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Gender wage gap costs minority women more than $1m in some states

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[FONT=&quot]Black and Latino women will lose more than $877,000 and $1m respectively over a 40-year career compared to their white male counterparts, according to [/FONT]a report[FONT=&quot]by the National Women’s Law Center (NWLC).[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
The report, which breaks down the gender wage gap by race and state, found that in 2014, Latina women earned between 54 and 55 cents for every dollar that white men made. This amounts to a 40-year career wage gap of $1,007,080 on average. Latina women lose more than a million dollars over their careers in 23 states, including the District of Columbia where the gap is highest at $1,781,720.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“A big driver of the wage gap is the gap in opportunities that push Latinas and African American women into different occupations than white men. Latina women and African American women are over-represented in low-wage jobs, for example, and under-represented in high-paying occupations like law and engineering,” said Emily Martin, vice-president for workplace justice at NWLC.


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I wonder what Oprah thinks of this?
 
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I suspect that it is less of an injustice than conventionally thought and politically correct to say. I did calculations on the cost/risk differential between men and women and between minorities and general public. A difference in wage is usually quite justified. How large the gap should be economically is dependent on regulation and laws, but most countries have adopted laws that also reduce the probability of a woman and especially a minority woman find a job at all.
 
"Here's an example of a rich minority woman, I guess the problem doesn't exist!"
She wasn't always rich...born to a single mom in Mississippi and sexually abused as a teenager.

She overcame that so anything is possible.
 
I see nothing biased about the source. :roll:

I would bother going over the data, but yeah, the source is crap.
 
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:doh

How many times does this idiotic myth need to be debunked.



ATTENTION ALL LEFT WINGERS

WARNING:

IF YOU GO INTO A LOWER-PAID PROFESSION, TAKE TIME OFF FROM BUILDING YOUR CAREER, AND THEN PRIORITIZE YOUR CAREER LESS THAN OTHER THINGS IN YOUR LIFE,

YOU WILL END UP GETTING PAID LESS THAN PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE OPPOSITE CHOICE ON THOSE ITEMS.


THANK YOU
 
bull****

same job?

same education?

same experience?

bull ****ing ****

From my experience these gender gap attempts by these biased organizations are never done by comparing things equally.
 
She wasn't always rich...born to a single mom in Mississippi and sexually abused as a teenager.

She overcame that so anything is possible.

So because Oprah did it all minority women could do it if they just tried hard enough? We're just going to completely ignore all other aspects and facts of the problem and just write it off as lack of effort?
 
So because Oprah did it all minority women could do it if they just tried hard enough? We're just going to completely ignore all other aspects and facts of the problem and just write it off as lack of effort?

Well, yeah.
 
I'll let this wonderful lady explain the gender wage gap:




 
I wonder what Oprah thinks of this?

Who in his/her right mind cares what Oprah thinks about Income Disparity ... ?

Zillionaires have no opinion in the matter of any consequence. They are benefitting from the gross Income Disparity caused by America's recklessly unfair upper-income flat-rate taxation.

They will pass their wealth on to their inheritors who did nothing to earn it, and in that way Dynastic Wealth passes down the family line.

We, in the US, are back to the same historically unethical situation of the 19th century that prompted philosophers then to rail against the unfounded disparity of feudalistic Monarchic Privilege. We don't have monarchs in America, but the result is the same - we have now plutocrats who manipulate political outcomes to maintain the taxation status-quo.

We have nobody to blame but ourselves. If you want to see the real culprit, just look in the mirror. We accept the circumstance of Grave Income Disparity in America by not electing sufficient numbers of progressive politicians* ...

*Who are mostly Democrats, members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Bernie Sanders is the only member from the Senate.


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bull****

same job?

same education?

same experience?

bull ****ing ****

Very thoughtful remark.

About the same level of a child of three ...
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. We accept the circumstance of Grave Income Disparity in America by not electing sufficient numbers of progressive politicians* ...

there are 2 ways to reduce income disparity. Violently steal from the rich at the point of a gun or help the poor to succeed. Guess which method a liberal will prefer??
 
THE GENDER GAP

I'll let this wonderful lady explain the gender wage gap:

I have to disagree with the video on the gender wage gap.

The OECD has done rather complete studies on the gender wage-gap and found it real. Women in Sweden (one of the more liberalized countries as regards female careers) do not have either the same job-opportunities or equivalent pay scales. And this has very little to do with whether they sacrifice in order to have children or not. In fact, in Sweden, women with at least one child have higher earnings than those without. (See the infographic in the following linked article.)

See here: Closing the Gender Gap in Sweden. Excerpt:
In 2011, Swedish women earned 14% less than men – a pay gap just below the OECD average (15%) and higher than in many countries with comparable female employment rates. The pay gap is even larger (21%) among parents. Lower pay not only deprives women of higher earnings in the short term but it also exposes them to higher poverty risk after retirement. Due to lower pension contributions over the course of their lives as well as to longer expected life, the incidence of poverty among retired women (11%) is much higher than among retired men (5%). In Sweden, 13% of available parental leave (8.5 weeks) is reserved to fathers.

A greater share could be reserved for them to encourage an even more equal distribution of paid and unpaid work among men and women – as would preventing parents from taking their leave at the same time.

Sweden is one of the more progressive countries in the EU. Meaning this: The situation in the rest of Europe is likely worse, and the further south you go, the more worse it gets.

So, the gender pay-scale gap does indeed exist and if it exists in Europe, I don't see how it cannot exist in the US ...

PS: Further reading on the gender pay-gap from the OECD (of which the US is a member and the Chief Economist an American female): Gender Publication - Closing the Gender Gap: Act Now
PS2: Click on the Executive Summary of that study, which has some very revealing information regarding the gender-gap. It is not so cut and dried as we might think.
 
The OECD has done rather complete studies on the gender wage-gap and found it real. .

well the more Republican capitalism you have the less you have to worry about it. If women are good and work for less the incentive is to hire them and bankrupt the competition thus driving up the need to hire woman and pay them more. 1+1=2
 
Very thoughtful remark.

About the same level of a child of three ...
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the study doesnt compare apples to apples

even a child of three knows you cant compare apples to oranges

but maybe that is too advanced for one such as you....
 
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so are they comparing apples and oranges or are they comparing apples to apples.
these baseless conjecture arguments get old.

Did they take

age?
experience?
education?
job?
family?

etc into play or just go well these people make this and those people make that?

The fact is this myth has already been trounced time and time again.

Forbes Welcome

That statistic doesn’t take into account a lot of choices that women and men make—education, years of experience and hours worked—that influence earnings

so the question remains why do you have to continue to be dishonest that is the real injustice.
 
THE GENDER GAP



I have to disagree with the video on the gender wage gap.

The OECD has done rather complete studies on the gender wage-gap and found it real. Women in Sweden (one of the more liberalized countries as regards female careers) do not have either the same job-opportunities or equivalent pay scales. And this has very little to do with whether they sacrifice in order to have children or not. In fact, in Sweden, women with at least one child have higher earnings than those without. (See the infographic in the following linked article.)

See here: Closing the Gender Gap in Sweden. Excerpt:

Sweden is one of the more progressive countries in the EU. Meaning this: The situation in the rest of Europe is likely worse, and the further south you go, the more worse it gets.

So, the gender pay-scale gap does indeed exist and if it exists in Europe, I don't see how it cannot exist in the US ...

PS: Further reading on the gender pay-gap from the OECD (of which the US is a member and the Chief Economist an American female): Gender Publication - Closing the Gender Gap: Act Now
PS2: Click on the Executive Summary of that study, which has some very revealing information regarding the gender-gap. It is not so cut and dried as we might think.

:doh

Harvard prof. takes down gender wage gap myth | Washington Examiner

I've written extensively on how the gender wage gap would be more accurately referred to as the "gender earnings gap," because the gap is due mostly to choices women make and not discrimination

But as men and women progress through their careers, Goldin said, the difference in pay comes to light.

"But we also see large differences in where they are, in their job titles, and a lot of that occurs a year or two after a kid is born, and it occurs for women and not for men," Goldin said. "If anything, men tend to work somewhat harder."
Harvard professor disagrees that this is a major issue vs choice that people make in their careers.
 
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Our resident SJW throws out another old gem that's been so thoroughly debunked, that I'm amazed that TDS would use it. When you take away variable like time in service, education, etc, the wage gap is pennies, not dollars. You've been shown this before from highly reputable sources, so why do you keep trying to push this falsehood??
 
"But we also see large differences in where they are, in their job titles, and a lot of that occurs a year or two after a kid is born, and it occurs for women and not for men," Goldin said. "If anything, men tend to work somewhat harder."
Harvard professor disagrees that this is a major issue vs choice that people make in their careers.

Whatever it is, the trend is certainly not going away. The trend lines are clearly established.

Pew Research did an interesting study (titled "What Makes a Good Leader?"), and it still shows uniformly that women are in minority representation regardless of the circumstance:
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However, the good news is:
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Nascent sociological trends take decades to work themselves into permanence. The functional equivalence male/female as leaders/managers will take time - but it is inevitable. Perhaps as much as another half-century?

Frankly, we should give the movement an incisive push - by electing a female PotUS.

And you know of whom I am thinking ...
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Our resident SJW throws out another old gem that's been so thoroughly debunked, that I'm amazed that TDS would use it. When you take away variable like time in service, education, etc, the wage gap is pennies, not dollars. You've been shown this before from highly reputable sources, so why do you keep trying to push this falsehood??

Debunk this, hotshot:

Poverty - Number in Poverty and Poverty Ratio.jpg

Since 1965, for half a century 15% of Americans have lived below the Poverty Threshold! That's close to fifty-million individuals, the population of California and Illinois combined. (And you are also wondering why our jails are overstocked?)

Which means, regardless of what you may say to "disprove the seriousness of Income Disparity", it wont hold water. Unacceptable American Income Disparity (the worst of any developed country according to the Gini Coefficient) is the singular cause.

Something is viscerally wrong with the poverty calamity in America, and that something is the lack of a decent Minimum-Wage .

Typically, the response on this forum is that a Minimum Wage will create unemployment. Which is bogus, because that can only happen in a period of serious disinflation. Instead, the augmentation of the Minimum Wage puts more money in lower-class pockets that have a high-propensity to spend a low-propensity to save.

Thus the economy is boosted, and along with it the Demand for able workers in both industry and commerce.

Oh yeah, your BigMac just might cost twenty-cents more.

BFD ...
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i thought the thread was about wage gap

are you now changing it?

do you concede that battle is lost?
 
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