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Who Do You Believe

Who Do You Believe?

  • Dr. Fauci

    Votes: 71 91.0%
  • Trump

    Votes: 7 9.0%

  • Total voters
    78
  • Poll closed .

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Who do you believe regarding hydroxychloroquine?



 
Which one believes diseases are caused by demonic inseminations again?
 
The fact that there's a national debate on whether to believe a world renowned, experienced virologist or a barely literate reality TV show host in a pandemic is the surest sign America's education system has failed.

S. O. S.
 
One thing I forgot to mention in the OP. Both of these statements (Fauci's and Trump's) were made less than 48 hours ago. They are recent.
 
The smart people believe Fauci. The morons believe Trump.

So far, all votes have gone to Fauci, suggesting Trump supports are staying away and not wanting to make their votes official. It is just like them to run away and hide when they absolutely cannot win a debate with BS.
 
:lamo No one believes serial liar Trump. Oh, how I wish he could see this and hurt his butt even more!!
 
Who do you believe regarding hydroxychloroquine?

It isn't a question of "who" you believe, it is a question of "what" you believe.

I believe that hydroxychloroquine seems to have positive results in certain situations and is not effective at all in other situations. It is by no means a "cure" and other than it's current status as a political football, it's significance in the battle against COVID-19 is minimal.
 
Who do you believe regarding hydroxychloroquine?





lol...I don't even need to hear the question. Trump lies so often, the assumption that he is lying can be taken at face value. Fauci, otoh, has been nothing but truthful.
 
:lamo No one believes serial liar Trump. Oh, how I wish he could see this and hurt his butt even more!!

At this point, anyone still believing Trump needs a head exam. It's probably fair to say that even those out in the world who say they believe him do not.
 
Which one believes diseases are caused by demonic inseminations again?

We don't know anything anymore about hydroxy. At the demand of Democrats, MSM and corporate media is hiding it from us.
 
We don't know anything anymore about hydroxy. At the demand of Democrats, MSM and corporate media is hiding it from us.
 
We don't know anything anymore about hydroxy. At the demand of Democrats, MSM and corporate media is hiding it from us.

We know that it isn't a cure and at this point, that's really all that matters.
 
We know that it isn't a cure and at this point, that's really all that matters.

I was wanting to hear what several doctors said about it just a few days ago. I heard there was a video around that would give further details. It was on FB, Twitter and YouTube I can't find it. It's like I'm dreaming that I woke up in some Orwellian country in the future where corporations run the world because they donate to both parties and keep news from the people.

Can someone wake me up, please?
 
I was wanting to hear what several doctors said about it just a few days ago. I heard there was a video around that would give further details. It was on FB, Twitter and YouTube I can't find it. It's like I'm dreaming that I woke up in some Orwellian country in the future where corporations run the world because they donate to both parties and keep news from the people.

Can someone wake me up, please?

This one?

 
I believe Karen Whitsett, the Michigan rep who credited HCQ with saving her life.



And I also believe physicians with firsthhand experience.



BTW if this poll were in the Polls Forum, results would be much different ;)
 
We don't know anything anymore about hydroxy. At the demand of Democrats, MSM and corporate media is hiding it from us.

I have no idea where you are coming out with this BS (bolded part).

Here are ALL the studies done throughout the entire world and that is not something that the Democrats, MSM and corporate media can keep under wraps. These results show what the studies show but the conclusion at the end after reading all the studies (some showing some positive results) is that the medicine is not reliable for helping people get through the virus. Yes, it has helped some people under some circumstances but not enough to be considered a dependable medicine for the virus like Remsidevir is.

If this doesn't convince you totally about what HCQ can and cannot do, then facts and data are not important to you. That, of course, would not be a surprise given your history of posting here on this board.

Read the article yourself. It is from a medical source and not a media or bias source.
 
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As Jack Fabulous said, it's not who you believe but what. Unfortunately studies around HCQ have become politicized and thus a barrier to revealing the truth. The most valid statistical analysis on the most carefully selected randomized, double-blinded placebo controlled dataset reveals that HCQ is effective as a prophylactic when administered within 0-2 days of exposure, with a time-dependant negative slope, and a 72% decrease of disease when given at day zero of exposure, with a 99% confidence interval to this claim. It is further hypothesized that pre-exposure administration of HCQ will be 72% and higher decrease of the incidence of disease.

For the record, I despise Trump and admire Fauci. Unfortunately, the findings Fauci was presented were demonstrably flawed and were corrected in subsequent statistical review, which I am sure have not garnered much attention. You should read the analysis for yourself, if you are literate in mathematics and statistics: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2007/2007.09477.pdf

HCQ has a place as a prophylactic, but will not help at all once symptoms appear.
 
I believe Karen Whitsett, the Michigan rep who credited HCQ with saving her life.



And I also believe physicians with firsthhand experience.



BTW if this poll were in the Polls Forum, results would be much different ;)


Some positive results have been seen in the studies done. Nonetheless, the key word is that not enough positive results have been shown, especially considering the risks of taking the drug, to use HCQ as a reliable medicine for combating the disease.

Simply speaking, all the studies show that under "some specific conditions" HCQ has helped but not as a medicine for all doctors to recommend as a help or cure for the virus.

To make a point using a not data related example (in other words - sarcasm), If you are under the age of 27, are not a smoker, take Omega 3 supplements every day, eat more than 14 eggs a week, are in good health, are friendly and have a calm character and exercise for 30 minutes a day 3 times a week, HCQ will help you see lesser effects and bring your recovery time from 14 days down to 8 days.

Yes, it works for them. Are you personally in that category?
 
This one?



That must be the one the leftists Corporate Police Boards pulled!! This is like Fahrenheit 451 where books were banned and burned and people had to escape into the forest with the few remaining books that were salvaged and memorize them. We have entered Twilight zone now of a dystopian society where a few unelected and unseen boards control what we see and hear.
 
These poll results aren't surprising.
 
I have no idea where you are coming out with this BS (bolded part).

Here are ALL the studies done throughout the entire world and that is not something that the Democrats, MSM and corporate media can keep under wraps. These results show what the studies show but the conclusion at the end after reading all the studies (some showing some positive results) is that the medicine is not reliable for helping people get through the virus. Yes, it has helped some people under some circumstances but not enough to be considered a dependable medicine for the virus like Remsidevir is.

If this doesn't convince you totally about what HCQ can and cannot do, then facts and data are not important to you. That, of course, would not be a surprise given your history of posting here on this board.

Read the article yourself. It is from a medical source and not a media or bias source.

Please listen to the video

Silenced Frontline Doctors Hold Capitol Hill Press Conference to Challenge Big Tech - YouTube
 
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