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  • Gun rights, explain

    15 62.50%
  • Abortion, explain

    7 29.17%
  • Gay marriage, explain

    7 29.17%
  • Marijuana, explain

    9 37.50%
  • State Rights, explain

    15 62.50%
  • Trayvon Martin, explain

    1 4.17%
  • None of these, explain

    3 12.50%
  • All of these, explain

    1 4.17%
  • Other, explain

    3 12.50%
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Thread: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

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    Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Are any of the topics important and relevant to our undertaking of creating a Constitution for the United States of America?

    If so, which ones? and Why?

    Gun Rights
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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    States rights I personally think is a big item of discussion; there were reasons to give a lot of rights to the states before - travel distance, just to get everyone to agree, slavery - that no longer apply. And certainly we have many more things crossing state lines that we did in 1700s.

    In terms of gun rights - I voted for that just because it is in our current US constitution but, in my opinion, it was a badly written amendment.

    Things like marriage, abortion, etc. I would think would be more covered under privacy and equal protection laws rather than needing to be spelled out specifically. I'm not sure guns even need to be spelled out specifically -again, it was addressing a very particular situation that doesn't apply anymore.

    those are my thoughts.

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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    I picked the maryjane one. Since alcohol, and tobacco legality is monitored by the Fed, I figure the herb should be too.
    What we have here, is a failure to presidentiate.

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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I picked the maryjane one. Since alcohol, and tobacco legality is monitored by the Fed, I figure the herb should be too.
    I don't have a problem with pot being monitored by the feds; but are alcohol and tobacco specifically mentioned in the constitution?

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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I don't have a problem with pot being monitored by the feds; but are alcohol and tobacco specifically mentioned in the constitution?
    Wasn't alcohol the 19th and 21st amendments, or close to that?
    What we have here, is a failure to presidentiate.

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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    If we decide on a list of enumerated rights such as guns, religion, freedom of speech, as is contained in the existing Constitution, then almost anything could be included. But the most important thing, in my opinion, is to ensure that only specific powers are assigned to the Federal government and that it will be limited to those assigned powers. All the rest will be left up to the states to decide as the people of each state see fit. (Once we complete a Constitution of the United States of America, it might be fun to create a mythical state that we would all be citizens of, and write a state constitution for that to compliment the new federal constitution.
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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Wasn't alcohol the 19th and 21st amendments, or close to that?
    oh yeah. Good point! It got mentioned. And then got unmentioned.

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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    All of these issues may be important to address. The easiest way to address some of them is how we handle existing case law. Four example does our new constitution supersede all current understanding of it as interpreted by our Supreme Court? If yes then row V Wade it would be implicitly repealed thereby necessitating in abortion amendment in our new constitution. Gun rights is looking to be partially contentious as well. BTW I call dibs on writing that amendment..... Lol
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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    If we decide on a list of enumerated rights such as guns, religion, freedom of speech, as is contained in the existing Constitution, then almost anything could be included. But the most important thing, in my opinion, is to ensure that only specific powers are assigned to the Federal government and that it will be limited to those assigned powers. All the rest will be left up to the states to decide as the people of each state see fit. (Once we complete a Constitution of the United States of America, it might be fun to create a mythical state that we would all be citizens of, and write a state constitution for that to compliment the new federal constitution.
    The problem is in my opinion, that throughout history and to this very day, States where certain rights are less popular have no problem restricting rights. States rights has been used as a codeword to justify slavery, Jim Crow segregation, absurd voting restrictions, absurd gun laws, absolutely insane abuses of police search and seizure powers,
    There needs to be clear and concise federal rights recognized
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    Re: Discussion only: Gun rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Marijuana, State Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    All of these issues may be important to address. The easiest way to address some of them is how we handle existing case law. Four example does our new constitution supersede all current understanding of it as interpreted by our Supreme Court? If yes then row V Wade it would be implicitly repealed thereby necessitating in abortion amendment in our new constitution. Gun rights is looking to be partially contentious as well. BTW I call dibs on writing that amendment..... Lol
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