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Why Are leftist Not concern with the Huge Calif Virus problem?

Paradoxical said:
Yeah, right. How come we weren't informed of the COVID problem for a month then? You should move there anyway. You love totalitarianism.
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This is one of the first and most egregious and persistent lies Dirtbag (and enablers like you) started and spread and keep spreading (no lie ever dies in the Cult of Dirtbag).

Late November-December 2019: U.S. intelligence agencies warn of a “cataclysmic” and “out-of-control” disease in Wuhan, China.

The Pentagon’s National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) circulates a report identifying a contagion sweeping through Wuhan, China. NCMI bases its report on wire intercepts, computer intercepts, and satellite images. “Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event,” a source tells ABC News (in April 2020).
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Dirtbag should have known about this nearly two months before it hit the US. But, of course, he doesn't read his PDBs (he just doesn't read...period).

December 30, 2019: A whistleblower, Chinese doctor Li Wenliang, alerts more than 100 of his colleagues about a new disease in Wuhan in a widely circulated post on social media.

“7 SARS cases confirmed at Hua’nan Seafood Market,” cautions Dr. Li in a WeChat group with more than 100 of his medical-school classmates. After another group member warns that the group chat might be censored, Dr. Li adds: “Coronavirus confirmed, and type being determined … Don’t leak it. Tell your family and relatives to take care.”

December 31, 2019: Wuhan officials confirm treatment of dozens of cases of pneumonia with an unknown cause.

Health authorities in the Chinese city of Wuhan confirm that there are dozens of cases of pneumonia that originate from an unknown cause.
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Any effort of the Chinese government to suppress this story disappeared well before any US case was reported. IOW, it's a pure lie that the Chinese government kept the world from knowing.
January-February 2020: U.S. intelligence agencies issue over a dozen detailed warnings about the threat of the virus in the President’s Daily Brief, and issue classified reports about the virus; senior U.S. officials begin to form a task force.....
“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” a U.S. official with access to the classified briefings told the Washington Post. “The system was blinking red.”
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And it was at this point the Dirtbag himself began serial praising the Chinese government:

15 times Trump praised China as coronavirus was spreading across the globe - POLITICO

Dirtbag's negligence, incompetence, obstruction and lying in his disastrous handling of the covid epidemic has been thoroughly and repeatedly documented.
 
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Paradoxical said:
Nope. The death tolls were WITH their recommendations being followed.
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Nope

So, um, masks every flu season now? Why not? No way to tell how many snowflakes could melt, right?
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Oh, this only going to get much worse when there's flu and covid circulating at the same time so absolutely YES. I almost feel like heartily encouraging you to be the test case for not doing anything to protect yourself but that would also mean that you'd probably become the Covid Mary for this epidemic.
 
Citizen said:
Have you seen the rate of death in New York lately? Lock down works
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What is the death rate in California? Lock downs don’t work and they are more destructive to the society.
Of course protesters are exempt from lockdowns.
 
Paradoxical said:
You're right. I forgot. Yo are not uip on things because MSM hasn't told you.

The cure for your ignorance is to pay more attention to my postings.

PS< I hope this helps
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Do you not realize what a joke you are on yourself? I'm almost beginning to feel sorry for you.
 
Outlook said:
What is the death rate in California? Lock downs don’t work and they are more destructive to the society.
Of course protesters are exempt from lockdowns.
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Lock downs did work and the proof they did are the spikes in deaths everywhere that opened up to0 early, too much and too fast, if they ever really had any serious lockdown to begin with (e.g. FL). As predicted once lockdowns went away it would be impossible to re-impose them and that's what's happening in states the were doing well (e.g., CA) are now not doing so well--although still nowhere near as badly as TX, AL, MS, GA, FL, TN, IA, etc. etc.
 
Outlook said:
What is the death rate in California? Lock downs don’t work and they are more destructive to the society.
Of course protesters are exempt from lockdowns.
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California opened up too soon. We are talking about New York here
 
Outlook said:
Really

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Your point is that people did not really lockdown? It is really tough to do when a million people live on you block.

The reality is that New Yorkers, along with the rest of the country, aren’t truly staying inside all day, safe from exposure to COVID-19, the disease the coronavirus causes.
 
Paradoxical said:
ummmmm, that's because about a million horses were already out of the barn. We weren't told before that that it STARTED in Wuhan on 11-17-20.

Good try though. The ban didn't do anything because America was already infected bigly from 11-17-20 on.

Do you not read my work? Pay more attention to my posts so you can learn what really goes on in the world.
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So why do you keep mentioning Trump's China ban then? Because as lame as it was it is the ONLY thing you can point to when asked what Trump did to protect us from the virus? That is sad. If Trump had done the things other leaders did for their people most covid 19 deaths could have been avoided. That makes Trump a mass murderer as well as an incompetent boob.

A faster response could have prevented most U.S. Covid-19 deaths - STAT
 
Citizen said:
Have you seen the rate of death in New York lately? Lock down works
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Lock downs are a temporary measure to flatten the curve... they don't make the virus go away. Inevitably, the less exposure to a new virus will only proliferate once things begin to normalize, and this is exactly what we've seen after protests and riots occurred (and continue to occur) across the United States. It is estimated that between 15 - 26 million people have participated in protests since the death of George Floyd -- that's roughly 5 - 8% of the United States population.
 
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Paradoxical said:
So, had he not done, it's a certainty that guy would have known about the virus? WHERE in the world do idiots come up with crap like that?
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That was his only job Einstein, so yes the fact that he was not there doing that job was not helpful. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
 
jotathought said:
Lock downs are a temporary measure to flatten the curve... they don't make the virus go away. Inevitably, the less exposure to a new virus will only proliferate once things begin to normalize, and this is exactly what we've seen after protests and riots occurred (and continue to occur) across the United States.
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Reducing the new cases to a level that allows contact tracing is the only safe way to reopen. None of the red States did that and we all are paying the price. CDC guidelines are worthless if you don't follow them...Duh
 
digitusmedius said:
Do you not realize what a joke you are on yourself? I'm almost beginning to feel sorry for you.
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I find that every single one of you progressive/socialist/liberal posters here are so ill informed, that I often forget its because of your indoctrination by MSM. It's like someone that has been living in a basement and only watches CNN and MSNBS all day long. All they are filled with is hate against Trump and that America is bad. When you listen to that stuff all day long, your mind cannot tell the difference between fact and fiction. Kinda like someone being locked in a room and being taught that the bible is 100% true all their lives. Being told to hate America by MSM has a deleterious affect on young minds.
 
jotathought said:
Lock downs are a temporary measure to flatten the curve... they don't make the virus go away. Inevitably, the less exposure to a new virus will only proliferate once things begin to normalize, and this is exactly what we've seen after protests and riots occurred (and continue to occur) across the United States. It is estimated that between 15 - 26 million people have participated in protests since the death of George Floyd -- that's roughly 5 - 8% of the United States population.
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A couple of weeks is all you need. The states that had the least amount of protest are seeing the most cases of the virus.
 
digitusmedius said:
Lock downs did work and the proof they did are the spikes in deaths everywhere that opened up to0 early, too much and too fast, if they ever really had any serious lockdown to begin with (e.g. FL). As predicted once lockdowns went away it would be impossible to re-impose them and that's what's happening in states the were doing well (e.g., CA) are now not doing so well--although still nowhere near as badly as TX, AL, MS, GA, FL, TN, IA, etc. etc.
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Please look at Sweden's death rate now and they NEVER locked down.

Sweden is a prime example of how to handle this. NO ONE has yet explained to me how and why Sweden's death rate is almost nil now WITHOUT any lock down or shuttered businesses.

I expect you too to ignore this fact like an ostrich.
 
iguanaman said:
So why do you keep mentioning Trump's China ban then? Because as lame as it was it is the ONLY thing you can point to when asked what Trump did to protect us from the virus? That is sad. If Trump had done the things other leaders did for their people most covid 19 deaths could have been avoided. That makes Trump a mass murderer as well as an incompetent boob.

A faster response could have prevented most U.S. Covid-19 deaths - STAT
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I only bring it up to show he did what was right at the time to the hoots and howls of the PC crowd. He wasn't informed by China this started on 11-17.

It is 100% correct the lock down was worthless because China sent over a million Chinese before that and has thousands of lives on their hands.
 
iguanaman said:
Reducing the new cases to a level that allows contact tracing is the only safe way to reopen. None of the red States did that and we all are paying the price. CDC guidelines are worthless if you don't follow them...Duh
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Why is it a red v. blue conversation? Is the virus biased in who it attacks?

States are performing contact tracing protocols and have been ramping up efforts to scale -- their challenge is the significant amount of resources required for contact tracing and how to fund it. Budget shortfalls and unknown federal assistance have required states to use different methods to manage contact tracing: in-house, contracting or partnerships.
 
iguanaman said:
That was his only job Einstein, so yes the fact that he was not there doing that job was not helpful. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
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So, you just assume this fired guy would have known about something like that? May I have your evidence?

Scratch that. You just have claims and speculations.

Trump is supposed to have known that if this guy was not fired he would have uncovered that China was hiding the fact that a virus was on the loose? I thought you guys are defending China and we're not even supposed to call it the WuFlu?
 
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Paradoxical said:
Please look at Sweden's death rate now and they NEVER locked down.

Sweden is a prime example of how to handle this. NO ONE has yet explained to me how and why Sweden's death rate is almost nil now WITHOUT any lock down or shuttered businesses.

I expect you too to ignore this fact like an ostrich.
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Ignore it! Man, I would have paid you to bring up Sweden which is No. 20 for the highest per capita death rate of over 200 hundred countries. Yeah, better than the U.S. but that wouldn't be hard considering your Dear Dirtbag's massive bungling.
 
eman623 said:
Both, but what we're seeing now is herd immunity in NY. Other states like California are also locked down but seeing spikes.
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So you don't know what herd immunity is then? For Covid 19 it requires that 50 to 67% of the population has immunity to the disease. About 20% of NY residents have been estimated to have has covid 19 so there is no herd immunity in NY. They have kept new cases down by following CDC guidelines which is a novel effort here. Cali is having problems because of reopening with inadequate contact tracing. Trump refuse to allow the Federal Govt. to help with that and State resources cannot handle it. It really all comes back to Trump's stubborn incompetence.

When does a community reach herd immunity? It depends on the reproduction number, or R0. The R0 tells you the average number of people that a single person with the virus can infect if those people aren’t already immune. The higher the R0, the more people need to be resistant to reach herd immunity.

Researchers think that the R0 for COVID-19 is between 2 and 3. This means that one person can infect two to three other people. It also means 50% to 67% of the population would need to be resistant before herd immunity kicks in and the infection rates start to go down.
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Herd Immunity: What Is It and Can It End The Coronavirus Pandemic?
 
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Paradoxical said:
I find that every single one of you progressive/socialist/liberal posters here are so ill informed, that I often forget its because of your indoctrination by MSM. It's like someone that has been living in a basement and only watches CNN and MSNBS all day long. All they are filled with is hate against Trump and that America is bad. When you listen to that stuff all day long, your mind cannot tell the difference between fact and fiction. Kinda like someone being locked in a room and being taught that the bible is 100% true all their lives. Being told to hate America by MSM has a deleterious affect on young minds.
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Of course, you "find" that because you're 100% indoctrinated by the Cult of Your Dear Dirtbag. It's impossible for you to distinguish between facts and lies. You're as fully programmed as the most advanced robot could be. This is why I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. You're basically a helpless automaton now who is under outside control.
 
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