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Did the virus sicken ad kill all it was going to in certain states?

Paradoxical said:
Are you saying NO ONE is immune to COVID? Seriously?
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It's a novel virus. No human body had ever encountered it before December last year. It follows that no antibodies for that new virus existed either. Virology 101.
 
Paradoxical said:
Lots of "lucky" people in the world, aint there? Seems you know something doctors don't. Maybe you should be a candidate for a Nobel prize.

Will you say all those bikers were "lucky" when the time comes and you have to admit that masks are not the answer?
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Go back to school.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's a novel virus. No human body had ever encountered it before December last year. It follows that no antibodies for that new virus existed either. Virology 101.
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It wont matter if you say it a thousand times. Lol
 
Paradoxical said:
The charts have nothing to do with the fact that right now, those four states that HAD death rates per million of 1200 to 1800 are now having just a handful, whereas the states that had death rates of 200-600 are now having 19 times and more than them. You guys want to scream "IT'S THE MASKS" without one bit of evidence of that and in spite of the fact that most all of these states had mask mandates and STILL do, and yet people are still dying at much greater rates in the states that formerly had low death rates per million.

This is not helpful in society to do this which is to ignore the elephant in the room and dismiss it by saying, "Oh it's the masks" when you all know that is a lie. But, like Christianity, it's the lie you need to believe in. Without the lie, you can't maintain your "Jesus" which is now your comfort mask, which really does nothing but make you feel like you are safe and have a friend.

The more I think about this the more i don't just think I am right. The more I know it. This virus has killed MOST all of those it was going to in the four states that now have almost no deaths. The states that were low before are increasing because the virus isn't done killing all those that it can kill. When it does, it will stop. Just like it has i those four states which have had massive deaths per million and had their stock of susceptible humans killed ALREADY! IOW, those who would be killed by this virus are depleted.
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For starters, I've never stated that masks alone are the only solution; and neither has anyone in the medical field. Masks are but one of the measures that can be taken to help prevent the spread of this disease; the others are social distancing, avoiding crowded indoor gatherings, and washing ones hands. The reason I posted that chart is because the northeast took aggressive measures to ensure people weren't able to congregate in large groups, and we saw those numbers drop after that point. The other states in that chart decided to open their economies and ease restrictions on indoor gatherings, and left it up to individuals to wear masks or not. Most of these plans went into effect in May/June, and oddly enough, the rates for those states shot up in the expected time frame.

Thus far you have presented no evidence other than your conjecture of the virus having gone through all of the vulnerable people, but we have no way of know if that's accurate because some of the affected states rolled back their reopening plans, and those in the northeast have reopened cautiously. The rest of your statements don't make any sense because this isn't about "believing" but just following the trends seen here and other countries who have been successful in curbing the spread. You don't even have an example of a country where people behaved normally throughout the pandemic to use as a comparison; this is why all you have are baseless opinions.

If you are right, why have no other countries and their citizenry adopted that kind of policy?
 
Paradoxical said:
Lots of "lucky" people in the world, aint there? Seems you know something doctors don't. Maybe you should be a candidate for a Nobel prize.

Will you say all those bikers were "lucky" when the time comes and you have to admit that masks are not the answer?
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What will you say when hundreds of them come down with the disease? Will you admit to being wrong? Of course not, you're far too arrogant to admit you are ever mistaken about anything.
 
bearpoker said:
Doxie is only interested in his opinions, which he thinks are facts, not in what is actually happening.
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If there's an argument to be made, I'm all ears. But without supporting evidence, he may as well tell us the sun is green.
 
vegas giants said:
Like polio? It's called immunity. People catch covid though
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Agreed.

We have immunity to Polio because an effective polio vaccine was invented and is given to millions babies /children In the United States every year.

Polio did not just peter out on its own.
 
Paradoxical said:
So, what do you call it when flu season is here and people don't catch it even if someone who has it sneezes in their face?

You're not really this .........? Are you?
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I consider them lucky.

I also might think they had a seasonal flu shot.

I’m glad I make sure that I get my seasonal flu shot every year.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
It's a novel virus. No human body had ever encountered it before December last year. It follows that no antibodies for that new virus existed either. Virology 101.
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This is for you and everyone else here who CLAIMS no one is immune from COVID

An enduring coronavirus mystery: Why do only some get sick?

People who contracted COVID-19 but didn't get sick and had no symptoms have been one of the most confounding factors of the public health emergency. The United States has more than 2.5 million confirmed coronavirus cases, but it's likely that many asymptomatic people have fallen through the cracks of official counts. it's difficult to know precisely how they contribute to the spread of the virus and whether they have developed antibodies or other protections that would confer some type of immunity..........Dr. Jorge Mercado, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor at New York University's Langone Hospital-Brooklyn, said scientists still aren't sure why some people who have been exposed to the virus get very sick, while others develop no symptoms............Many asymptomatic people likely had no idea they were ever positive, said Dr. Marybeth Sexton, an assistant professor of medicine at Emory University in Atlanta.................Another big unknown is how asymptomatic people's immune systems respond and whether they will develop antibodies or other protections against the virus.
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THERE is your virology 101 for ya..........proving, once again,that I am and have been, 100% right on this, as usual.
 
ElChupacabra said:
For starters, I've never stated that masks alone are the only solution; and neither has anyone in the medical field. Masks are but one of the measures that can be taken to help prevent the spread of this disease; the others are social distancing, avoiding crowded indoor gatherings, and washing ones hands. The reason I posted that chart is because the northeast took aggressive measures to ensure people weren't able to congregate in large groups, and we saw those numbers drop after that point. The other states in that chart decided to open their economies and ease restrictions on indoor gatherings, and left it up to individuals to wear masks or not. Most of these plans went into effect in May/June, and oddly enough, the rates for those states shot up in the expected time frame.

Thus far you have presented no evidence other than your conjecture of the virus having gone through all of the vulnerable people, but we have no way of know if that's accurate because some of the affected states rolled back their reopening plans, and those in the northeast have reopened cautiously. The rest of your statements don't make any sense because this isn't about "believing" but just following the trends seen here and other countries who have been successful in curbing the spread. You don't even have an example of a country where people behaved normally throughout the pandemic to use as a comparison; this is why all you have are baseless opinions.

If you are right, why have no other countries and their citizenry adopted that kind of policy?
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I think I should keep this as a macro. I am flabbergasted at the ignorance on these boards by so many. This link shows that science doesn't know why some don't get the virus. Yet, we have an idiot here with no science or doctor training saying "they were lucky". He knows more than the scientists.

This is for you and everyone else here who CLAIMS no one is immune from COVID

An enduring coronavirus mystery: Why do only some get sick?

People who contracted COVID-19 but didn't get sick and had no symptoms have been one of the most confounding factors of the public health emergency. The United States has more than 2.5 million confirmed coronavirus cases, but it's likely that many asymptomatic people have fallen through the cracks of official counts. it's difficult to know precisely how they contribute to the spread of the virus and whether they have developed antibodies or other protections that would confer some type of immunity..........Dr. Jorge Mercado, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor at New York University's Langone Hospital-Brooklyn, said scientists still aren't sure why some people who have been exposed to the virus get very sick, while others develop no symptoms............Many asymptomatic people likely had no idea they were ever positive, said Dr. Marybeth Sexton, an assistant professor of medicine at Emory University in Atlanta.................Another big unknown is how asymptomatic people's immune systems respond and whether they will develop antibodies or other protections against the virus.
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snakestretcher said:
What on earth are you babbling about now?
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She was saying that Russia was in stage twoof their tests.

Everyone claims that "science' has made tests that show we need to wear masks. I assume they were scientific tests. So, I imagine stage two and stage three of the scientific mask tests are done? Have you checked Doctor? or are you a scientist? I forget. pardon my mmory
 
vegas giants said:
Like herman Caine?


HAHAHAHAHA
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One person and there is no evidence he got it at the rally. Seriously? This is all you guys have? If ONE person dies from the Sturgis rally, is that what you're all gonna say? This is so effing crazy I think I landed on bizzarro world.
 
Paradoxical said:
One person and there is no evidence he got it at the rally. Seriously? This is all you guys have? If ONE person dies from the Sturgis rally, is that what you're all gonna say? This is so effing crazy I think I landed on bizzarro world.
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Still waiting....


Name one expert that says people are immune
 
Paradoxical said:
She was saying that Russia was in stage twoof their tests.

Everyone claims that "science' has made tests that show we need to wear masks. I assume they were scientific tests. So, I imagine stage two and stage three of the scientific mask tests are done? Have you checked Doctor? or are you a scientist? I forget. pardon my mmory
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Actually , Russia’s “ vaccine “ did not have Testing , before they put it to market for the public to use.

Medicine and vaccine development has 3 phases.

Medical devices such as canes, walkers , braces, masks do not go through any stages/phases before the general public for sale/use.

Medications and vaccines go through different stages of the development. They are
Exploratory stage; Pre-clinical stage; Clinical development; Regulatory review and approval then manufacturing and release to the public.
 
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Paradoxical said:
A placebo can be anything. It doesn't have to be a pill It is the MIND that makes you feel safe. You wear a mask ad you feel like Batman or superman.
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Lol! Ill have to see if anyone carries around a batarang while wearing a surgical mask. :lamo
 
Paradoxical said:
I think I should keep this as a macro. I am flabbergasted at the ignorance on these boards by so many. This link shows that science doesn't know why some don't get the virus. Yet, we have an idiot here with no science or doctor training saying "they were lucky". He knows more than the scientists.
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Sure, there are plenty of things we don't know yet, but that shouldn't stop us from responding to what we do know. We know that millions do get identifiable symptoms and a certain percentage of those are severe enough to hospitalize patients. I'm not sure what your point is, but not knowing everything about a disease doesn't mean one should not respond to what is known. We don't fully understand cancer, but we still treat it and make recommendations on how to avoid the factors which cause it.

This is for you and everyone else here who CLAIMS no one is immune from COVID

An enduring coronavirus mystery: Why do only some get sick?
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I never made that point, so I'm not sure why you're addressing it to me. None of this changes the fact that even with some people resisting the disease better than others, the number of people developing severe symptoms and dying is too high for us to sustain in an uncontrolled surge.
 
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