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Absolute, unmitigated failure.

Metric Mouse said:
Well, if one moves the goalposts form GDP to GNI, then one would have that answer, I suppose.
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Not sure why any regular person would care more about GDP than GNI.
 
ReubenSherr said:
That's an extremely misleading stat. You're counting all the countries in the Southern Hemisphere that were experiencing summer when the pandemic hit.

20% of our deaths, BTW, were in NYC, where an incompent, arrogant governor failed to shut down businesses a week earlier as SF had. And neglected to make sure his hospitals were prepared.
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Yes.

And we know COVID disappears in the summer.

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Tlrmln said:
What did Germany do, specifically, that CA and NY did not?
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Well, first of all, Merkel told her people that the coronavirus was a problem that would have to be handled rationally and with discipline.

Trump told America a miracle would wipe the virus out in April.
 
Threegoofs said:
Yes.

And we know COVID disappears in the summer.

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Warmer weather seems to weaken the intensity of the virus, it doesn't kill it.

I have data compiled demonstrating the correlation between weather and death rates, I can try to dig it up from that thread.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Because you all would have called him a dictator.

Do you support Trump sending in federal troops to Portland?
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He is a dictator when he goes around Congress to sign executive orders or sends Federal troops uninvited into American cities. But when it came to a crisis that required real leadership he failed miserably and caused the needless deaths of 100's of 1000's of Americans. Had he done the things German, Australian or S. Korean or S. Korean leaders did he would have been applauded for saving Americans lives and our economy too. He still will not do those things and has doomed us to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year as well as millions more jobs lost that are not coming back. It is dereliction of duty akin to mass murder.

 
iguanaman said:
He is a dictator when he goes around Congress to sign executive orders or sends Federal troops uninvited into American cities.
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Should he have sent in Federal officials uninvited to New York City to enforce the closing down of businesses a week earlier?

If he had, what would Cuomo's reaction have been?
 
ReubenSherr said:
Should he have sent in Federal officials uninvited to New York City to enforce the closing down of businesses a week earlier?

If he had, what would Cuomo's reaction have been?
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He could have announced that there was a crisis and told the Governors of the need to shut down silly. They would have been happy to follow those orders especially if the Federal Govt. and FEMA would be aiding the States in those measures. Instead he told the Governors that the virus was under control and there was no danger. There is no avoiding that Trump was personally responsible for 100's of 1000's of needless deaths. He still thinks the virus will just go away like a miracle. Meanwhile the virus thinks otherwise.

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ReubenSherr said:
Warmer weather seems to weaken the intensity of the virus, it doesn't kill it.

I have data compiled demonstrating the correlation between weather and death rates, I can try to dig it up from that thread.
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Seems to be doing quite well right now. In August. [emoji849]
 
iguanaman said:
He could have announced that there was a crisis and told the Governors of the need to shut down silly. They would have been happy to follow those orders especially if the Federal Govt. and FEMA would be aiding the States in those measures. Instead he told the Governors that the virus was under control and there was no danger.
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And demanded everything open up by Easter!!
 
ReubenSherr said:
Only 554 deaths yesterday, nationwide.
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Sunday reporting.

Not sure why you think death rates magically drop by 50%, but then again, you listen to a guy who keeps telling you this virus is just going to go away and has been saying it since February, so the wattage seems a bit low.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Well, if one moves the goalposts form GDP to GNI, then one would have that answer, I suppose.
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Except, neither GDP or GNI was mentioned. 'Richest' was. Why are you moving goal posts?
 
yep, they aren't wrong. some of us care intensely, and many of the rest want to walk around like it's not even a thing. i see both daily. it is so frustrating.
 
Hamish Howl said:
You have been blocked



They're not wrong.
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Europeans that followed their countries orders, which we haven't. There were no Lake of the Osark idiots. or hooded of "protestors" or beach bunnies. Trump told us what to do, we failed to do it. AND, if he had used Federal LEO to enforce social distancing and masks you'd bitch about that, too.

Locally, our LEO have announced they're switching from "education" to enforcement; only took them four months. :eek:

Only Room Temperature IQers think Trump could have order the virus away and I know you're not one of those. :cool:
 
iguanaman said:
The reported deaths have a reporting cycle and this is the low point in a few days it will be over 1000 again.
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Can you, or any other liberal posters, start posting anything which proves that Biden would have done a better job?

I think if Dems had been in charge, deaths and cases would be the same, unemployment would be around 20%.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Can you, or any other liberal posters, start posting anything which proves that Biden would have done a better job?

I think if Dems had been in charge, deaths and cases would be the same, unemployment would be around 20%.
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Prove it.
 
Bullseye said:
Europeans that followed their countries orders, which we haven't. There were no Lake of the Osark idiots. or hooded of "protestors" or beach bunnies. Trump told us what to do, we failed to do it. AND, if he had used Federal LEO to enforce social distancing and masks you'd bitch about that, too.

Locally, our LEO have announced they're switching from "education" to enforcement; only took them four months. :eek:

Only Room Temperature IQers think Trump could have order the virus away and I know you're not one of those. :cool:
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Trump told us a miracle would happen. That's what he told us. When did he start talking about wearing a mask or social distancing, or any of that stuff? Like 2 weeks ago.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Can you, or any other liberal posters, start posting anything which proves that Biden would have done a better job?

I think if Dems had been in charge, deaths and cases would be the same, unemployment would be around 20%.
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When every other world leader has done a better job than Trump you can easily say that Biden would have too. Europe's economies are in far better shape than ours for one simple reason. They were able to control the virus and we were not. It's not like that should be news to you. You have been told time and time again that the virus is damaging the economy not the shutdowns. Only 87 more days of this madness.

The U.S. is still struggling to contain outbreaks in several states from Texas to Florida, whose health-care systems are being pushed to the brink. The federal government has failed to articulate a unified message for the country, as state governors have taken conflicting decisions on the length and strictness of their lockdowns.

Meanwhile, in most European countries, the situation appears under control. From Germany to Greece, countries are dealing with a handful of flare-ups, but they’re being contained by localized restrictions. Governments have reopened their economies steadily, without causing a new surge of infections. The sacrifices of months of lockdown appear to be paying off for now.

Europe’s economy also appears to be improving. The euro zone is in the middle of a very steep recession, and the European Commission expects the bloc’s gross domestic product to fall by nearly 8% in 2020. The difficulties in other parts of the world in managing the pandemic will weigh on exports — and especially on tourism. But restaurants, bars and shops don’t seem to be heading for a mass round of fresh lockdowns, unlike in the U.S. Domestic demand, from consumers and governments, should keep recovering as long as the pandemic is kept in check.
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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
 
Luce said:
Trump told us a miracle would happen. That's what he told us. When did he start talking about wearing a mask or social distancing, or any of that stuff? Like 2 weeks ago.
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Pure nonsense. Masks and social distancing has been the rule for months.
 
Bullseye said:
Pure nonsense. Masks and social distancing has been the rule for months.
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Then you shouldn't have any problem linking me to Trump touting those in, say, May.
 
iguanaman said:
You have been told time and time again that the virus is damaging the economy not the shutdowns.
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Lol you do understand that we, as conservatives, are not asking for your advice?

Don't tell me lol what "I've been told."

Liberals lie.

And I do not believe a word of what you just posted.
 
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