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Texas is now in a World of Hurt

code1211 said:
Stunning. Evidence? Link?
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Compare the daily death count on the state of Florida’s dashboard to world o meter. There is often a 100-death undercount on the Florida site.

And, no. It’s not stunning.
 
year2late said:
And our POTUS is not incorporating Fauci's expert recomendations on a regular basis. He may not be doing #firefauci any more, but his own words and actions go against common sense recommendations of Dr Fauci.

Again.......we should have been pushed top down to wear masks, distance, stay away from crowds, practice hand (etc) hygiene. That was the way for our leader to show us what we could do. What we got was "liberate" ...and calls to attend huge indoor rallies without need for masks or distancing.

We should have been doing this MONTHS ago with top down leadership. He (and we) blew it . We could have been "open" back in June if he (and we) had done our part with the simple measures.
But instead.....we need to start now and all we get bad and worse choices.
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Drs. Fauci and Birx have BOTH said that they have never had a request refused by the President. If you are going to make an assertion, why not deal in facts?

We are not a single government like a Germany or a France. We are a Constitutional Republic operating with a Federalized structure. The States operate, authorize and license the healthcare facilities within their borders.

The governors are in control.

In the State of New York, there was a "top down" approach implemented. How'd that work in your estimate?

As a means of comparison, Texas, in a world of hurt according to this thread, has suffered 272 Covid Deaths/million people while New York has suffered 1,687/million.

Which parts or how much of the Constitution do you propose we dissolve to implement your vision of a wise approach?

The Federal Government has done what a Federal Government can do. It has helped in every way possible given the limitations provided by and demanded by the real world.

There will very likely be an effective vaccine rolled out before the election BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ACTED.

His attempts to close travel to and from foreign hot spots were opposed by the irrational Democrat-Socialists and their biased, brain dead stenographers in the media.

United States Coronavirus: 4,974,024 Cases and 161,620 Deaths - Worldometer
 
code1211 said:
What is "the right thing" and why have you held it as a secret over the last six months?

How much of the The Constitution do you propose be vaporized by the President to implement whatever programs you feel are needed and that you are keeping secret?
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Actually wearing masks, washing your hands, and social distancing, meaning no large groups, no secret been said for months, but some people don't want to comply.

We have lost no Constitutional Rights and wont.
 
code1211 said:
Drs. Fauci and Birx have BOTH said that they have never had a request refused by the President.
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Can you point to quotes and context?
 
snakestretcher said:
Oh please; your idiot in chief just gave the most cringeworthy, ignorant and inept interview I have ever seen from someone purporting to be a world leader. How can anyone possibly defend such stupidity?
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Speaking of ANY topic, idea or concept, saying, "It is what it is" is both self evident and a circular reference.

Regarding your outrage, it is what it is.
 
calamity said:
Compare the daily death count on the state of Florida’s dashboard to world o meter. There is often a 100-death undercount on the Florida site.

And, no. It’s not stunning.
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So, then, no links.

What you post is interesting. I begs the question, where do the statistics from the various states and the statistics from Worldometer originate?

In Indiana, the Indiana Dept. of Health publishes 2,811 deaths. Worldometer publishes 3,013. Indiana adds deaths after the fact as COD is better defined.

In California, apparently what YOU would call a "Republican State", the Worldometer count is also higher than the California Count. 10,028 W and 9,869 from C.

Do you have any real world fact to support your illusion of bias stated as you stated it?



ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)

United States Coronavirus: 5,032,805 Cases and 162,812 Deaths - Worldometer
 
code1211 said:
Speaking of ANY topic, idea or concept, saying, "It is what it is" is both self evident and a circular reference.

Regarding your outrage, it is what it is.
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Trump's offhand, insensitive and dismissive statement is clear for all to understand. He simply either doesn't give a damn, or has no conception of the severity of the disease. I wonder how the relatives of the deceased feel when he shrugs his shoulders and tells them; "they die, it is what it is". How comforting.
 
Casper said:
Actually wearing masks, washing your hands, and social distancing, meaning no large groups, no secret been said for months, but some people don't want to comply.

We have lost no Constitutional Rights and wont.
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So, then, whatever it was your were referencing in the post to which I responded was not connected to the real world.
 
calamity said:
We warned y'all.



I have an ex in Dallas. She sent me a text yesterday--it was the first time I heard from her in two years--asking how I am. After a little back and forth, she tells me she went in for a COVID test. Apparently, she's having the symptoms. I worry because she is about my age. :(

The current wife has close relatives in San Antonio. So far none of them has reported anything. But...

Also, as we saw in the other thread in this section, one of our own living in Houston tested positive. She's young. So, hopefully she will be OK.

It's infuriating because we all said, "Hey! This is serous!"

But, the gaslighters all knew better. And, they have been relentless in their denials led, of course, by their President. Well, now what, Geniuses?
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Yes, absolutely stunning, I live in TX at what the left calls the epicenter of the virus and for some reason I am not angry at the President, wow, what the hell is wrong with me? Guess growing up I learned that I am responsible for personal responsibility issues so if I get the virus I did something wrong, not the President. Unlike the radical left who loves to hate the RED state of TX and ignore the Blue state of California, let me post these numbers for you and remind you all, if you do what you are supposed to do you won't get the virus. If you don't, then look in the mirror at the cause

50% of the deaths from COVID 19 are in the top five states in the country, ALL BLUE, NY, NY. Penn, California, and Mass but for some reason, probably political TX is the target for the left, gee wonder why??

Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing

8/5/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 4,903,385 160402 3.3%

New York 418928 32725 7.8%

New Jersey 183327 15857 8.6%

Pennsylvania 116521 13679 11.7%

California 529980 9869 1.9%

Massachusetts 119643 8659 7.2% 80789

Florida 510389 7881 1.5%

Illinois 188424 7742 4.1%

Texas 459887 7497 1.6%

Michigan 83730 6388 7.6%

Georgia 204895 4026 2.0%

Arizona 183647 4002 2.2%
 
snakestretcher said:
Trump's offhand, insensitive and dismissive statement is clear for all to understand. He simply either doesn't give a damn, or has no conception of the severity of the disease. I wonder how the relatives of the deceased feel when he shrugs his shoulders and tells them; "they die, it is what it is". How comforting.
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How do the relatives in England feel about the

England 308134 cases 46413 Deaths 15.1% Death to infection ratio

Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
 
calamity said:
We warned y'all.



we all said, "Hey! This is serous!"

Well, now what, Geniuses?
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Well maybe we can drop the hundreds of thousands of masks this ocean of infected humanity pouring across the Texas border is in need of by airplane?
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Do'h!
They are some literal oceans of unmasked viral humanity flowing into Texas .
Maybe you should not be cheering these viral human waves across the border to begin with Einstein ?
Do'h!
 
Texas "in a world of hurt "

Well let's see , how could that have happened ?
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Do'h!
 
Texas Hurtin ?
The hell you say ?
We don't need NO STINKIN MASKS !
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code1211 said:
Don't you just hate it when a poster edits your words for no other reason than to change the meaning?
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Don't you hate it when a poster makes a statement and another poster asks them to back up their assertions......and they cannot?
 
Casper said:
What people say that have nothing further to add to a discussion.
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It's a term to describe people who are so invested in spittle spewing hatred towards Trump that they simply cannot think straight.
 
calamity said:
That's twice now you dodged addressing the facts laid on the table. Why?

You do realize that ignoring facts and calling those who point them out to you nit-wits only makes you look bad. Right?
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Says a poster who suggested that Trump is intentionally killing people.
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's a term to describe people who are so invested in spittle spewing hatred towards Trump that they simply cannot think straight.
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I have seen very few of those and none on this site, yet the term is used constantly here, and almost always when a trump supporter is losing an argument. Guess it comes down to a point of view, kinda like the word racist, it got ovr used so much it lost meaning to a large degree and the same applies to TDS.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Prove it.
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Gladly


Official U.S. coronavirus death toll is ‘a substantial undercount’ of actual tally, Yale study finds

Researchers found that the excess number of deaths over normal levels also exceeded those attributed to Covid-19, leading them to conclude that many of those fatalities were likely caused by the coronavirus but not confirmed. State reporting discrepancies and a sharp increase in U.S. deaths amid a pandemic suggest the number of Covid-19 fatalities is undercounted, they said.

“Our analyses suggest that the official tally of deaths due to Covid-19 represent a substantial undercount of the true burden,” Dan Weinberger, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health and a lead author of the study, told CNBC.

...Texas and Arizona had wider gaps, with roughly 55% and 53%, respectively, of excess deaths unattributed to Covid-19.
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I call that conclusive evidence.
 
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