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Poll: 150,000 COVID-19 deaths

Did you think 150,000 people would die?

  • Yes, there will be more death under Trump

    Votes: 13 86.7%

  • No, I'm surprised

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
Crossfire said:
But I thought the response to the pandemic was horrible. If the response was so horrible, how is it we have 90%+ LESS deaths than predicted? Either the virus is not as bad as predicted, or the response is not as bad as described. You cannot have it both ways.
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You do nothing => 2 million dead

You do it right => we could be open with some restrictions now and very low cases / new deaths like most countries, for months

You do it wrong => you get US case with top-10 per capita cases and top-10 per capita deaths among major countries AND still rising a lot in both

You are welcome
 
Casper said:
You could look at that way or you can look at it from trumps predictions of what was going to happen and we have 90% more deaths than predicted.

I would say 150,000 deaths in a little over 5 months is pretty awful and we are not even nearly done yet. No we are not doing a good job of dealing with the Pandemic.
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Why would you go by Trumps prediction when you believe he does not like science, and is not a scientist himself. The "experts" were saying we would have magnitudes more deaths. The leftists are saying the response was FUBAR. We actually have over 90% less deaths than predicted. Either the response was not as horrible as the left would like us to believe, or the "experts" are not very reliable. Which is it?
 
Casper said:
There are people that say they won't even take the vaccine for the virus, life is full of choices, some can cost you your life.
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Their body, their choice. As for me, I prefer feeling the needle to the illness.
 
Crossfire said:
Why would you go by Trumps prediction when you believe he does not like science, and is not a scientist himself. The "experts" were saying we would have magnitudes more deaths. The leftists are saying the response was FUBAR. We actually have over 90% less deaths than predicted. Either the response was not as horrible as the left would like us to believe, or the "experts" are not very reliable. Which is it?
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LOL, obviously your mind does not see from different directions, thinking hard? The experts said 2.2 M deaths if we did nothing, why is that you cannot grasp that fact, oh wait you think we are doing great. I will take the word of medical experts over an inept moron any day of the week, you on the other hand………..
 
Casper said:
LOL, obviously your mind does not see from different directions, thinking hard? The experts said 2.2 M deaths if we did nothing, why is that you cannot grasp that fact, oh wait you think we are doing great. I will take the word of medical experts over an inept moron any day of the week, you on the other hand………..
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You seem to be the one with the comprehension problem. I know that the "experts" were saying 2.2M deaths if we did nothing. What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that if the response was as bad as the left claims, then we would be way closer to that 2.2M than we are now. Hell, half the time, the left acts as if the response was worse than doing nothing.
 
What if...? said:
Yet every single thing that readily crosses state lines is under federal jurisdiction.
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That's not universally true either. Take driver licenses for example. State reciprocity governs whether your driver's license is valid or not, not the Feds. Same with fishing and pistol licenses.

Domestically, the Feds only exist to govern disputes among the states. When the states agree and contract with each other, the Fed has zero authority.

My point is that the Fed cannot mandate the entire nation to wear masks. The Fed never did and does not have that kind of authority. This is why enforceable mask mandates come from the office of the Governors, not Trump.
 
CLAX1911 said:
When you're telling someone you disagree with their in a cult because they're expressing a different political view than you, and everyone that expresses that political view is part of the cult then you are saying exactly that.
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I can disagree with many people, but not all or even many of them are in Trump Cult, which is people specifically pushing propaganda that Trump is pushing.

So no, I never said what you ascribe to me.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Oh so his prediction was in an alternate timeline how convenient.
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His prediction, as you know, was done BEFORE we did all the shutdown and other measures. He had different predictions for different kinds of measures.
 
Crossfire said:
You seem to be the one with the comprehension problem. I know that the "experts" were saying 2.2M deaths if we did nothing. What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that if the response was as bad as the left claims, then we would be way closer to that 2.2M than we are now. Hell, half the time, the left acts as if the response was worse than doing nothing.
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That is your opinion or failed attempt at logic, neither is accurate. I have never said that what we did was worse than doing nothing, so you must be thinking of some other poster here, i only speak for myself.
 
swing_voter said:
We passed 150,000 COVID-19 deaths.


Did you think that many would die? I certainly didn't.
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Incompetence always brings extremes. Trump is responsible for many unnecessary deaths

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Slavister said:
I can disagree with many people, but not all or even many of them are in Trump Cult, which is people specifically pushing propaganda that Trump is pushing.

So no, I never said what you ascribe to me.
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Yeah just the people you disagree with politically.
 
Casper said:
That is your opinion or failed attempt at logic, neither is accurate. I have never said that what we did was worse than doing nothing, so you must be thinking of some other poster here, i only speak for myself.
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Since you, after this response, equate yourself to the left, I know you have no idea what logic is.
 
Crossfire said:
Since you, after this response, equate yourself to the left, I know you have no idea what logic is.
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I get labeled that so I wear the title, but actually near dead center in my overall views, you know, the place logic still exists.
 
swing_voter said:
We passed 150,000 COVID-19 deaths.
Did you think that many would die? I certainly didn't.
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Back in March or whenever when a predict the number of deaths thread popped up,
I predicted at least 100,000 dead Americans
based on the little we knew at the time.

tbf,
I expected it would take a longer to get here than we did.
 
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