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Don't Put Too Much Faith in the Experts

You do realize 225,000 is a lot people, right? I not sure those people will happy about you sacerficing them.

Tell me what is the Covid death rate in the US and Canada?

Don't worry he will get his wish and more the prediction is a possible 240,000 deaths here by Fall. I'm pretty sure that Trumps genius plan of wishing this all away will fail.

The forecast shows 208,255 deaths (with a range of 186,087 to 244,541). Those numbers drop to 162,808 (157,217 to 171,193), if at least 95% of people wear masks in public.

We can now see the projected trajectory of the epidemic into the fall, and many states are expected to experience significant increases in cases and deaths in September and October,” said IHME Director Dr. Christopher Murray. “However, as we all have come to recognize, wearing masks can substantially reduce transmission of the virus. Mask mandates delay the need for re-imposing closures of businesses and have huge economic benefits. Moreover, those who refuse masks are putting their lives, their families, their friends, and their communities at risk.”

IHME’s new projections include the re-imposition of strong social distancing mandates when deaths per day reach a level of 8 per one million people, comparing that with a forecast if no action is taken, and a forecast if social distancing mandates are combined with at least 95% mask wearing in public spaces. Florida and Massachusetts 17,472 (11,275 to 32,577) and 12,906 (11,017 to 16,873), respectively, are expected to reach 8 per million deaths by November 1. The forecast for Florida, which is expected to reach 8 per million deaths on October 1, differs by 6,173 deaths if the state does not re-impose social distancing mandates. If mask wearing reaches 95%, that number drops to 9,849 (7,921 to 14,052).

New IHME Forecasts Show More Than 200,000 US Deaths by November 1 | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
 
You are far more careful than I am. I do not get near infected people. It works so far.

Prior to this I was always careful about “germs” and not touching my face and hand sanitation... so this is just normal and has worked for me for many years.

The only difference is the mask wearing thing.

Roseann:)
 
Trumps only authority is over the Federal Government. Why didn't you prove what you said using the actual official order he signed per you?

again, ACTIONS speak louder than words; Trump made mask wearing a joke
 
Yes, I am correct it is not an end all protector.

Did I say no mask would be a good idea?

I said using a mask improperly was a potential way to infect yourself stupidly if you contaminated your hands via touching a contaminated mask and did not properly disinfect your hands.

Not disinfecting you’re hands properly after direct contact with a contaminated mask and then touching your your eyes or your nose would be a direct contact action with the virus.

Improper use of a contaminated mask followed by touching your eyes or nose is a direct contact action to introduce the virus into those very vulnerable areas on your face.

Roseann :)

I agreed.

I was just reinforcing your point and clarifying why wearing a mask is important indeed.

As is washing your hands often.

:peace
 
Don’t Put Too Much Faith in the Experts – Reason.com







An excellent article and video that shows just how wrong the experts were.

And Im gonna call it in advance, when the authoritarian idiots start to reply in this thread to defend these quacks, it'll be one of three things:

"But, but, but, Trump!"

Or:

"You didnt read the study! I did! I'm an armchair scientist and I say those experts were misunderstood! Bla bla bla!"

Or:

Some other ad hom, to try and deflect the failure of the quacks away.

Begin. :popcorn2:


So you are saying that the predictions do not meet reality... and this pandemic is nowhere close to being over?
 
What a asinine post among a plethora of them.

Why aren't you taking the "swedish" approach? You want others to take that risk, why not for yourself?
 
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Like these 'Karens' who drove 30 hours to the Wynn casino in Las Vegas.



I had to laugh because this woman claimed "it is against HIPAA regulations". I'm a nurse and I know what HIPAA is and they are regulations put into place that safeguard a patient's right to privacy. Their medical records, their identity, their personal health history. That's what HIPAA is. It has nothing at all to do with rights about wearing a mask.



That staff is pretty patient with those two dumb twat waffles. It's a private business, you don't like the rules, ****ing leave.
 
It's unfortunate, but what I fear has to happen before people stop making this political, including Trump of course, is for this pandemic to reach a point when it can no longer be twisted into a political football. At that point, it's going to be a devastatingly tragic circumstance. People are going to be forced to listen to what science is telling us and to follow their guidelines and not politically divided parties.

Well, you think this is bad? Just wait until the consequences of all these years of climate change denial start kicking in.
 
Have you ever tried to vet a source to check your own sources reliablity?

Have you ever tried to think for yourself? Are you capable?
 
Have you ever tried to think for yourself? Are you capable?

I know how to vet sources, and throw out low information, low truthful sources. That is a skill that some people should learn. Not being able to valuate sources is not 'thinking for yourself'.
 
I know how to vet sources, and throw out low information, low truthful sources. That is a skill that some people should learn. Not being able to valuate sources is not 'thinking for yourself'.

Believing without question the statements of known liars is not thinking for yourself either. It is absorbing propaganda.
 
Believing without question the statements of known liars is not thinking for yourself either. It is absorbing propaganda.

That is ironic, considering your sources.
 

The Teacher-Shortage Myth: There is no dearth of teachers; in fact, we may have too many. | City Journal.

In fact, we now have over 3.8 million public school teachers in the U.S., an increase of 13 percent in the last four years. During that same time period, student enrollment rose just 2 percent. Mike Antonucci, director of the Education Intelligence Agency, adds that, between 2008 and 2016, student enrollment was flat but the teaching force expanded from 3.4 million to more than 3.8 million, a rise of 12.4 percent. University of Pennsylvania education professor Richard Ingersoll avers that not only is there no shortage of teachers, there is actually a glut.
 
That is ironic, considering your sources.

Yes of course. Only the Ministry of Truth knows the truth. Quite right!

When everything the American people believe is false, it will be the Summer of 2020. :lol:
 
You do realize 225,000 is a lot people, right? I not sure those people will happy about you sacerficing them.

Tell me what is the Covid death rate in the US and Canada?

225,000 is NOT a lot in the overall scheme of things considering we are now ruining lives with another shutdown.
 
your career obviously wasn't in rocket science

I've done very well for myself without mastering algebra. Only a handful of occupations require it, and I am not in one. Wonky types may need it. If I ever had the need, I would just hire someone like you.
 
Why aren't you taking the "swedish" approach? You want others to take that risk, why not for yourself?

Don't you effing read? Where am I going this weekend?
 
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