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Florida Media Busts COVID-19 Labs Claiming 100% Positive Test Rate, One Claiming 98% Was Actually 9.4% - National File

(Orlando, Florida’s FOX 35 investigated several COVID-19 testing facilities claiming 100% or nearly 100% of tests they handled, and learned that the facilities were wildly incorrect in their reporting, with actual positive cases being closer to 10% of less.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.)
 
Aberro said:
Florida Media Busts COVID-19 Labs Claiming 100% Positive Test Rate, One Claiming 98% Was Actually 9.4% - National File

(Orlando, Florida’s FOX 35 investigated several COVID-19 testing facilities claiming 100% or nearly 100% of tests they handled, and learned that the facilities were wildly incorrect in their reporting, with actual positive cases being closer to 10% of less.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.)
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IF these false reports were filed with the state or federal government, EACH false report is a SERIOUS criminal offense.

Their reason is the government pays HUGE bonuses for covid-19 positive patients - tens of thousands of dollars each. So it is not only the crime of filing a false report to government, but is a massive Ricco statute level theft of tens of millions of dollars. Arrest EVERYONE involved.

This could be the largest class action medical malpractice suit in American history. I'll drop a line to Florida's Morgan and Morgan, the largest medical malpractice law firm in the United States. Everyone in Florida knows who that law firm is given it's yearly advertising budget is probably close to $100 million dollars.
 
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The MSM attacks against Florida have ALWAYS BEEN and ARE LIES.
 
You’d think this would be good news.
 
Something like this affecting the entire world's economy? You know that there are a lot of people making a ton of money off of this...
 
They've adopted the Biden school of mathematics approach.
 
Aberro said:
Florida Media Busts COVID-19 Labs Claiming 100% Positive Test Rate, One Claiming 98% Was Actually 9.4% - National File

(Orlando, Florida’s FOX 35 investigated several COVID-19 testing facilities claiming 100% or nearly 100% of tests they handled, and learned that the facilities were wildly incorrect in their reporting, with actual positive cases being closer to 10% of less.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.)
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Bummer!

The COVID panic porn meisters won't like this news at all.
 
It is good news.

MSM will never report it, they want national panic to hurt Trump.
 
joko104 said:
IF these false reports were filed with the state or federal government, EACH false report is a SERIOUS criminal offense.

Their reason is the government pays HUGE bonuses for covid-19 positive patients - tens of thousands of dollars each. So it is not only the crime of filing a false report to government, but is a massive Ricco statute level theft of tens of millions of dollars. Arrest EVERYONE involved.

This could be the largest class action medical malpractice suit in American history. I'll drop a line to Florida's Morgan and Morgan, the largest medical malpractice law firm in the United States. Everyone in Florida knows who that law firm is given it's yearly advertising budget is probably close to $100 million dollars.
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To be fair, this sounds more like a clerical error than anything directly malicious. It sounds like they were reporting positive case because, somewhere along the line, someone in the chain of command indicated that the positive results were the most important. I'm not prepared to assume malintent until such time as there is more of an indication that such intent existed.
 
Mycroft said:
Bummer!

The COVID panic porn meisters won't like this news at all.
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I see you got the memo about using the phrase "panic porn" from your conservative masters. They truly appreciate your obeidence.

Mycroft said:
Keep in mind that the trump haters and their COVID-19 panic porn will continue to affect the economic recovery.
That is by design.
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Mycroft said:
Seriously...stop with the made up panic porn.
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Mycroft said:
Sorry if it torpedoes your panic porn.

https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1282743622312566785
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Mycroft said:
Of course not...doing so would negate a week of COVID-19 panic porn.
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I especially like the one where you claim it the "panic porn" will affect the economic recovery. Is it safe to say that you believe your conservative masters lying that the "stimulus will cause hyperinflation, dollar collapse, market to zero", "Obama was born in Kenya", "his BC a forgery", "the autobailout is an illegal union bailout", "he wants to kill old people" and "(put all conservative Obamacare lies here)" was nothing but panic porn designed to undermine the economy? yea, probably not. that would take integrity. Anyhoo, can you explain how if true, this one lab is part of the "librul conspiracy to hurt our dear leader"? thanks in advance.
 
Kreton said:
Is this being reported by anyone or any site with anything resembling credibility?
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The info In the link you posted is not accurate as posted.

I think it was misunderstanding.

Yes , the positive tests were positive and then they send in the numbers of positive tests.

Then they compare that number of positive tests to The number of tests were given and divide
... That gives the percentage of tests th at were positive.

From Covid act now :

A relatively high percentage (18.7%) of COVID tests were positive, which indicates that testing in Florida...

from

Covid Act Now
 
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minnie616 said:
The info In the linkyou posted is not accurate.

I think it was misunderstanding.

Yes the positive tests were positive and they send in the numbers of positive tests.

Then you compare that number to numbers of tests were given. That gives you the percentage of tests th at were positive.

From Covid act now :

A relatively high percentage (18.7%) of COVID tests were positive, which indicates that testing in Florida...

from

Covid Act Now
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What are you talking about? I didn't post any link.
 
Kreton said:
What are you talking about? I didn't post any link.
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I’m very sorry I thought I was replying to the original post.

I must have quoted your post by mistake.

Please accept my apology.
 
minnie616 said:
The info In the link you posted is not accurate as posted.

I think it was misunderstanding.

Yes , the positive tests were positive and then they send in the numbers of positive tests.

Then they compare that number of positive tests to The number of tests were given and divide
... That gives the percentage of tests th at were positive.

From Covid act now :

A relatively high percentage (18.7%) of COVID tests were positive, which indicates that testing in Florida...

from

Covid Act Now
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You are correct. There was another article shared yesterday that summed it up with clearer language:
Fox 35 News said:
Specifically, they said that some smaller, private labs were not reporting negative test result data to the state
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Coronavirus update: Florida labs not reporting negative test results, report says | Fox News

From the OP where the same information is provided in less clear language:
TOM PAPPERT said:
The news station also went to the Florida Department of Public Health with their shocking findings, and was told that “although private and public laboratories are required to report positive and negative results to the state immediately, some have not,” which may result in further incorrect reporting.

A spokesman for FDPH told FOX 35, “The Department immediately began working with those labs to ensure that all results were being reported in order to provide comprehensive and transparent data,” and “As the state continues to receive results from various labs, the Department will continue educating these labs on proper protocol for reporting COVID-19 test results.”
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In review, National File publishes conspiracy and pseudoscience related news stories from an extreme right perspective.
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National File - Media Bias/Fact Check.
 
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minnie616 said:
... they send in the numbers of positive tests...
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Xilnik said:
You are correct. There was another article shared yesterday that summed it up with clearer language:
Coronavirus update: Florida labs not reporting negative test results, report says | Fox News

From the OP where the same information is provided in less clear language:


National File - Media Bias/Fact Check.
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Thanks for taking the time to correct yet another nonsense story from the wacko right wingers (once again from the no-name propaganda source).

But it was fun to see all the usual suspects jump all over it and believing this crap...

joko104 said:
... Arrest EVERYONE involved....
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Bodhisattva said:
Something like this affecting the entire world's economy? You know that there are a lot of people making a ton of money off of this...
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humbolt said:
They've adopted the Biden school of mathematics approach.
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Mycroft said:
Bummer!

The COVID panic porn meisters won't like this news at all.
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Aberro said:
MSM will never report it, they want national panic to hurt Trump.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo

:screwy

Lutherf said:
To be fair, this sounds more like a clerical error than anything directly malicious.
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Props to Lutherf for not falling for this idiocy like the rest of 'em.
 
Slavister said:
Thanks for taking the time to correct yet another nonsense story from the wacko right wingers (once again from the no-name propaganda source).

But it was fun to see all the usual suspects jump all over it and believing this crap...











:lamo :lamo :lamo

:screwy



Props to Lutherf for not falling for this idiocy like the rest of 'em.
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Try reading the article again. What is says is the labs and hospitals are scrambling to change/correct their numbers.

This isn't over.
 
Lutherf said:
To be fair, this sounds more like a clerical error than anything directly malicious. It sounds like they were reporting positive case because, somewhere along the line, someone in the chain of command indicated that the positive results were the most important. I'm not prepared to assume malintent until such time as there is more of an indication that such intent existed.
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Does it matter in terms of news coverage?

The REAL question is this: Were any claims made for federal money or insurance money on false claims? That is the legal liability question - criminal and civil.

Scrambling to say "oops, sorry, my bad" only works IF money was not fraudulently obtained by those false stats and people were not falsely told they were covid-19 positive.

That's why private sector lawyers need to investigation. Politicians lie. They can be bought off to avoid liabilities. With tens of millions of dollars at stake, many people and organizations will lie. It's not like MediCare fraud is rare - particularly in Florida.
 
joko104 said:
Does it matter in terms of news coverage?

The REAL question is this: Were any claims made for federal money or insurance money on false claims? That is the legal liability question - criminal and civil.

Scrambling to say "oops, sorry, my bad" only works IF money was not fraudulently obtained by those false stats and people were not falsely told they were covid-19 positive.

That's why private sector lawyers need to investigation. Politicians lie. They can be bought off to avoid liabilities. With tens of millions of dollars at stake, many people and organizations will lie. It's not like MediCare fraud is rare - particularly in Florida.
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It doesn't matter for the propagandists and it's very much likely that the propaganda we've been exposed to for months on end contributed to this decision, whether intentional or not.

The biggest problem we have had since this thing came around is the hysteria, knee jerk reactions, political opportunism and general chaos with regard to sorting the wheat from the chaff as far as information collection is concerned. It's the same kind of thing we see after a school shooting except multiplied by infinity.
 
joko104 said:
Try reading the article again. What is says is the labs and hospitals are scrambling to change/correct their numbers.

This isn't over.
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You want me to read the fake news article from the OP? What for?

Read the explanation again - they have not been reporting negative cases. So even if they are "scrambling" to report those, none of this matters. Your premise is wrong - the number of reported positive cases is still correct.
 
Lutherf said:
To be fair, this sounds more like a clerical error than anything directly malicious. It sounds like they were reporting positive case because, somewhere along the line, someone in the chain of command indicated that the positive results were the most important. I'm not prepared to assume malintent until such time as there is more of an indication that such intent existed.
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Florida Department of Health confirms some labs weren’t reporting negative coronavirus tests

It think you nailed it. Some labs didn't realize they had to report negative test results. So they only reported the positive cases. Florida DOH already contacted them and fixed the issue. The actual numbers of cases or deaths were accurate as far as I understand.

And if anyone was really trying to lie about this and they thought they'd get away with saying "Every single test we did was positive!" then they are idiots. That's like trying to convince your buddy you caught a 20 LB bass over the weekend but didn't want to take a picture of it.
 
Time will tell. If the local FOX news story is ultimately determined to be false, unlike any Democrat I call recall on this forum, I'll fully acknowledge it. BUT the explanation for the correction doesn't really resolve this.
 
Slavister said:
Thanks for taking the time to correct yet another nonsense story from the wacko right wingers (once again from the no-name propaganda source).

But it was fun to see all the usual suspects jump all over it and believing this crap...











:lamo :lamo :lamo

:screwy



Props to Lutherf for not falling for this idiocy like the rest of 'em.
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First... I am not even sure who the hell you are... so not sure how you have me as a "usual suspect' and secondly what I said has nothing to do with this actual incident... so you can try again or you can end with a failed argument (against me at least). Your call.
 
Aberro said:
Florida Media Busts COVID-19 Labs Claiming 100% Positive Test Rate, One Claiming 98% Was Actually 9.4% - National File

(Orlando, Florida’s FOX 35 investigated several COVID-19 testing facilities claiming 100% or nearly 100% of tests they handled, and learned that the facilities were wildly incorrect in their reporting, with actual positive cases being closer to 10% of less.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.)
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We lead a thread with a story from the National File? Really? This is quintessential, fact-free political porn. I can not believe anyone wasting their time taking this seriously. OP, please go back and find a real source for this story and start over.

"....Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.

Overall, we rate National File an extreme right Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims...."

National File - Media Bias/Fact Check

Please don't read this smut, but if you must, don't try to sell it here as truth and worthy of anyone's attention. Its not.
 
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