attempts at social engineering; these conservatives are a scary bunch, no doubt

do they even have a soul?

having some humility & being a human actually means something, and that aint about your GD stock portfolio & how much GD money you can accumulate ..................
 
DifferentDrummr said:
My mistake: I mean that communism doesn't work on a national scale; with actual communes, it can work very well. And yes, many nations that call themselves communist are not. China is a perfect example.
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Agreed that would require a well aducated population with a very small gap between rich and poor and an end to superstitious groups who wish to manipulate others with their death cults.. A condition that has never been reached so far.

I'll address that in a moment.
Anyone in the supply chain can try to manipulate the market. Regulation can either put a stop to it or encourage it.
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Yet i could demonstrate more examples of it being encouraged than stopped. The bendy banana lasted decades before they finally got rid of it.

Indeed, but human psychology is fairly well understood, and doesn't change much over time. So you can certainly make a case that human decision making itself acts like a natural force.
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It is the very fact that we do have a good understanding that allows decision making to be manipulated. Business is not in the habit of throwing good money after bad and they do spend billions to advertise. They would not do so if they could not manipulate the way people think.
Usually that's incidental. Most civil wars are fought for reasons other than to make a buck in food trafficking.
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True but those creating civil wars are also not the ones who profit from distributing food. And profit is the reason for distributing food, not some hippy like benevolence for the poor.

Absolutely.


Socialism has many other motives besides regulating trade. And (although I'm pretty sure you weren't implying this) socialism is not an either/or proposition
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You only have to read the often written remark by many americans here to understand that they associate socialism with a centralised single party dictatorship. To them socialism means that everything is owned by the government. Again, nothing more than mccarthyist propaganda.
 
Master PO said:
the only people who get tuned off by truth or law is those who either cannot deal with it, or wish to cast it aside
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Or those who demonstrate their limited grasp of issues by contributing in a "debate forum" with sarcastic one-liner rants of no real significance whatsoever ...
 
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DifferentDrummr said:
It's been going on since the 1920s. You'd think they'd learn...
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How can anyone "learn" when they are devoid of "wisdom"?

The Far Right and even the Right-of-center have never ever shown in any real grasp of a market-economy and Income Fairness. Their sole ambition is - with the advent in the 1980s of Reckless Ronnie's trashing of Upper-income Taxation levels - to grab-'n-run as much as they can. (Didn't happen? See here.)

Then they participate in blogs (like this one) from their mansions on Palm Beach or the Caymans overlooking the seaside decrying Social Democracy (that would reinstitute fair and honest upper-income taxation) as a "commie-plot".

The rip-off of Wealth in America is there because of the Reagan-era taxation inducement to do so (15/20% of taxation due to tax-boondoggles like "carried interest")! And the consequence of such widespread taxation-thievery looks like this :
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And so some Americans have a heavy motivation to "take the money and run"! Which they do.

Whilst we, the sheeple, have kids that join the military service induced by a promise to pay their postsecondary degree-fees - if they get out alive.

America's graveyards are full of these kids* ...*

*See following entry to this comment)
 
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"America's Dead Kids in Foreign Wars"

To research the number of people who died in foreign wars the task is laborious, but the data is not hidden.

In fact, it is to be found here in this pdf from the Congressional Research Service, titled "American War and Military Operations - Casualties: Lists and Statistics"

The casualty resumés are consolidated in tables for each war/conflict, and name-lists of the dead are to be found in each specific table for each conflict.

Table 4 (on page 7) tells us that "U.S. Active Duty Military Deaths" have numbered between just-less-than-one and two thousand "every-year" from 1980 to 2010. Yes, have a look!

PS: I find it fitting that their names should not be forgot, in as much as I refuse to believe that armed conflict is at all necessary unless the US is attacked expressly and specifically ...
 
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Lafayette said:
...The Far Right and even the Right-of-center have never ever shown in any real grasp of a market-economy and Income Fairness. Their sole ambition is - with the advent in the 1980s of Reckless Ronnie's trashing of Upper-income Taxation levels - to grab-'n-run as much as they can. (Didn't happen? See here.)

Then they participate in blogs (like this one) from their mansions on Palm Beach or the Caymans overlooking the seaside decrying Social Democracy (that would reinstitute fair and honest upper-income taxation) as a "commie-plot".
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Actually, they don't even bother to do that. They hire stooges like Steve Bannon to do it for them.
 
Lafayette said:
reinstitute fair and honest upper-income taxation) as a "commie-plot".
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fair is when everyone pays the same for govt just like they pay the same at McDonalds whether they are rich or poor. Why should the top 1% pay 44% of all taxes instead of 1% of all taxes?
 
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DifferentDrummr said:
They hire stooges like Steve Bannon to do it for them.
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ah, the typical liberal is back to adolescent name calling. What a surprise. Can the liberal say anything substantive against his basic conservative ideas or is that asking far too much of a typical liberal who considers name calling meaningful??
 
cuban smokes said:
there is a lot more to life than money,
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can you say why you think Democrats are more aware of this than Republicans or did you just make it up????
 
James972 said:
can you say why you think Democrats are more aware of this than Republicans or did you just make it up????
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I know it to be true IMO from my own experience, knowing the people I have known over the course of my life, knowing the political leanings of these people

it is an interesting thing; it's not black & white, there is some gray area but generally it holds water pretty well viewed from my perspective
 
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