Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last?

Jay59 · Jul 7, 2020

That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

"Based on death certificate data, the percentage of (total U.S.) deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 decreased from 9% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26,â€� the CDC noted, adding that this was the 10th-straight week of declining deaths. While the "percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold", additional data in coming weeks could change that.

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last? – Issues & Insights

Mongidig · Jul 7, 2020

I believe it is officially scheduled to come to an end in January.

avatar · Jul 7, 2020

I've been told it never happened.

But the question remains, is "pandemic" a national thing, or a global thing and are we better off if we change the name now.

mrjurrs · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

"Based on death certificate data, the percentage of (total U.S.) deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 decreased from 9% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26,â€� the CDC noted, adding that this was the 10th-straight week of declining deaths. While the "percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold", additional data in coming weeks could change that.

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last? – Issues & Insights

I'd suggest asking doctors, not people that write for investors.

avatar · Jul 7, 2020

mrjurrs said:
I'd suggest asking doctors, not people that write for investors.

True dat. They get paid if it's rising or falling.

Jay59 · Jul 7, 2020

mrjurrs said:
I'd suggest asking doctors, not people that write for investors.

Are you saying that CDC Europe does not have doctors?

avatar said:
I've been told it never happened. But the question remains, is "pandemic" a national thing, or a global thing and are we better off if we change the name now.

Not rename, downgrade to a lower risk classification, based on medical experience.

countryboy · Jul 7, 2020

avatar said:
I've been told it never happened.

No you haven't. Stop lying.

mrjurrs · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
Are you saying that CDC Europe does not have doctors?

Not rename, downgrade to a lower risk classification, based on medical experience.

I'm saying your cite doesn't say that. If you want to source CDC Europe, use them as the source. I have no idea how these authors are using their information.

Vern · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

"Based on death certificate data, the percentage of (total U.S.) deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 decreased from 9% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26,â€� the CDC noted, adding that this was the 10th-straight week of declining deaths. While the "percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold", additional data in coming weeks could change that.

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last? – Issues & Insights

Jay, just so you know, when you read an "editorial" that has this as the first sentence "The media and many politicians inside the Democratic Party continue to shriek over the recent jump in the number of recorded coronavirus cases" you should be wary of anything it says let alone concludes. Oh and look, the mean ole dems are "seeking to keep the economy closed at all costs — and we mean that literally." First the "economy" was never closed. It was always a partial shutdown. And thanks to the partial shutdown, grocery stores, factories, food plants stayed open. The worst thing I had to deal with was waiting 30 minutes to get into Costco. I'm eternally grateful for that.

Here's more dishonesty from your "editorial". it quotes the CDC this way: "While the “percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold,” additional data in coming weeks could change that, says the CDC.. Here's the actual quote "and is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely increase as additional death certificates are processed." It changed the context hence dishonest. Usually conservative "editorials" dont try to be subtle. Anyhoo, not for nothing, I'm well aware that the overall death rate is declining. Maybe thats news to the people who think its no better than the common cold or will magically disappear.

So if the level of deaths decreases so its not technically a pandemic, does that mean I can go a bar and not worry about catching it? Oh, maybe you should tell Texas to stop with the govt tyranny of forcing people to wear a mask. Its almost not a pandemic anymore.

Lutherf · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

"Based on death certificate data, the percentage of (total U.S.) deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 decreased from 9% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26,â€� the CDC noted, adding that this was the 10th-straight week of declining deaths. While the "percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold", additional data in coming weeks could change that.

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last? – Issues & Insights

On November 4th it will either be over or it will just be starting a much stronger and much more deadly second wave.

Visbek · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

:roll:

You should take a closer look at your own chart. The number of new cases per day is rising exponentially.

The death rate is a lagging indicator, and just the reporting is delayed by up to 2 weeks. Even though the virus is spreading more in younger people right now, it is only a matter of time before the number of deaths starts to rise.

We don't have a vaccine. We barely have treatments. Hospitals are getting slammed. The virus didn't suddenly mutate to become less lethal overnight. The CDC certainly isn't saying this is over. The US is handling the virus worse than almost every other nation, precisely because of people who aren't taking it seriously.

Anyone who ignores the basic facts about the virus, and thinks it is "ending soon," is a fool.

Helix · Jul 7, 2020

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last?

Not even in right wing alt reality. The precious is still being tested daily.

Visbek · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
Are you saying that CDC Europe does not have doctors?

Erm... The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) is an agency of the US government. The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDP) is, obviously, a separate entity, and was not mentioned in your article.

Not rename, downgrade to a lower risk classification, based on medical experience.

Or, not. The CDC says:

Mortality attributed to COVID-19 decreased compared to last week and is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely increase as additional death certificates are processed.
COVIDView: A Weekly Surveillance Summary of U.S. COVID-19 Activity | CDC

It should also be screamingly obvious that crossing a semantic threshold does not mean that we're all done, and everything can go back to normal. Opening up like that would result in hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US alone.

It's pretty obvious, though, that you are not interested in facts -- which is why you link to garbage like I&I, which in turn quotes garbage like "Just the News," and buys into right-wing Trumpian BS like "we see more cases because of testing!" (No, we don't -- as the increases in positive test results clearly illustrate, along with abundant examples where more testing is not turning up more cases, such as New York and most other Eastern Seaboard states.)

JacksinPA · Jul 7, 2020

Visbek said:
:roll:

You should take a closer look at your own chart. The number of new cases per day is rising exponentially.

The death rate is a lagging indicator, and just the reporting is delayed by up to 2 weeks. Even though the virus is spreading more in younger people right now, it is only a matter of time before the number of deaths starts to rise.

We don't have a vaccine. We barely have treatments. Hospitals are getting slammed. The virus didn't suddenly mutate to become less lethal overnight. The CDC certainly isn't saying this is over. The US is handling the virus worse than almost every other nation, precisely because of people who aren't taking it seriously.

Anyone who ignores the basic facts about the virus, and thinks it is "ending soon," is a fool.

And most likely a Republican or conservative.

ttwtt78640 · Jul 7, 2020

Mongidig said:
I believe it is officially scheduled to come to an end in January.

Perhaps even mid November depending on who wins the POTUS election.

avatar · Jul 7, 2020

countryboy said:
No you haven't. Stop lying.

I have it from the very highest sources that it's a hoax. The very highest I tell you.

countryboy · Jul 7, 2020

avatar said:
I have it from the very highest sources that it's a hoax. The very highest I tell you.

No you don't, stop lying. It's bad for your soul. That's why liberals are such miserable malcontents, their entire existence is nothing but a big lie.

Lursa · Jul 7, 2020

mrjurrs said:
I'd suggest asking doctors, not people that write for investors.

The title demonstrates enough ignorance for me to doubt even what seemed accurate in the content.

Pandemic/epidemic status is not based on deaths/death rates. It focuses on infection rates over specific ranges and populations.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

CaughtInThe · Jul 7, 2020

Mongidig said:
I believe it is officially scheduled to come to an end in January.

FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

Court Jester · Jul 7, 2020

These things take a natural course until such time as herd immunity mitigates the opportunity to keep spreading. Then they don't exactly go away, but seem as such to be dominant.

We can not stop covid 19 without herd immunity which may include a vaccine. All we can do is slightly alter the curve until we reach herd immunity.

uptower · Jul 7, 2020

Jay59 said:
That's the headline. The reason is the sharp decline in COVID deaths since mid April. It is coming close to no longer qualifying as an epidemic.

"Based on death certificate data, the percentage of (total U.S.) deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 decreased from 9% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26,â€� the CDC noted, adding that this was the 10th-straight week of declining deaths. While the "percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold", additional data in coming weeks could change that.

Is The Pandemic Coming To An End At Last? – Issues & Insights

of course it will end eventually and worldwide, due to proper mitigating measures, the deaths have indeed sharply declined. So why the f*** is the case rate still climbing in the US?

Lursa · Jul 7, 2020

uptower said:
of course it will end eventually and worldwide, due to proper mitigating measures, the deaths have indeed sharply declined. So why the f*** is the case rate still climbing in the US?

Malaria never 'stops.' Neither does influenza. Not everything generates herd immunity.

Somethings, like SARS, have limited immunity, it's ~2 yrs.

whaaa whaaaaa /Debbie Downer

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

avatar · Jul 7, 2020

countryboy said:
No you don't, stop lying. It's bad for your soul. That's why liberals are such miserable malcontents, their entire existence is nothing but a big lie.

:lamo

What a doofus. Comedy gold.

Acadia · Jul 7, 2020

Lutherf said:
On November 4th it will either be over or it will just be starting a much stronger and much more deadly second wave.

Wet-finger virus:lol:

Cardinal · Jul 7, 2020

Many of us have been spanked painfully for making conclusions about the pandemic in real time.

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