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This is a big problem.

Mongidig said:
People can't maintain social distancing at Walmart. How do you social distance at a protest/riot?
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You're right. It can't be done.

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MTAtech said:
You're right. It can't be done.

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Do you really think they maintained social distancing throughout the protests? Walking in, walking to their cars etc.

What percentage of these "get togethers" look like this? It looks a bit crowded in the back round. What happens when the sun goes down? "Protests" turn into riots don't they?

Stay at home and stop the spread.
 
Mongidig said:
Do you really think they maintained social distancing throughout the protests? Walking in, walking to their cars etc.

What percentage of these "get togethers" look like this? It looks a bit crowded in the back round. What happens when the sun goes down? "Protests" turn into riots don't they?

Stay at home and stop the spread.
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It looks crowded in the background because of visual perspective -- like the moon looking small when it's behind a building.
 
vesper said:
So the right to attend worship Fauci did weigh in on not attending houses of worship at this time. But protesting/rioting? He was weak.

Look if you are going to stand up for All First Amendment rights then you must be willing to stand up for all. If not you become a jive time nickel dime plastic banana.
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Church services that are held indoors with few to no one wearing a mask are more prone to spreading the virus than protests that are held outside with the vast majority wearing masks....and gas masks.
 
Mongidig said:
Jordan is 100% correct on this. Why can't Fauci just say 'I respect individuals first amendment rights, however, gathering in large crowds is very dangerous right now'. Perhaps give suggestions on how to make these "protests" safer. He will give his opinion on every other thing but this. He is being a coward just like every other person who is bullied by the left. He is clearly indirectly saying that these protests are spreading the virus. It should be obvious to all of us that the protests are spreading the virus.

[video]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-testifies-before-house[/video]
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Well your boy threw him under the bus, no disagreements in this establishment allowed. Have you reconsidered that Nation is more important than someone's ego yet? Come on I need a rational conservative to think the reply for a change of pace.
 
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Mongidig said:
Jordan is 100% correct on this.
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No, Jordan is a lowlife piece of crap.
Fauci made it clear that any and all gatherings pose risk, but that ****ing asshole wanted to score a cheap political point, about the only kind he can. Why didn’t the dick ask about the risk at Trump rallies?
Fauci, as a public health official can only asses risk and not make political decisions whether taking the risk is warranted.
 
Casper said:
Well your boy threw him under the bus, no disagreements in this establishment allowed. Have you reconsidered that Nation is more important than someone's ego yet? Come on I need a rational conservative to think the reply for a change of pace.
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Who's my boy?
 
prometeus said:
No, Jordan is a lowlife piece of crap.
Fauci made it clear that any and all gatherings pose risk, but that ****ing asshole wanted to score a cheap political point, about the only kind he can. Why didn’t the dick ask about the risk at Trump rallies?
Fauci, as a public health official can only asses risk and not make political decisions whether taking the risk is warranted.
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Jordan does seem like a douchebag. I thought he brought up good points in this situation.
 
MTAtech said:
It looks crowded in the background because of visual perspective -- like the moon looking small when it's behind a building.
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Did they all walk out of their in that same social distance format? Was there an opening big enough for them all to get out while maintaining distance? What kind of restroom facilities did they have?

Unfortunately, you folks don't have a good understanding of the dangers of this virus and how it spreads.
 
Mongidig said:
Jordan does seem like a douchebag. I thought he brought up good points in this situation.
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And Fauci answered him correctly.

I can tell you that crowds are known, particularly when you don't have a mask, to increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what the crowd is
 
Jordan's an idiot.
 
Mongidig said:
He did.

He will call out any other gathering like sports, concerts or going to church but will not directly call out the "protests". He was squirming big time while trying to answer the question. This is a big reason why many people don't trust this guy. He should just say it. Protesting in large gatherings is not a good idea right now. Then he should leave it to the government to take whatever action is necessary.
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He said a half dozen times something like "ANY" large gathering is dangerous. He was also right that the decision to ban church gatherings or protests is not his - he does not have that authority.

And you and Jordan keep alleging he would speak on banning other activities, like going to church, but no one has quoted Fauci saying what he's been alleged to have said. Do you have a quote so we can compare what he said about churches and concerts or Trump rallies, but refuses to say about protests? I'd be interested in his actual words, versus what someone else alleges he's said.
 
year2late said:
And Fauci answered him correctly.

I can tell you that crowds are known, particularly when you don't have a mask, to increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what the crowd is
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People get on Trump for not taking the pandemic seriously. Why haven't these same people taken the threat of virus spread from protests more seriously?
 
Mongidig said:
People get on Trump for not taking the pandemic seriously. Why haven't these same people taken the threat of virus spread from protests more seriously?
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Who are "these people"
 
JasperL said:
He said a half dozen times something like "ANY" large gathering is dangerous. He was also right that the decision to ban church gatherings or protests is not his - he does not have that authority.

And you and Jordan keep alleging he would speak on banning other activities, like going to church, but no one has quoted Fauci saying what he's been alleged to have said. Do you have a quote so we can compare what he said about churches and concerts or Trump rallies, but refuses to say about protests? I'd be interested in his actual words, versus what someone else alleges he's said.
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On day one of the protests, Fauci should have said 'This is not good for these people to be out there in the middle of a pandemic'. He should have recommended that they do not continue to gather. I heard nothing from him until weeks later.
 
year2late said:
And Fauci answered him correctly.

I can tell you that crowds are known, particularly when you don't have a mask, to increase the acquisition and transmission, no matter what the crowd is
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He should just come out and say people should not be out there protesting in large gatherings. If he said this people may have stopped. Tens of thousands of lives could have been saved.

He probably would have gotten death threats and people rioting outside his home. This is why he chose not to.
 
AJG said:
:confused: I know many people who have gone to protests and they go there because they're protesting police brutality and racism. Are you saying they're there for a different reason or the rioters specifically are there for a different reason?
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No. They're sheep.
 
Mongidig said:
I'm shocked that we are several months into this and people still don't get it.

Wearing masks + social distancing + washing hands is how you reduce the spread.
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State governors don't think so. Fl, Tx, Az etc.
 
trixare4kids said:
You will get no argument from me. I've been pointing out the hypocrisy for the last couple of months. They're okay to protest but you're not okay to go to church. Btw, at the Lewis funeral yesterday, clearly it was OKAY to go to church.
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Yes, the service was in Georgia and churches were never closed in Georgia. Everyone else in Georgia can go to church just like the attendees at that funeral. They all had on masks, and were spread apart, attendance clearly limited to 1/4 capacity or so.
 
Mongidig said:
There are a few folks on here who get triggered by my Ivanka avatar and want to argue with everything. We have a lot of bigoted angry people on here.
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You clearly weren't aware of Fauci's comments, posted a dishonest OP, were confronted with a series of quotes that proved the lie in Jim Jordan's comments and yours, and didn't have the integrity to address that post. It's hackery, like Jim Jordan's fake complaints. Fauci said many times ANY large gathering is a risk, in that hearing. He's DIRECTLY addressed protests many times before, contrary to hack Jordan's whining in that hearing.

Trump says smear Fauci, the lemmings and sycophants like Jordan follow along. It's pathetic to watch. And in the meantime, the GOP braintrust consists of idiots like Trump and Gohmert.
 
Tlrmln said:
I don't know who the "Trumpist" is, but I do know that the OP was specifically referencing an event in the news TODAY, where Fauci avoided talking about the protests like the plague even when he was repeatedly asked about it. The fact that you can't see an obvious change of heart in the facts that YOU presented is precious, to say the least.

And by the way, I don't really blame Fauci for not wanting to get in the middle of this. If I were him, I wouldn't want "protesters" showing up at my house and launching fireworks through my windows. I'm sure he's terrified, from both ends, and rightfully so.
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Fauci said a half dozen times ANY large gathering is dangerous. For some stupid reason, Jordan thinks it's Fauci's job to recommend shutting down anything, protests, churches, etc. It's not his job. He can say the protests are dangerous like all other large gatherings, which he did say, many times, in that hearing. It's up to governors, mayors and TRUMP to to make policy choices based on that advice.

Fauci has become a right wing fall guy, and this is more of the same. SAD!
 
Acadia said:
I'd be more angry at Fauci, but I understand self preservation. He's choosing to not get death threats and have his home attacked and surrounded. He does not want to end his career being convicted of being a racist bigot by the woke mob.
It takes a really strong person to stand up to the regressives. Not everyone can stand up and do what's right.

Condemning the massive gatherings and the ridiculous marathon funerals while the religious can't even worship would be the right thing to do.
That's never going to be Fauci. He's been drinking from the gov't trough for decades. He's not going to bite the hand.
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He did 'condemn' the rallies. Why do you guys keep ignoring his actual words, posted many times on this thread. Why not reply to those posts and deal with his actual comments? Were they not forceful enough for your tastes? What should he have said, given he has no power or authority to shut anything down?
 
vesper said:
Good grief ttwit no nationwide dusk to dawn curfew. Geesh. This is a state issue.
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Good point, so it's not Fauci's job to shut anything down, and yet Jim Jordan's entire line of questioning assumed it was his job to recommend something like a nationwide curfew, a nationwide ban, or something, who the hell knows. What Fauci kept pointing out, a half dozen times or more, is what you just said - it's not his job to shut down protests.

States should be holding protesters to the same standards they are holding their citizens to. If you are forcing businesses to close, demanding they all wear masks, social distance, not allowing people to attend worship services, then the damn protesters need to be held to the same damn standards. If not, then this exercise is an outrageous revealing a double standard that can not be ignored.

If gathering in large groups is a damn threat then protesters need to be forced to curtail their activities. Give them a piece of real estate where they can gather wearing masks, social distancing. Use a curfew to end it at a decent hour. If they congregate elsewhere, gather them up on buses and process them for criminal activitly. Anything less is a slap in the face to all others who have tried very hard to follow the mandates and allow this bunch to skate free from not adhering.
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Great - so why is Fauci relevant to this?
 
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