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I WANT to catch COVID.

Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Well, as others have pointed out, death would probably be considered a downside.

I get what you're saying, though, it really is ****. And honestly, I don't think we go back to the way it was before, whether we catch this thing or not. I mean, can you imagine going to a buffet right now? hehe... This was a big deal, no matter what side of it you come down on. So, I get what you're saying.

For me, it came down to a very simple realization. Not sure if it'll help you, but here it goes. I realized that it didn't matter if my family and I had to stay in our home for the rest of our lives, doors locked, shades drawn, it would still be preferable to watching either my wife or my son die from this thing, or watching them watch me die. That in that moment we would give anything to have that miserable existence, instead of saying goodbye. It doesn't matter the odds. If it turned out that the odds went against us, and one of us died from something that could easily be avoided through a simple change in behavior, it would be the kind of regret you don't come back from.

That's why I wear masks and follow a better safe than sorry strategy. I can say whatever I want about how much living this way sucks, but my perspective would change dramatically if, God forbid, we fell on the wrong side of statistics, because we couldn't make sacrifices.

Don't get Covid, man. It might work out just fine for you, but it might not. Do something positive to get rid of the stress, talk to someone if you gotta, but hoping to catch a disease that is currently killing people in all demographics, all around the world, is probably not the best place to land on this one.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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I want to catch Covid so I can infect BLM protests.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm still not afraid.

Statistics are on my side.
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You should also consider the likelihood that having COVID would be considered a pre-existing condition for health insurance. Under the ACA that is not a problem but should the ACA go away and pre-existing conditions are no longer protected, this could pose a problem getting health insurance.
 
CaughtInThe said:
what are the long term ramifications of this virus?
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It depends. Some people have permanent lung damage. Other people have scaring on the liver and kidneys. Other people got strokes, and a fair number lost their sense of smell and taste (and in many cases, it seems to be permanent.)
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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the downside is that being infected might not prevent reinfection.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Almost none. In your age group, without diabetes or heart disease, you will be fine. Of course, it is possible your reaction will be misery for several weeks (or none at all) but you won't die and their won't be long term effects.
 
CaughtInThe said:
what are the long term ramifications of this virus?
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No one knows how long, if at all, any acquired immunity lasts: we DO know that Covid can cause permanent, debilitating lung damage.

Hoping to catch this disease is almost as stupid as pretending it’s not as serious as it is.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I would willingly go through the COVID battle if it meant that I could go back to life the way it was for me before all of this **** started.
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It won't.

First of all, getting COVID doesn't necessarily confer immunity. Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health, says the following:

A big question is whether somebody who has had COVID-19 is now immune from getting it again. So far we don’t see compelling evidence of people getting reinfected, but that’s still a bit early to say for sure. That’s going to make a huge difference in everything we try to do about this going forward. A vaccine, of course, depends upon the idea that immunity is protective.

The usual way you conclude that is because people who’ve had the natural illness don’t get it again. We think that’s true for COVID-19, but it would be great to be more sure of that. The other big question mark is if you are immune, how long does that last? Is this going to be a condition where you’ve had it once and you’re protected for the rest of your life? Or will you gradually become susceptible again?.... We don’t know. There are lots of uncertainties.


Second, if you get COVID-19, there is (as already noted in this thread) a chance it can kill you, or cause long-term medical problems.


Third, if you get COVID-19, there is a very high chance you'll pass it to someone else, especially someone you know. That person, in turn, could get seriously ill and possibly die.


Last but not least, the entire world is still going to be in the same predicament as before you got sick. No one is issuing Red Badges of COVID-19 Survival. You aren't going to have a free pass to hug whoever you want. You won't get special dispensation to go to bars or restaurants. There won't be concerts just for people who recovered from COVID -- or people who claim they recovered from COVID. It is not possible for your life, and only your life, to go "back to normal" when the pandemic is still spinning out of control everywhere else.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Nick Cordero, Broadway actor, dies at 41 after battle with Covid-19
 
maxparrish said:
Almost none. In your age group, without diabetes or heart disease, you will be fine. Of course, it is possible your reaction will be misery for several weeks (or none at all) but you won't die and their won't be long term effects.
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I don’t know About that. It seems this thing follows general patterns, but it still seems to hit some people pretty idiosyncratically, regardless of your demographics. You don’t know if you’ll be fine, even if young and otherwise healthy.

Why did Nick Cordero just die? From what I understand, he was 41 and otherwise pretty healthy.
 
ataraxia said:
I don’t know About that. It seems this thing follows general patterns, but it still seems to hit some people pretty idiosyncratically, regardless of your demographics. You don’t know if you’ll be fine, even if young and otherwise healthy.

Why did Nick Cordero just die? From what I understand, he was 41 and otherwise pretty healthy.
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Extremely rare for a 41 year old who has no underlying medical conditions. And the the very long length of his illness, and various organ failure is also very odd, as is that a test failed to detect the virus initially when had it fully impacting him.

Perhaps an autopsy, if done, will reveal more, But middle aged people can also die of the flu, so its not impossible.
 
ataraxia said:
I don’t know About that. It seems this thing follows general patterns, but it still seems to hit some people pretty idiosyncratically, regardless of your demographics. You don’t know if you’ll be fine, even if young and otherwise healthy.

Why did Nick Cordero just die? From what I understand, he was 41 and otherwise pretty healthy.
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We don't know his medical history. For all we know he was snorting cocaine every day or screwing a hooked every day.

Healthy people can die from this virus, although the odds are very rare. You can die from having appendices. There are things called complications.
 
Bucky said:
We don't know his medical history. For all we know he was snorting cocaine every day or screwing a hooked every day.

Healthy people can die from this virus, although the odds are very rare. You can die from having appendices. There are things called complications.
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He was married with a baby. Maybe you shouldn't slander some guy who just died, Bucky. :roll:
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Until it completely blows over or an effective vaccine is developed - whichever comes 1st - life won't go completely back to normal.

So even if you acquire it and fully recover, you'll still be restricted from patronizing certain business establishments, traveling to certain areas, and will be required to mask up.
 
COVID-19 and hospital capacity: 5 key updates out of Florida, Texas, California and Arizona

1. Hospitals in two Texas counties reached capacity over the weekend

2. Houston hospitals could be overwhelmed in two weeks

3. Adult ICU beds were 100 percent occupied at 44 Florida hospitals at the time of publication

4. Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer, PhD, is urging hospitals in the county to have surge plans ready

5. In Arizona, 89 percent of adult ICU beds were occupied as of July 4
 
As I read through this tread I see people questioning how long the immunity last, once a person recovers from Covid-19.
It is worth noting that any vaccine does the same thing, it tricks the body into thinking it has Covid-19 to generate the antibodies.
I suspect that even if the the antibody levels fall off, after recovery, the body still maintains the antibody blueprint.
For any vaccine to work, that is a requirement.
As to the original OP, perhaps you should spend the money for the antibody test, perhaps you already had Covid-19
and did not notice!
 
Bucky said:
People that smoke, are they afraid of getting lung cancer?

People that eat fried food every day? Are they afraid of getting diabetes?
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They must not be, but it's likely that they will get lung cancer, emphysema, COPD, heart disease, diabetes, strokes, or some other consequence of their bad judgement.
 
joko104 said:
Curiously a few studies have shown that smokers have a very low rate of contracting covid-19. They are not sure why. Since cigarette smoke has something like 3000 chemicals and 300 poisons, that might be why. Or the smoker's lungs are so crapped up with tar that the virus can reach cells - or is killed by the poisons in the tar before having a chance to.

Who ever thought that cigarette smoking might actually save someone's life?
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That is a surprising finding.

So, should we all take up smoking to reduce the risk of infection?
 
joko104 said:
Curiously a few studies have shown that smokers have a very low rate of contracting covid-19. They are not sure why. Since cigarette smoke has something like 3000 chemicals and 300 poisons, that might be why. Or the smoker's lungs are so crapped up with tar that the virus can reach cells - or is killed by the poisons in the tar before having a chance to.

Who ever thought that cigarette smoking might actually save someone's life?
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I am curious...has there been any study of those smokers that do contract Covid-19? Are the less apt to die or more?
 
year2late said:
I am curious...has there been any study of those smokers that do contract Covid-19? Are the less apt to die or more?
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Yes, but I tire of searching out and posting the same links over and over since no one changes their mind about anything on the forum.

They found that smokers have a much lower incidence of infection and death - which was surprising. They are not sure why. Cigarette smoke has over 3,000 chemicals and hundreds of poisons. Maybe that is why. Maybe because smokers lungs are so coated with tar that it traps the virus or weakens/slows/kills it before about to penetrate cells and reproduce.

Odd to think that being a smoker might save a person's life. No one expected the conclusion but there were 3 studies on this if I remember correctly. Since that is the last thing they want to publicize it as some people might see that as reason to start smoking or to not stop, there was little coverage of it.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That is a surprising finding.

So, should we all take up smoking to reduce the risk of infection?
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Yes, very surprising. But taking up smoking would only do anything if it is the cigarette smoke doing it, not how crapped up a smoker's lungs are. I suspect it is the latter. The virus gets stuck to the tar in the person's lungs and dies there.
 
joko104 said:
Yes, but I tire of searching out and posting the same links over and over since no one changes their mind about anything on the forum.

They found that smokers have a much lower incidence of infection and death - which was surprising. They are not sure why. Cigarette smoke has over 3,000 chemicals and hundreds of poisons. Maybe that is why. Maybe because smokers lungs are so coated with tar that it traps the virus or weakens/slows/kills it before about to penetrate cells and reproduce.

Odd to think that being a smoker might save a person's life. No one expected the conclusion but there were 3 studies on this if I remember correctly. Since that is the last thing they want to publicize it as some people might see that as reason to start smoking or to not stop, there was little coverage of it.
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Sadly, if the person does not die of coronavirus....smoking will likely eventually contribute to their premature death. I am an ICU RN and most of our patients were smokers. (that will depend on the type of ICU you work in)If smoking did not directly cause their death, it made the process of weaning from the ventilator more challenging and frankly torturous.

Hopefully nobody will take up smoking to save them from covid.:shock:
 
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