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FDA Chief: HCQ Use A Decision Between A Doctor And A Patient

ReubenSherr said:
It's summed up on the site. There's a summary of each study.

"PrEP, PEP, and early treatment studies show high effectiveness, while late treatment shows mixed results."

If you don't trust the anonymity of the site, you can search for any one of these studies, everything I've searched for so far has checked out

The reason it's so surprising to you, most likely, is that the liberal media outlets have hit the same 2 or 3 anti-HCQ studies so many times, these studies get buried in search engines
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That’s completely wrong. As I’ve told you multiple times, they are lying about the Boulware study.

You haven’t ‘checked out’ jack ****.

You don’t even know where that site is from and who the anonymous authors are. You had to ask BUBBA- if all people!- to tell you because you’re too lazy or incompetent to figure it out yourself.

Sad.
 
ReubenSherr said:
The study done on which date? And what specifically are they "lying" about?
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You don’t know this significant trial, and you can’t even be bothered to ‘check it out’.

I’ve told you three times.

I’m not sure if you’re trying to look ridiculous here, but I think you’ve peaked.
 
Threegoofs said:
You don’t know this significant trial, and you can’t even be bothered to ‘check it out’.

I’ve told you three times.
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No, I haven't memorized all 66 studies. Which date are you referring to, and what specifically are they lying about?

Most importantly, if Hahn felt HCQ was dangerous, why would he recommend that physicians make this decision along with their patients?
 
ReubenSherr said:
No, I haven't memorized all 66 studies. Which date are you referring to, and what specifically are they lying about?

Most importantly, if Hahn felt HCQ was dangerous, why would he recommend that physicians make this decision along with their patients?
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Lazy or incompetent.
 
ReubenSherr said:
This is a talking point that you are creating, to throw everybody off.

Bringing up Immanuel to represent HCQ promotion is at the same level as bringing up Jeffrey Epstein to represent the morals of the Democratic Party.

Are you questioning Hahn's credentials? What happened to your concern about the integrity of the FDA?
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I didn’t bring it up, Trump did. I’m surprised you think so little of Trump.


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ReubenSherr said:
It's summed up on the site. There's a summary of each study.

"PrEP, PEP, and early treatment studies show high effectiveness, while late treatment shows mixed results."

If you don't trust the anonymity of the site, you can search for any one of these studies, everything I've searched for so far has checked out

The reason it's so surprising to you, most likely, is that the liberal media outlets have hit the same 2 or 3 anti-HCQ studies so many times, these studies get buried in search engines
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So you can’t point to RCTs that show a benefit.


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George50 said:
I didn’t bring it up, Trump did. I’m surprised you think so little of Trump.
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Trump has very little to do with this thread, this shouldn't even be a political issue.

Physicians should make this choice along with their patients, based on Hahn's recommendation, and the number of studies which have proven HCQ to be beneficial, and even lifesaving.
 
George50 said:
So you can’t point to RCTs that show a benefit.
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Which ones? There are 66 studies listed.

All you have to do is scroll down and read the summaries.

If you really need me to lol, I'll list some studies for you, and the dates. Is this really what you're asking?
 
Airyaman said:
I've been to plenty of doctors who will prescribe medications because they are lazy as hell. Last year I went to a doctor for a persistent cough and he prescribed medication for acid-reflux and sinuses. I can understand one or the other, but not both. He did zero tests on me.

So sure, work it out with your (quack) doctor.
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Remember all the people who went to Mexico to get Laetril for their cancer after it was found to be completely worthless?

Oh, no one remembers them, they all died 40 years ago.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Which ones? There are 66 studies listed.

All you have to do is scroll down and read the summaries.

If you really need me to lol, I'll list some studies for you, and the dates. Is this really what you're asking?
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Hey, who is running your infamous 66 studies website?
 
ReubenSherr said:
The FDA commissioner disgrees with you. ;)

I'm "obsessed" with this because people are dying because Fauci is getting in the way of physicians prescribing HCQ. I want people to live, not die.
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That is a lie. Fauci has no authority over the use of HCQ.
 
ReubenSherr said:
No, I haven't memorized all 66 studies. Which date are you referring to, and what specifically are they lying about?

Most importantly, if Hahn felt HCQ was dangerous, why would he recommend that physicians make this decision along with their patients?
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Hahn is only stating that the FDA does not prohibit a doctor from prescribing any marketable drug to their patients. He said that the FDA does not regulate the practice of medicine. On the other hand the FDA does not recommend HCQ for COVID-19, but they do not prohibit it. Even though Hahn thinks it is a bad idea he has to say it’s up to the doctor. Why can you not understand this?


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George50 said:
Even though Hahn thinks it is a bad idea he has to say it’s up to the doctor.
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Where is your source than Hahn thinks this is a bad idea?

This is the exact same argument Republicans have been using since the start of the pandemic.

The choice should be left to the physician and the patient.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Which ones? There are 66 studies listed.

All you have to do is scroll down and read the summaries.

If you really need me to lol, I'll list some studies for you, and the dates. Is this really what you're asking?
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You are the one who has claimed there are many RCTs that support the use of HCQ. I can show you 4 that show there is no benefit. You still haven’t shown us one that shows a benefit.


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George50 said:
You are the one who has claimed there are many RCTs that support the use of HCQ. I can show you 4 that show there is no benefit. You still haven’t shown us one that shows a benefit.
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George, all you have to do is click on the link, and scroll down. Every study that concluded that HCQ is beneficial is marked "Positive" in Red. Click on the description of the study, and an entire paragraph summary comes up, and you can tell which ones are RCTs.

COVID-19 Treatment - Analysis of 66 global studies showing high effectiveness for early treatment
 
ReubenSherr said:
Where is your source than Hahn thinks this is a bad idea?

This is the exact same argument Republicans have been using since the start of the pandemic.

The choice should be left to the physician and the patient.
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Hahn runs the FDA, the FDA removed their emergency authorization, thus they do not approve of its use for COVID-19.

The choice has always been up to the doctor. Why do you keep saying that Fauci or whoever has kept patients from using the drug? If someone did not get the drug that’s because either the patient did not want it or the doctor would not prescribe it.


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ReubenSherr said:
George, all you have to do is click on the link, and scroll down. Every study that concluded that HCQ is beneficial is marked "Positive" in Red. Click on the description of the study, and an entire paragraph summary comes up, and you can tell which ones are RCTs.

COVID-19 Treatment - Analysis of 66 global studies showing high effectiveness for early treatment
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And you can’t find any RCTs that are marked positive but you claim they are there.


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George50 said:
Hahn runs the FDA, the FDA removed their emergency authorization, thus they do not approve of its use for COVID-19.
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False. The FDA does not approve of its use in Emergency Room situations, where attending physicians are not familiar with the patient's medical history.

Hence the reason Hahn clearly stated that the decision of whether or not to prescribe HCQ should be left to personal physicians.

If the FDA did not approve of its use, Hahn would clearly state that no physician should prescribe it under any circumstance.
 
George50 said:
And you can’t find any RCTs that are marked positive but you claim they are there.
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Did you look lol? There are tons. Would you like me to point one out for you? Come on...

The study dated 6/5 is an RCT.

Lol please find the others by clicking on the links on your own. It is easy.
 
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ReubenSherr said:
Did you look lol? There are tons. Would you like me to point one out for you? Come on...

The study dated 6/5 is an RCT.

Lol please find the others by clicking on the links on your own. It is easy.
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The 6/5 study is marked negative. Does that mean you are finally agreeing that there is no benefit?


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ReubenSherr said:
False. The FDA does not approve of its use in Emergency Room situations, where attending physicians are not familiar with the patient's medical history.

Hence the reason Hahn clearly stated that the decision of whether or not to prescribe HCQ should be left to personal physicians.

If the FDA did not approve of its use, Hahn would clearly state that no physician should prescribe it under any circumstance.
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You don’t even know the history of the FDA’s position. The FDA did approve of it’s use under an “Emergency Use Authorization” which they have since revoked. You are also confused because that has nothing to do with Emergency Rooms. Both just have the word emergency in them which probably confused you.

As Hahn stated the FDA does not regulate the practice of Medicine and thus he would NEVER say no physician should prescribe it. Again doctors can prescribe drugs that are marketed in the US off label (for uses which the FDA has not approved) which you are also confused about. This is very common and actually amounts to about 20% of all prescriptions.

Off-Label Drugs: What You Need to Know | Agency for Health Research and Quality

The only one keeping a patient from getting HCQ would be their doctor. Not mean old Fauci, not the FDA, not Democrats or liberals. That’s just all another of your nonsense conspiracy theories.


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