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Do women have it easier than men in the dating world?

blackjack50 said:
I guess I misread your comment back to me lol no wonder it didn't make sense
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Yeah, I wasn't responding to you so much as piling on, hahah
 
Spartacus FPV said:
Men face rejection on the front end, in approaching women for a date. Yes its easier for women to get a date or get laid.

Conversely, women face rejection on the back end, men who use them for sex and never commit.

Men can always play the numbers game and just approach more people, develop thick skin from rejection and learn to move on to the next one. Women do not have this luxury, in fact if they try the numbers game (slut) they face an increasing stigma (cant turn a hoe into a housewife) by men even less inclined to commit given her number of sexual partners.

So remember that if ever you feel a sense of envy at a female's capacity to get a date. Also remember, they have less time to get their family situation sorted out due to the prevailing myth of a ticking biological clock that runs out at ~34.
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This is what I've done. Wasn't easy at first, in fact it still isn't easy, but the more women you approach, the better your chances are.
 
Lots of good posts here. thanks all of you. Yes indeed, especially in istanbul where i live, women can CHOOSE anyone they like, whereas men always need to run run run, compete etc.


But weirdly, all my relationship started with signals from the female side. I always hated aproaching so obviously, they may have felt, and I heard them saying these things first. Of course I felt similar things and responded nicely and made them comfortable soon after. Though endings were not as great :( I hate endings, it always destroyed me and consumed my feelings.

But anyway, yeah women have it way easier than men on relationships. For sure.
 
Puigb said:
Seems to me that women can find dates MUCH easier than men. Even good looking men don't have anywhere near the amount of dating options your average woman does. Does this mean it's easier for women in the dating world? Or does it make it harder for them to try and find the ones who aren't only using them for sex?
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Poor guys ,they have some many problems !
 
ThoughtEx. said:
um, the number one cause of death for women worldwide is male violence. It beats out malaria, war, and road accidents. It's estimated that 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

Maybe the reason guys are having a hard time picking up dates, is because when a woman decides to go somewhere alone with a man, they are literally gambling with their lives. I'd be a bit picky to...
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Wow.

Just wow!

Do ever ever give any real thought, or at least make a attempt to research some of these inane comments you throw out?

Male violence isn't even on the radar of the WHO or the CDC as leading causes of death for women worldwide.

WHO | 10 leading causes of death in females

https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/index.htm

WPRO | Women?s health
 
RetiredUSN said:
Wow.

Just wow!

Do ever ever give any real thought, or at least make a attempt to research some of these inane comments you throw out?

Male violence isn't even on the radar of the WHO or the CDC as leading causes of death for women worldwide.

WHO | 10 leading causes of death in females

https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/index.htm

WPRO | Women?s health
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I sure do, I just don't cherry pick off the WHO website I use something called scholar.google.com.

Violence against women and girls is a major health and human rights issue. At least one in five of the world’s female population has been physically or sexually abused by a man or men at some time in their life. Many, including pregnant women and young girls, are subject to severe, sustained or repeated attacks.
Worldwide, it has been estimated that violence against women is as serious a cause of death and incapacity among women of reproductive age as cancer, and a greater cause of ill-health than traffic accidents and malaria combined.1
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http://www.who.int/gender/violence/v4.pdf

The problem isn't so much murder outright, it's what comes after the rape. 90 percent of suicieds in women can be linked back to sexual assault or domestic abuse. Complications from disease after rape, is another factor. And then there are complications from abortion after rape. Male violence being the cause, and the overall effect being death. You see instead of just stopping at the three paragraph blurb you find on the front page, I make sure I know what I'm talking about. But hey, you keep thinking your research skills are all that. It's funny when baby boomers think they have a handle on the world works.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
I sure do, I just don't cherry pick off the WHO website I use something called scholar.google.com.



http://www.who.int/gender/violence/v4.pdf

The problem isn't so much murder outright, it's what comes after the rape. 90 percent of suicieds in women can be linked back to sexual assault or domestic abuse. Complications from disease after rape, is another factor. And then there are complications from abortion after rape. Male violence being the cause, and the overall effect being death. You see instead of just stopping at the three paragraph blurb you find on the front page, I make sure I know what I'm talking about. But hey, you keep thinking your research skills are all that. It's funny when baby boomers think they have a handle on the world works.
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Where does "medical complications" rank on any of the websites?

How does rape and/or assault relate to heart disease?

Face it: you made a ridiculous claim, and can't face the music when called out on it. Take your lumps like an adult.
 
Puigb said:
Seems to me that women can find dates MUCH easier than men. Even good looking men don't have anywhere near the amount of dating options your average woman does. Does this mean it's easier for women in the dating world? Or does it make it harder for them to try and find the ones who aren't only using them for sex?
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Women have more opportunities than men until they reach a certain age.

After a certain age, older men have a better chance of forming a relationship with a younger woman than older women have forming one with a younger man. Which leaves older women with fewer opportunities than older men.
 
Harshaw said:
Women have more opportunities than men until they reach a certain age.

After a certain age, older men have a better chance of forming a relationship with a younger woman than older women have forming one with a younger man. Which leaves older women with fewer opportunities than older men.
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Only if you are rich. No young chick would date a 40 yo guy just for the look. And btw, why would I value having a young sexy woman who is after my money or status.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
why? because you don't want it to be true? I see you posted no information disproving anything. Fact is, it's just as true for the western world as everywhere else.

The Facts on Violence Against Women | BWSS

Way to throw in some casual racism, west = good and middle east = bad, asia = bad, africa = bad. But us here in the whole Western world, we're good people. None of our men are violent, no sir...
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https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/race-ethnicity/index.htm

Leading cause of death in USA is similar to most of the Western World. Cancer and Heart Disease.

Death by men isn't anywhere in the picture, much less a top statistic.

In fact, domestic abuse is about 60% against women and 40% against men.

cardiovascular disease, often thought to be a "male" problem, is the number one killer of women.

WHO | Women?s health
 
ThoughtEx. said:
The United Nations, for one. And several other organizations.

Sources from the link I provided.

[1]United Nations Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women, 1993
[2] UNITE to End Violence Against Women Fact Sheet
[3] The Violence Stops Here – Violence Against Women Facts
[4] Fast facts: statistics on violence against women and girls
[5] Facts and Figures on Violence against Women, UN Women, 2011
[6] Fact Sheet No 239 on intimate partner and sexual violence against women, World Health Organization, 2011
[7] ibid
[8] The State of the World’s Population, UNFPA, 2000, chapter 3
[9] UNAIDS, UNFPA and UNIFEM (2004). Women and HIV/AIDS: Confronting the Crisis, chapter 6
[10] Global Report on Trafficking in Persons. Human Trafficking. A Crime That Shames Us All, United Nations Office on Drugs and crime, 2009, p. 11.
[11] A word about statistics by S. Higgins
[12] United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon
[13] Homicide in Canada, 2009, Sara Beattie and Adam Cotter,Juristat Article, Volume 30, Number 3, Statistics Canada, page 14
[14] In-depth study on all forms of violence against women, Report of the Secretary-General, General Assembly, 2006. A/61/122/Add. 1
[15] ibid
[16] ibid, page 5
[17] Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile 2011 , Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada, page 5
[18] Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile 2008 , Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada, page 13.
[19] Sexual Assault in Canada 2004 and 2007 , Shannon Brennan and Andrea Taylor-Butts, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada, 2008, p. 6.
[20] ibid page6
[21] Family Violence in Canada: A Statistical Profile 2009 , Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada, page 12.
3. Ibid, page 5
[22] ibid, page 5
[23] ibid, page 5
[24] What Their Stories Tell Us: Research findings from the Sisters In Spirit initiative , Native Women’s Association of Canada, 2010, p. 18. Amnesty International, Media Release March 8, 2011. Canada must probe cases of slain, missing aboriginal women: UN, The Canadian Press, CBC News, November 24, 2008. Canada: Missing and murdered Aboriginal women and girls: Families deserve answers – and justice.
[25] ibid
[26] Behind Closed Doors: The Impact of Domestic Violence on Children, Joint report by UNICEF, The Body Shop International, and the Secretariat for the United Nations Secretary-General’s Study on Violence Against Children, 2006
[27] ibid, page 6
[28] ibid, page 6
[29] ibid, page 6
[30] The Effects of Domestic Violence on Children: Where does it Hurt? Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
[31] Data from July 1, 2012 to August 1, 2012
[32] The data includes scheduled appointment.
[33] The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere, Jurgen Habernas, 1989
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So you just post s a link to a site that reports types of violence but nothing that actually backs up your claim.

I like reading people's sources to find out how full of **** they are... :lol:
 
Harshaw said:
This is ridiculously wrong.
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Why tho? If I were a woman, why would I choose 40-45 yo man who is declined sexually (scientific fact) and has probably much less lifetime than me over handsome guys at my age? Love of course can happen in any situation but this doesnt give any edge whatsoever to old men compared to old women.

Not to mention possible age problem with the possible kids in that scenario.
 
kaerin said:
Why tho? If I were a woman, why would I choose 40-45 yo man who is declined sexually (scientific fact) and has probably much less lifetime than me over handsome guys at my age? Love of course can happen in any situation but this doesnt give any edge whatsoever to old men compared to old women.

Not to mention possible age problem with the possible kids in that scenario.
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:shrug: Believe whatever you want.
 
Goshin said:
Bud, you're preaching to the choir here. I've been in an abusive long term, both physically and otherwise, and talked about it on DP more than once. I'm one of those that often reminds others in relevant conversations that it isn't entirely a problem of men abusing women.... women frequently physically abuse men. Studies show possibly half of all CDV calls where a man has struck a women was in response to the woman assaulting him first.

But I think you're misreading me and what I'm saying.

Men have vulnerabilities too, sure. We're probably as much or more susceptible to emotional, psychological and financial abuse in relationships. Physical abuse can also be catastrophic to us as well.

Usually, though, we're not as physically vulnerable to extreme violence from a partner, is all I'm saying. F'rinstance, my (ex) wife flew into a rage and tried to kill me. Thing is, she was so out of her head she tried to strangle me with her hands.... um, her 5'8 95 lbs, me about 6' 225 lbs with an 18 inch neck. I was annoyed and appalled but not in any serious danger. Well, until she started trying to brain me with heavy objects but I handled that too (ex-cop, former martial arts instructor).

I wasn't dumb enough to lay down to sleep beside her after that, fortunately.
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Not even for some angry make up sex?





just joking... I was in an extremely abusive relationship as well...
 
kaerin said:
Why tho? If I were a woman, why would I choose 40-45 yo man who is declined sexually (scientific fact) and has probably much less lifetime than me over handsome guys at my age? Love of course can happen in any situation but this doesnt give any edge whatsoever to old men compared to old women.

Not to mention possible age problem with the possible kids in that scenario.
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So your counter argument is that since you can't imagine it it doesn't happen? Interesting... even if completely lacking logic.
 
Anyway folks, that is what I think, dont wanna fight or smth for it. Respect y'all's opinion.
 
kaerin said:
Why tho? If I were a woman, why would I choose 40-45 yo man who is declined sexually (scientific fact) and has probably much less lifetime than me over handsome guys at my age? Love of course can happen in any situation but this doesnt give any edge whatsoever to old men compared to old women.

Not to mention possible age problem with the possible kids in that scenario.
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Money.

Older guys have more, typically. Money brings comfort and even the promise of more time together.
 
Gonzo Rodeo said:
Money.

Older guys have more, typically. Money brings comfort and even the promise of more time together.
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Older men have many things to offer other than money. Experience, wisdom, social status, power, erudition, all of which are indicators of a favorable reproductive situation, the driver of sexual attraction.

Men also, with the kind of effort you'd have in a more physical way of life such as a hunter-gatherer society, tend to remain physically attractive later in life.

Some physical hallmarks of age also speak to some of the factors mentioned above. Women often find touches of gray hair attractive, and at times even a lot of gray. And older-looking, more wrinkled, but still handsome face can go a long way.
 
kaerin said:
Only if you are rich. No young chick would date a 40 yo guy just for the look. And btw, why would I value having a young sexy woman who is after my money or status.
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I actually know a guy at my job who is dating a cute latina chick who is 22. He's 39. And he isn't rich...
 
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