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I WANT to catch COVID.

joko104 said:
Don't wear a mask, particularly if you are infected. However, to not infect others? Stay inside. Total quarantine for a couple of weeks. Wearing a mask would have you infecting people. Homemade masks, surgical masks and dust masks protect no one. They spread virus and bacteria. They harm and weaken the wearer.

If you are infected with covid-19 (or any other viral or bacterial infection) you are more likely to suffer serious health consequences or die if wear a mask - thus you lower your oxygen intake, increase your co2 intake, re-breathing hot wet air that is increasingly filled with more and more covid-19 plus other viruses and bacteria your body also has to fight off.

Because death rates totally contradict the wear-masks and shutdown orders, they now only talk about "cases." Cases are irrelevant. Death rates are all that matter. The question is not just whether a person contracts covid-19 or not - though the MSM, press and talking heads claim so. The question is whether you die if you contract covid-19. That is largely a race between the virus and your body's immune system.

Masks SERIOUSLY cripple your immune system, your entire health and particularly your brain functions not only to fight the covid-19, but then all the other viruses and bacteria your body is constantly having to fight by constantly re-breathing viruses and bacteria and the worst possible hot, wet low (as much as 1/3th) oxygen and an equal increase in co2.
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I'm not sure who is giving you medical advice, but you shouldn't trust them.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Hospitals are more prepared this time around than before. For example, nurses are putting patients on their stomachs to help with their breathing instead of on their back. Blood thinners are working and so Remdesivir is working.

According to the New York Times, we are testing at a rate x6 more than we were in April (100k vs 600k). Deaths are not going to go up dramatically because we are better prepared.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Well, just off the top... we do not know for sure that you can only catch this once, we do not know the long term impacts on the body, and we do not have enough specifics to guarantee who recovers and who dies from coronavirus.

My immediate suggestion is to retract your statement here.
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I'm not retracting anything.

I would willingly go through the COVID battle if it meant that I could go back to life the way it was for me before all of this **** started.

DEAD SERIOUS.
 
AmNat said:
Based on what we know of coronaviruses, immunity is probably not permanent. Though you'll probably be covered through November 3rd, after which the virus will be less of a problem.
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Oh, look, a troother...:lamo
 
Bucky said:
Hospitals are more prepared this time around than before. For example, nurses are putting patients on their stomachs to help with their breathing instead of on their back. Blood thinners are working and so Remdesivir is working.

According to the New York Times, we are testing at a rate x6 more than we were in April (100k vs 600k). Deaths are not going to go up dramatically because we are better prepared.
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which is exactly the strategy of smart people. prevent as many deaths as possible (up front) while the medical community catches up.
 
joko104 said:
Don't wear a mask, particularly if you are infected. However, to not infect others? Stay inside. Total quarantine for a couple of weeks. Wearing a mask would have you infecting people. Homemade masks, surgical masks and dust masks protect no one. They spread virus and bacteria. They harm and weaken the wearer.

If you are infected with covid-19 (or any other viral or bacterial infection) you are more likely to suffer serious health consequences or die if wear a mask - thus you lower your oxygen intake, increase your co2 intake, re-breathing hot wet air that is increasingly filled with more and more covid-19 plus other viruses and bacteria your body also has to fight off.

Because death rates totally contradict the wear-masks and shutdown orders, they now only talk about "cases." Cases are irrelevant. Death rates are all that matter. The question is not just whether a person contracts covid-19 or not - though the MSM, press and talking heads claim so. The question is whether you die if you contract covid-19. That is largely a race between the virus and your body's immune system.

Masks SERIOUSLY cripple your immune system, your entire health and particularly your brain functions not only to fight the covid-19, but then all the other viruses and bacteria your body is constantly having to fight by constantly re-breathing viruses and bacteria and the worst possible hot, wet low (as much as 1/3th) oxygen and an equal increase in co2.
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Complete BS.

Stop putting out garbage and lies just for trolling sake.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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From a risk assessment perspective, I would take into consideration the fact there's no certainty on whether you'll end up having any of the lasting impacts of COVID 19. I would recommend doing more research into that before making a decision to catch it. There also isn't conclusive information on the length and effectiveness of immunity. What has helped me is adapting to the new situation with the hopes that everyone acting in kind reduces the amount of time we have to live this way. I'm pretty adaptable, so I've made due in keeping most of my physical activities, but modifying when I do them to avoid people. I'm an avid cyclist, so that means early morning rides. I carry a mask with me but rarely have to use it because I've been the only person on the road in the early hours.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not retracting anything.

I would willingly go through the COVID battle if it meant that I could go back to life the way it was for me before all of this **** started.

DEAD SERIOUS.
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Life is not going to go back to the way it was, even if you recover from COVID-19. It's just not worth it. I care about you, and I understand your frustration, but you know that it's not a good idea.
 
joko104 said:
Then vaccinations are worthless and it is basically inevitable nearly everyone will get it sooner or later anyway.
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I'm not a medical professional but you could be correct. I really don't know. Maybe developing a treatment is more important than a vaccine.
 
beefheart said:
Complete BS.

Stop putting out garbage and lies just for trolling sake.
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it's guaranteed that some people will believe his kind of arguments. hell, Rush and Sean shovel it out almost daily.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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Possible hospitalization & death.

As for me, I plan on being in the 30% of the herd that never gets it.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not retracting anything.

I would willingly go through the COVID battle if it meant that I could go back to life the way it was for me before all of this **** started.

DEAD SERIOUS.
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Are you just not interested in reading? No one can guarantee the “if” part.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not retracting anything.

I would willingly go through the COVID battle if it meant that I could go back to life the way it was for me before all of this **** started.

DEAD SERIOUS.
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I think lots of people would rather just be sick for a while and then recover than to undergo the social distancing and sheltering in place and all of the rest of it. I've had the flu, and pneumonia as a matter of fact, and would rather have that and get over it than stay home and stay away from people. This situation sucks.

But, we unfortunately don't have that option. Getting the virus is no guarantee that your life can return to normal.
 
TheGoverness said:
Life is not going to go back to the way it was, even if you recover from COVID-19. It's just not worth it. I care about you, and I understand your frustration, but you know that it's not a good idea.
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Suddenly everyone is a health expert or expert on infectious disease.
 
Hari Seldon said:
I'm not a medical professional but you could be correct. I really don't know. Maybe developing a treatment is more important than a vaccine.
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There are some vaccine trials that are showing promise, at least from what I've read, but it's going to be a while before it'll be viable and produced at a mass scale.
 
avatar said:
1. you die
2. you don't get immunity and you get it again in a while
2a. you die
3. you recover from covid and spend the rest of your life fighting off organ failure caused by covid
3a. you die from organ failure.
4. you catch covid and pass it on to 18 other people some of whom die.
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Well aren’t you just all Mr. TheGlassisHalfEmpty?
 
Bucky said:
Suddenly everyone is a health expert or expert on infectious disease.
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Did I say I was an expert on infectious disease? Fact of the matter is, life isn't going to be "normal" in any sense, for the foreseeable future. I don't need a medical degree to come to that obvious conclusion.

Why don't you go back to blaming rape victims for being raped?
 
ElChupacabra said:
From a risk assessment perspective, I would take into consideration the fact there's no certainty on whether you'll end up having any of the lasting impacts of COVID 19. I would recommend doing more research into that before making a decision to catch it. There also isn't conclusive information on the length and effectiveness of immunity. What has helped me is adapting to the new situation with the hopes that everyone acting in kind reduces the amount of time we have to live this way. I'm pretty adaptable, so I've made due in keeping most of my physical activities, but modifying when I do them to avoid people. I'm an avid cyclist, so that means early morning rides. I carry a mask with me but rarely have to use it because I've been the only person on the road in the early hours.
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I wear a mask, other than for short intervals while eating lunch, all ****ing day, every ****ing day. I wear the ****ing thing while I'm not working whenever the **** I go. Anywhere where there are other people.(grocery store, etc...)

I'm not afraid of the long term effects of COVID, whatever they may be. Not even a little.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm not sure who is giving you medical advice, but you shouldn't trust them.
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Rather than just keep posting the same links, it is far easier than that. Just look at the death rates per population state by state - and compare this to which have and have not followed strict wear-masks, shut-down, stay home orders. You are demanding people do where the death rates per population are the highest. That is idiotic to me.

Talking heads on TV giving opinion is worthless. Every expert who now recommends masks previous urged not to. The only people who get on TV are those the station wants on TV - meaning will say what the station wants them to say. Same for the newspaper. Same who who the Internet companies feature. Who owns all TV stations, all newspapers and the Internet search engines? The richest people on earth. The same people massively profiting in wealth and power - while their merchant class and brick and mortar competitors are ordered in permanent ruin and bankruptcy on summary edicts.

Simply, the super rich totally control you, your thoughts and your emotions. But even though death rate stats back up what I claim, it doesn't matter. As Joe Biden said, Democrats no longer will accept facts. This is strictly political to you. Your team has ordered you want to do and think.

Trump just said people should wear masks. I did agree and have no problem saying so. I disagree with Trump on many things.

There is one other aspect, though. That is that I actually value the quality of my life, not just technically staying alive. If the singular goal was to stay alive? I'd lock myself in a room filled with numerous types of air filtration, ordering everything online but not bringing it in for 2 weeks. In fact, when I did get very sick a couple months ago I did totally quarantine myself from everyone. Turned out it was probably just the flu since I since tested negative.

If wearing a mask would protect people or myself I'd wear one. If worried of myself I would wear one of the positive pressure (battery operated pump) bio-hazards face shield/ventilators - but they do not offer any protection to exhaled air.

Every 2 years we are assured their is some pandemic in the works that is going to kill tens of millions. China now has informed us there is a new form of H1N1 circulating - and like they did for covid-19 insists it poises no risks. There are hundreds and hundreds of viruses that can harm and kill people. You breath in (and out) millions of virus with every breath. The last time you breathed in a harmful virus was your last breath and the last time a harmful virus landed on your eyes? Now. Every now.

Are you going to wear masks forever? Or just when millionaire spokespersons for the richest people on earth tell you to?
 
OrphanSlug said:
Are you just not interested in reading? No one can guarantee the “if” part.
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I never said anything about needing a guarantee. NOTHING in life is guaranteed.

My point, if there is a point, is that TO ME, the risk is worth it.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Seriously, I do.

I'm sick and ****ing tired of living this way. I'm 52 and healthy and with no underlying health conditions. The way I see it, if I catch the disease and recover, I can then freely go about my life without fear of getting it again or infecting anybody else. Fight it off while quarantining myself, wait until I'm "COVID free", and then go back to life the way it was before all of this started.

I'm in. Well worth it in my mind. What's the downside?
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The thing is, even if you were to get it and fully recover? You might be surprised you're in the same world. People around you would still be doing social distancing, states or counties would still require masks, bars and restaurants would still be limited or closed. And the key word is "fully" recover. What are your odds of returning to your healthy 52 year old body? Idk, but I know there's no guarantee.

As a side note there are covid parties teens are attending and whoever gets it first wins the grand prize from entry fees. I'm almost concerned that they think catch the virus then eat a Tide Pod is the winner winner chicken dinner recipe. :doh
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I wear a mask, other than for short intervals while eating lunch, all ****ing day, every ****ing day. I wear the ****ing thing while I'm not working whenever the **** I go. Anywhere where there are other people.(grocery store, etc...)

I'm not afraid of the long term effects of COVID, whatever they may be. Not even a little.
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I'm not afraid of them either, but that doesn't mean I want to catch it. The one I found interesting is the lung damage and long term fatigue. As someone who is active, that's a risk I'd rather avoid. Also, you don't have to wear a mask every waking moment; unless you're going the N95 respirator and trying to avoid catching it. If you have moments when you're not around people you can take it off.
 
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