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8/6 America 2,000 deaths in one day

swing_voter said:
If some mass shooter gunned down 2,000 Americans, say at a football stadium, we'd be pissed.
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If some doctor aborted 2000 babies in one day libs would be thrilled
 
CaughtInThe said:
you literally suck at math.



now, as has been asked before, how many dead Americans are acceptable to you (from COVID) as of August 7th, 2020.
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A most asinine question. Most are not endorsing and accepting any deaths; but what are the realities?
People die.
 
tacomancer said:
That would just mean the deaths would have happened earlier in the year. Not an effective strategy.
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No, not if we actually protected the ones most vulnerable(wink)
 
Luther said:
Keep up the fine work Taco

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts have mixed answers. | Live Science
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COVID-19: How much protection do face masks offer? - Mayo Clinic

Cloth masks

A cloth mask is intended to trap droplets that are released when the wearer talks, coughs or sneezes. Asking everyone to wear cloth masks can help reduce the spread of the virus by people who have COVID-19 but don't realize it.

Cloth face coverings are most likely to reduce the spread of the COVID-19 virus when they are widely used by people in public settings. And countries that required face masks, testing, isolation and social distancing early in the pandemic have successfully slowed the spread of the virus.

While surgical and N95 masks may be in short supply and should be reserved for health care providers, cloth face coverings and masks are easy to find or make, and can be washed and reused.

Masks can be made from common materials, such as sheets made of tightly woven cotton. Instructions are easy to find online. Cloth masks should include multiple layers of fabric. The CDC website even includes directions for no-sew masks made from bandannas and T-shirts.
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Per the Mayo clinic, while a cloth mask may not be perfect, it is recommended and work if people wear them generally.
 
Paradoxical said:
For the very LAST time. Cases just mean someone who is lucky enough to have it and is therefore now immune.
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Lucky enough to have it? Not a death cult.
 
Thom Paine said:
A most asinine question. Most are not endorsing and accepting any deaths; but what are the realities?
People die.
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....geebus thats dumb...
 
tacomancer said:
I don't know if they have or have not badmouthed california and conservative gotcha posts are not enough to convince me of anything, so please prove that they have not been badmouthed.
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I don't know if they have or have not badmouthed california
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They haven't

so please prove that they have not been badmouthed.
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Show me a thread on here showing so from this date back?
 
Luther said:
They haven't



Show me a thread on here showing so from this date back?
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I am not the one who made the assertion. I am currently neutral on the topic of whether california (or any other state) was badmouthed or not (because its a very petty concern), so convince me :shrug:
 
swing_voter said:
Whoa! We're going in the wrong direction!

You can't fake COVID-19 deaths. A body is a body.

Why do you think the number of deaths is so high? {Bold face mine.]
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[N.b. I've been keeping track of the Covid statistics since 3/18/2020.]

Short answer: A quirk.

Long answer: The daily reported data of SARS-CoV-2 virus assigned deaths is, to say the least, inconsistent. A look at any daily chart will show a weekly rise and fall which is probably attributed to our 'standard' M-F work week. Any single day's report must be considered as having a rather large +/- assigned to it. That holds for the 'big three': US cumulative cases, deaths and recoveries. It also holds for data derived from them, most noticeable in that for individual days.

With time, though, the data can be examined for trends. These smooth out, to a great extent, the individual daily reports. [Statisticians are familiar with the change in uncertainty as a function of the square root of n.]

That said, this week's cumulative Covid-assigned deaths for the US as a whole are on track for a significant decrease.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.
 
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tacomancer said:
I am not the one who made the assertion. I am currently neutral on the topic of whether california (or any other state) was badmouthed or not (because its a very petty concern), so convince me :shrug:
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I am not the one who made the assertion
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But you're one who poo pooed Calf now leading the way with the virus?(LOL)
 
Luther said:
But you're one who poo pooed Calf now leading the way with the virus?(LOL)
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I agreed that more of the citizenry should have social distanced and wear masks, sure, but that is a problem everywhere and not specifically California. It happens here in Akron too. I went on a date last night with my girlfriend for example and we are constantly challenged with finding safe venues where idiots without masks are not allowed.
 
tacomancer said:
I agreed that more of the citizenry should have social distanced and wear masks, sure, but that is a problem everywhere and not specifically California. It happens here in Akron too. I went on a date last night with my girlfriend for example and we are constantly challenged with finding safe venues where idiots without masks are not allowed.
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I agreed that more of the citizenry should have social distanced and wear masks
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Yes, especially Calif?

, but that is a problem everywhere and not specifically California.
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But calif is leading the way

California has most COVID-19 cases in U.S., surpassing N.Y. - Los Angeles Times
 
Paradoxical said:
What is strange about this is that it is apparent that certain countries did better and the reasons are very unclear. There is really no concrete information to tell us why one country that locks down and everyone wears masks has a high death rate per million compared to other countries that also locked down. I think a lot of it has to do with how these countries are reporting COVID deaths They aren't under the same constraints and rules as the US as they don't get more money by calling a death COVID caused. Here in America, it is a joke as to masks. We had people rioting without masks and no reports of excess deaths. The rally Trump had was pretty much mask free and if there were loads of deaths, the left would be screaming so I have to think there weren't.

There is something very strange going on here and I can't quite figure it out yet other than I am certain the left wants to use this to get Trump out and that includes the media who would report on excess deaths from his rally in a nanosecond and they didn't meaning there were none.
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I postponed a response to give it additional thought. Then, during reading I ran across an op-ed by John Hinderaker ( Posted on August 7, 2020 by John Hinderaker , Coronavirus,
COVID and the Death of Common Sense) who quoted Lionel Shriver (at the Spectator) which well sums my thoughts on the situation.
Cut and paste being easier than composing and typing, I offer the following:

"There’s nothing unprecedented about COVID-19 itself. The equally novel, equally infectious Asian flu of 1957 had commensurate fatalities in Britain: scaled up for today’s population, the equivalent of 42,000, while the UK’s (statistically flawed) COVID death total now stands at 46,000. Globally, the Asian flu was vastly more lethal, causing between two and four million deaths. The Hong Kong flu of 1968-69 also slew up to four million people worldwide, including 80,000 Britons. Yet in both instances, life went on.
What is unprecedented: never has a virus been so oversold."

NOW, comes the hype:

"In a recent Kekst CNC poll, British respondents estimated that nearly 7 percent of the UK population has died from the coronavirus. That would be 4.5 million people. Scots supposed that more than 10 percent of the UK population has died. That would be seven million people. Astonishingly, Americans believed that COVID has killed nine percent of their compatriots, or almost 30 million people! The real US total has indeed crossed the milestone of 150,000, but for pity’s sake, ‘only’ 20 million people died in World War One."
(Hinderaker at: COVID and the Death of Common Sense | Power Line ).

Mrs. P, in medicine for a few decades, works directly with
CV-19 patients in isolation; this gives me an exceptional (for a medical outsider) view of the machinations of the CDC, issued protocols, and illness and fatality reports. It becomes obvious that the government "experts", on whom people rely, are ill equipped to be initiating protocols and advisements. They are not listening to the professionals in the field doing the actual work.
Make it a great day P .
 
tacomancer said:
Ok, so what does this have to do with whether this or that group praises or condemns a state that you brought up? And also, why should I care beyond a general awareness that people in general are idiots.
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Ok, so what does this have to do with whether this or that group praises or condemns a state that you brought up?
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Calf has now the highest cases and Dems/leftist concentrate on what happens in Texas/Florida


Come on Taco
 
Luther said:
Calf has now the highest cases and Dems/leftist concentrate on what happens in Texas/Florida


Come on Taco
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You have yet to prove this.
 
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