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Ok. I know Kayleigh McEnany is not the most gaffe free press secretary , as demonstrated when she waved a check around with trump donating money to causes, and revealed his personal banking information.

But, her inability is showing again, with her using a chart showing a 5% fatality rate when claiming the 99% of all cases are harmless. I mean, if you are going ot make an outrageous claim, at least use a chart that matches your claim instead of proving it to be false.

White House defends Trump'''s claim that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases are '''harmless''' with chart showing 5 percent are fatal

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany came to her press briefing on Monday prepared to defend President Trump’s claim over the weekend that “99 percent” of U.S. coronavirus cases are “totally harmless” with two charts illustrating the country’s COVID-19 death rate.

But McEnany’s slides showed a case fatality rate — the percentage of confirmed cases that result in death — of 4.6 percent, not the 1 percent implied by Trump.

Count down,.. to explain why what she said wasn't what she said.
 
Ok. I know Kayleigh McEnany is not the most gaffe free press secretary , as demonstrated when she waved a check around with trump donating money to causes, and revealed his personal banking information.

But, her inability is showing again, with her using a chart showing a 5% fatality rate when claiming the 99% of all cases are harmless. I mean, if you are going ot make an outrageous claim, at least use a chart that matches your claim instead of proving it to be false.

White House defends Trump'''s claim that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases are '''harmless''' with chart showing 5 percent are fatal



Count down,.. to explain why what she said wasn't what she said.

Trump fans don't care about the truth, they are too busy parading their stupidity and ignorance to care.
 
And this ends the debate, as long as the numbers are good Trump and his supporters give no care at all for life.
 
And this ends the debate, as long as the numbers are good Trump and his supporters give no care at all for life.

Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.
 
Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.


Hope and change is great to want be reality is important as well
 
Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.

Josie, is that you?
 
Ok. I know Kayleigh McEnany is not the most gaffe free press secretary , as demonstrated when she waved a check around with trump donating money to causes, and revealed his personal banking information.

But, her inability is showing again, with her using a chart showing a 5% fatality rate when claiming the 99% of all cases are harmless. I mean, if you are going ot make an outrageous claim, at least use a chart that matches your claim instead of proving it to be false.

White House defends Trump'''s claim that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases are '''harmless''' with chart showing 5 percent are fatal



Count down,.. to explain why what she said wasn't what she said.

Hmm, I agree with the 99% currently being wrong.

I'd suggest he change the statement in future to the VAST MAJORITY, over 94% of Covid-19 cases are "relatively harmless."

I wonder if that would satisfy nay-sayers. Probably not, they'd figure out some way to turn that smile upside down. :coffeepap:
 
And this ends the debate, as long as the numbers are good Trump and his supporters give no care at all for life.

I thought Trump's opinion was obvious very early on when he stated he didn't want the people sick on the cruise ship to add to the US numbers at the time.

Trump in March said:
I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault. It wasn't the fault of the people on the ship either, ok? It wasn't their fault either, and they're mostly American, so I can live either way with it,
 
Ok. I know Kayleigh McEnany is not the most gaffe free press secretary , as demonstrated when she waved a check around with trump donating money to causes, and revealed his personal banking information.

But, her inability is showing again, with her using a chart showing a 5% fatality rate when claiming the 99% of all cases are harmless. I mean, if you are going ot make an outrageous claim, at least use a chart that matches your claim instead of proving it to be false.

White House defends Trump'''s claim that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases are '''harmless''' with chart showing 5 percent are fatal



Count down,.. to explain why what she said wasn't what she said.

Kayleigh McEnany will say anything to keep the limelight and collect a pay check doing so.

All they are doing is showing the world the level of willful ignorance.... that exist within THEIR ranks.

Republican Confederates and Trump's Mob are bent on brining American Down To What Putin has long desired. At the same time, they expose to the world the general wide spread willful ignorance of the Republican Confederacy with Trump's Mob functioning like the Confederate Military attacking America and All its Values. .
 
I don’t get it.

Just an old post of hers where she thought that certain people were getting.... excited about covid deaths because it would hurt trump.
 
43003 cases yesterday, 212 deaths

The new fatalities obviously correspond with old cases, not new ones, but IF this trend holds up, and fatalities don’t curve back up, that’s a 99.5% survival rate

Not saying this proves Trump’s claim, but it’s not out of the ballpark
 
Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.

Here is the thing. No one is hoping for bad numbers, we unfortunately have them, and team trump is trying to polish the turd rather than fix the problem.
 
43003 cases yesterday, 212 deaths

The new fatalities obviously correspond with old cases, not new ones, but IF this trend holds up, and fatalities don’t curve back up, that’s a 99.5% survival rate

Not saying this proves Trump’s claim, but it’s not out of the ballpark


until you throw in the "harmless" claim. that is just an asinine thing to say.
 
Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.

That would be fine, if the numbers were actually good, and it wasn't a lie from front to back.
 
Hmm, I agree with the 99% currently being wrong.

I'd suggest he change the statement in future to the VAST MAJORITY, over 94% of Covid-19 cases are "relatively harmless."

I wonder if that would satisfy nay-sayers. Probably not, they'd figure out some way to turn that smile upside down. :coffeepap:

Except, that is not a true statement there, and the idea of 'relatively harmless' is not the experience from co-workers and friends who had it. One has yet to recover the sense of taste and smell after 2 months, and another , who was sick for 3 weeks has a hard time taking stairs and walking to the mail box.
 
Just an old post of hers where she thought that certain people were getting.... excited about covid deaths because it would hurt trump.

Ok, well, I really meant to just point out that being happy about good numbers doesn’t mean we don’t care about lives. We like to see good numbers because we want to see fewer lives lost.
 
That would be fine, if the numbers were actually good, and it wasn't a lie from front to back.

It’s interesting isn’t it? More testing reveals more cases making those numbers go up which looks bad. At the same time, more confirmed cases can actually be good news if fatality rates remain pretty steady indicating a higher recovery rate.
 
Here is the thing. No one is hoping for bad numbers, we unfortunately have them, and team trump is trying to polish the turd rather than fix the problem.

Yeah, I agree that nobody wants more people to be sick or to die from this virus.
 
It’s interesting isn’t it? More testing reveals more cases making those numbers go up which looks bad. At the same time, more confirmed cases can actually be good news if fatality rates remain pretty steady indicating a higher recovery rate.

It is good news that the percentage of fatalities is down. however, when it comes to new cases, the 'new' infections is not just because of more testing. Another factor you have to look at is 'percentage of positives verses total testing'. That is why it is a misrepresentation to claim the increase in the number of positives is because of increased testing. While that is true to some degree, there is also the 'percentage of positives in the new tests'. In certain states, such as Texas, that percentage is skyrocketing.

Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida and California have huge problems.. other states, but those are the top five. That's why Abbot in Texas is all of a sudden is mandating face masks Texas Gov. Greg Abbott mandates face masks in most counties | The Texas Tribune

California did too, but did not enforce the mandate well enough, and that's one reason they are surging.

If you look , for example, at El Paso texas, and the hospitalizations. On June 24th, there were 95 people hospitalized. On July 4th, there were 200. That surge isn't good news. That surge isn't because of 'more testing'. it is a surge because people are getting sick enough to get admitted to the hospital.

On June 25th, there were 41 people in the El Paso Texas hospitals that were in the ICU. On July 4th, there were 71. Almost 1/3 (not quite) of the people in the hospital for Covid 19 in el paso texas are in the ICU.

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Right now, there is sufficient capacity in the hospitals. But, experience has shown if there is a big surge, that capacity can be used up quick. The good news is that because of experience and testing around the world, there are treatments available that can help keep people off the ventilators. The whole point in wearing masks in public is so presymptomatic and asymptomatic people don't spread the disease to others (as much). What I do not want to see is any place in the U.S. needing to go through what NYC did. NYC had two disadvantages... 1) It was at the fore front of of the pandemic in the U.S. so we didn't know how to treat the symptoms, and 2) The population density in the Greater new york area is far higher than any other place in the country.

But, white washing the severity of things, and trying to make it look a lot better than it is encourages carelessness and a disaster in the making.
 
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Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.

Boy you got that totally back asswards. There isn't any hope when Benedict Donald makes idiotic statements and that Twit McEnany standing there trying to defend the outrage nonsense coming out of trumps mouth. The chart shows a 5% fatality rate and she is using it to support trumps 99% is harmless idiocy.

But that's okay the numbers in the next few weeks will really start straining your ability to use "trump haters being mean and telling lies" to so easily dismiss the disgusting dereliction of duty to the nation Bendict Donald is perpetrating right before your america loving eyes.
 
Gotta tell ya, I’d rather be on the side hoping for and applauding “good numbers” than any side hoping for “bad” numbers to so they can be used as a bludgeon against Trump.

How about on the side of people NOT making dumb and scientifically illiterate statements, then trying to prove those dumb statements with visuals that prove the opposite. I'll take the side of people NOT doing idiotic things like that.

Has nothing to do with "hoping" for bad numbers. If we make scientifically accurate statements about, say, lung cancer, and showing that lots of people die from it, are we cheering for more cancer deaths? I don't think so. But if we minimize the risk of cancer, say from smoking, for stupid reasons, we just might cause more cancer deaths. See how that works?
 
Hmm, I agree with the 99% currently being wrong.

I'd suggest he change the statement in future to the VAST MAJORITY, over 94% of Covid-19 cases are "relatively harmless."

I wonder if that would satisfy nay-sayers. Probably not, they'd figure out some way to turn that smile upside down. :coffeepap:

Well, we can only deal with what he DID say, not with what you might have preferred he said in an alternative reality. But your reflexive defense of Trump with a hypothetical red herring is noted.

:yawn:
 
43003 cases yesterday, 212 deaths

The new fatalities obviously correspond with old cases, not new ones, but IF this trend holds up, and fatalities don’t curve back up, that’s a 99.5% survival rate

Not saying this proves Trump’s claim, but it’s not out of the ballpark

I've shown you on another thread that it takes about a month from exposure to virus ==> reported death, so what point are you trying to make here? Get back with us in 3-4 weeks and we'll know the death rate from those cases announced yesterday. You know this. :confused:

And you've also conflated "didn't die" with "virus is harmless." Which is stupid of course. Surely you know at least 100s of thousands spent up to weeks in the hospital, some of them hooked up to ventilators, others in ICU. Do you think those people would characterize the virus as "harmless" because they lived through it?
 
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