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Alpha male

It's a tragic misunderstanding of human behavior based on a common misunderstanding of wolf behavior. It's the worst kind of pseudoscientific gibberish.

I use the term, but only because people understand it.

As males go, I prefer to think of myself as the Alpha and the Omega.

Speaking of Jesus Christ, remember what he did to the moneychangers in the Temple. If he snapped his fingers while the Disciples were talking, you know they'd shut the **** up.

....or half of the universe's population would dissolve into dust....
 
I see the term alpha male in the same light i see the gender definitions of masculine and feminine. We made that **** up, it caught on, and people try to center their lives around it. We are born to a relatively blank slate, until we become bombarded with societal roles.
Societal roles are not just fabricated out of thin air. They exist because people take them on. They were labeled upon observation. It's rare that we make up concepts and then enforce them.



We try to label everything, to understand it. As is our nature. But the more evolved we become, the less important it is to categorize everything and place everyone into a box.
recognizing patterns in behavior is not placing it into a box. The planning into boxes is normally self inflicted.
The term alpha male is just that... a term some person made up.
To describe an architype of human behavior that absolutely exists. They didn't just make up the word and the idea to place people in a box it was to describe a behavior pattern in a form of short hand like saying something is jovial or friendly verses describing every single behavior individually.

I wish we'd stop creating pointless expectations of ourselves. Lets see what could hapoen when we are allowed to unfold, naturally.
That's what has been happening for millennia. Sometimes people like to study behavior or characterize behavior so as to not have to write a dissertation on a person every time they refer to them.

Alpha male is a label nothing more it doesn't put you in a box or create expectations it's like the label dog. It doesn't place any socal expectations on the animal just that it is this species. It didn't create the concept of a dog it's just what we call a particular type of animal.
 
We arent that old. Our compassion, our style, our politics, our morals, our stereotypes... all constantantly evolving. Even the gender argument of boy vs girl... toys, clothing, actions, etc. We are so brand new to all of this. My favorite example is when men nkw bitch about the destruction of masculinity in terms of fashion and personality. You dont have to go very far back to see all of the different styles men wore throughout the years . We think skme men are metrosexual now? HA. guys, your realize your "wranglers and cowboy boots" are no where near the foundation of what it means to be a man. Before you, men were wearing flamboyant, tight clothes. None of our definitions of man and woman mean ****. Its changed a ton of times
 
There is no such thing as a alpha male. The guy that coined the term admitted that he made a mistake about wolves. What he actually observed was a family unit. What the guy was observing was parents and kids, not adults males.
The myth of the alpha wolf - Mawer
 
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I posted my term in #32.

It’s been my experience that when a group of men/males get together, there is an obvious pecking order that shows after a very short period of time. Not always the loudest/biggest/most obvious rises to the top.
 
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It’s been my experience that when a group of men/males get together, there is an obvious pecking order that shows after a very short period of time. Not always the loudest/biggest/most obvious rises to the top.

I think I experienced that in grade school....but "Alpha adolescent" just does not have the same ring to it.

I generally dont subscribe to Alpha male thing; I think its more of a social buzzword to make some males feel better about themselves.

I think leadership outside of most societal norms is whoever has the biggest fist or stick.
 
I think I experienced that in grade school....but "Alpha adolescent" just does not have the same ring to it.

I generally dont subscribe to Alpha male thing; I think its more of a social buzzword to make some males feel better about themselves.

I think leadership outside of most societal norms is whoever has the biggest fist or stick.


I don’t necessarily agree with the term “alpha male.” I get the impression that you are prior service and are now engaged as a contractor in a similar role. The military is mostly a male dominated group. Even in the RW there stark differences in the interaction of gender specific groups. Females that I have discussed this with tend to agree. What do you mean “outside of societal norms?”
 
I don’t necessarily agree with the term “alpha male.” I get the impression that you are prior service and are now engaged as a contractor in a similar role. The military is mostly a male dominated group. Even in the RW there stark differences in the interaction of gender specific groups. Females that I have discussed this with tend to agree. What do you mean “outside of societal norms?”

Perhaps I should have phrased it differently..."Western societal norms?"...I see it here, and in many other regions I have been that the "Alpha male" is simply whomever has the most guns or inspires the most fear; I am inclined to label that more along the lines of bully but even that word does not seem to fit correctly.

However, yes, I am prior military, and currently do contract work overseas....but I dont know how that really factors in, as I have worked under females as well regardless of whatever personality traits they did or did not possess.

Those are duty positions.
 
Perhaps I should have phrased it differently..."Western societal norms?"...I see it here, and in many other regions I have been that the "Alpha male" is simply whomever has the most guns or inspires the most fear; I am inclined to label that more along the lines of bully but even that word does not seem to fit correctly.

However, yes, I am prior military, and currently do contract work overseas....but I dont know how that really factors in, as I have worked under females as well regardless of whatever personality traits they did or did not possess.

Those are duty positions.

I think we are talking past each other.
 
Yup. I would describe an Alpha male as someone who lives life on his own terms and does not change his objectives to suit someone else's desires.

Be your own Alpha.
 
What are people's thoughts on "alpha males"? What is your definition of what an alpha male should be? Or maybe you don't even acknowledge this term and think it's a dumb PUA concept? Do you consider yourself an alpha male (if you are a guy)? Or have you been with an alpha male if you are a girl. Lets share our thoughts.

To me, a true alpha male should be kind and compassionate. It's a nice bonus if they are confident and charismatic, but these things are not absolutely necessary.

Alpha males come in all shapes. For example, Jesus, according to some people, he would be classified as a beta, but just look at how much he was and still is being revered by so many people. He was a leader in every way. To me, he was alpha, and I am not even Christian.

We humans are animals, which is why we entertain the concept of an "alpha male", but we are also more than just animals, and this is why our true ideal of alpha males cannot be extrapolated from what we see in the animal kingdom.

I think an alpha male is a man a woman feels safe and secure with. Not as easy as it sounds. He has to be confident without being arrogant. He has to be in control but not controlling. He has to take charge in bed but be sensitive. He has to be independent but let her know where he is at all times. He has to be able to watch chick flicks without vomiting. He has to be appealing to other women without ever looking at them. And it's also good if he's a mind reader.
 
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