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Covid 19 Close to Losing Epidemic Status

snakestretcher said:
The above, I believe, is what a psychologist would recognise as projection. My career was in medicine. What is your medical sphere of expertise?

Immune responses and immunity to SARS-CoV-2
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Bully for you Doctor. Might you explain just why it is that other doctors take plasma with antibodies and inject it into humans sick with Covid?

Or would you rather wax sentimental about your education and career?
 
grip said:
On the one hand, I'm sick of the media hype about covid, masks, distancing (a joke) and the shutting down of restaurants, and on the other hand, I just got over a month and half of covid. And it's no joke, so much of the precautions were and are warranted.

BTW, FL had a Sat tally of a record 11,458 new cases.
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Just think, you had it for 6 weeks. Others had to go to the hospital, and be put on ventilators.
 
Wayne Jr said:
I was wrong to assume everyone would see that my sending thoughts and prayers to covid-19...not victims of covid-19, but to covid-19 itself...was obviously satire.

Once again I've over estimated the intelligence present on this forum.
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Sometimes, humor and sarcasm is inappropriate.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Your cognitive dissonance is magnificent to behold SS!

Or is it just plain old-fashioned willful ignorance? :doh
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He backed up his point with actual scholarly articles. Can you do the same?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Bully for you Doctor. Might you explain just why it is that other doctors take plasma with antibodies and inject it into humans sick with Covid?

Or would you rather wax sentimental about your education and career?
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Why? They are experimenting, that's what. There is still NO data confirming either long or short-term immunity post-infection. None.
 
Conservative said:
The latest world results show the United Kingdom with almost double the death percentage to infections as the U.S. and almost 15 times more than TX. An indictment against the Universal Healthcare System?

7/5/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2932047 132007 4.5%

New York 397131 32188 8.1%

California 260155 6331 2.4%

New Jersey 173402 15211 8.8%

Texas 195239 2637 1.4%

Florida 200111 3731 1.9%

Illinois 147251 7020 4.8%

Massachusetts 109974 8183 7.4%

Canada 105535 8684 8.2%

Great Britain 285416 44220 15.5%

WORLD 11419529 533780 4.7%
China 83534 4634 5.5%
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Oh dear. Does that explain why your rates are through the roof while all of Europe's, including the UK, are dropping fast? You have the world's worst rates of infection while we are reopening. And do you know why that is? It's simply because we value our lives, our health and common-sense over whining about violating Holy Rights and ignoring sensible precautions. That's America's problem; quit whining about 'freedom!' and use your brains for the purpose for which they were designed; thinking.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing

Examine your chart for cases in the US and compare with Europe. It isn't encouraging.
 
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snakestretcher said:
Oh dear. Does that explain why your rates are through the roof while all of Europe's, including the UK, are dropping fast? You have the world's worst rates of infection while we are reopening. And do you know why that is? It's simply because we value our lives, our health and common-sense over whining about violating Holy Rights and ignoring sensible precautions. That's America's problem; quit whining about 'freedom!' and use your brains for the purpose for which they were designed; thinking.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing

Examine your chart for cases in the US and compare with Europe. It isn't encouraging.
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Compared to your country is a more valid comparison as apparently you don't understand you control your "own" world and cannot control the rest of the world. I have the ability to understand the difference. The U.S. at 4.5%, the World at 4.7% with China's manipulated numbers, and yours at 15.5% seems to indicate where the problem lies

Serenity Prayer

Grant to us the serenity of mind to accept that which cannot be changed; courage to change that which can be changed, and wisdom to know the one from the other
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snakestretcher said:
A prayer? FFS:roll:
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Yes, so sorry that religion bothers you so much, the prayer makes a lot of sense except to radicals like you. your country saw the effects of liberalism and voted that ideology out, still you cling to it trying to divert from your own problems to spreading propaganda in this country

You aren't changing any minds here nor am I but the reality exists, control what can, recognize what you cannot
 
Conservative said:
OMG, are you really this clueless, he has been attacked 24/7 since January 2020 regarding the pandemic and 24/7 on other issues since November 2016. I suggest you pay attention to the following alternative message regarding the virus, 17 minutes well worth it

YouTube


There really is a disconnect from the Party of tolerance when it comes to listen to dissent
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it's always informative when you people think we should tolerate fascists. Great signalling.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Your cognitive dissonance is magnificent to behold SS!

Or is it just plain old-fashioned willful ignorance? :doh
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Snakestretcher is technically correct in that there is no direct evidence of immunity in human to date, but there is evidence suggestive of immunity. First, there is the fact that rhesus monkeys once infected with the virus and survive the disease, cannot be reinfected once re-exposed. This test seen rightly as unethical to do on a human, so we don't have direct data for human, but the rhesus monkey immune response is very similar to ours. So again, while it's technically correct to say there is no hard evidence, everything we know about other viral diseases coupled with the new data about 're-infected' people (they show viral load in PCR testing, however these were found to be fragments and not deemed viable to infect others) indicates that it is likely safe to assume that recovered people do in fact have some measure of immunity for some undetermined length of time.
 
Thoreau72 said:
We are in the middle of a "crisis" created by MSM and government bureaucracies. The crisis exists only on TV and the front page of NYT and others.

Meanwhile, life goes on, mask or no mask. Many infections and very few deaths do not make a crisis.
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You must get special extra Cult dessert for that kind of toadyism.
 
chuckiechan said:
There goes Biden’s last talking point. “120 million more will die by election time if you don’t vote for me today!”
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I'm not sure the Cult of Your Dirtbag would even blow spew of BS that big. It's amazing buy you make the Cult look almost sane with that one.
 
Conservative said:
The latest world results show the United Kingdom with almost double the death percentage to infections as the U.S. and almost 15 times more than TX. An indictment against the Universal Healthcare System?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
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Yes, the response to covid-19 by Boris Johnson (a pal of your Dirtbag's, you know) was even a bigger failure that Dirtbag's. But I believe Dirtbag will beat Boris's miserable record in a few months. So there will be cause for celebration by you and the rest of his Cult.
 
digitusmedius said:
Yes, the response to covid-19 by Boris Johnson (a pal of your Dirtbag's, you know) was even a bigger failure that Dirtbag's. But I believe Dirtbag will beat Boris's miserable record in a few months. So there will be cause for celebration by you and the rest of his Cult.
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I believe name calling destroys the liberal narrative coming from a very insecure individual sitting in the comforts of the parents basement. There is no place in this country or civil discord for name calling especially from very immature individuals incapable of debating issues. Blame is what children do when they don't get their way, so immature but apparently that defines liberalism today
 
Here is Google graph on Covid deaths in the US, and deaths from Covid do appear to have been dropping for a while.
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RAMOSS said:
Just think, you had it for 6 weeks. Others had to go to the hospital, and be put on ventilators.
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I was close. I had to run to my doctor's office for a couple of emergency visits for medication (shots) and nebulizer treatments. One minute you're fine, the next you're gasping for air.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Sure SS, that's why they take blood from those with antibodies, spin it down to extract the plasma, and then inject it into patients very sick with Covid. Gawd, the herd mentality is as strong in Britain as it is in the US. :lamo
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??? If a person's immune system didnt fight off CV19 infection, they'd die. Are you saying that everyone that contracts CV19 dies? I think even you know that's not true.

What they're doing with the plasma is trying to get the immune system to rally and fight off an active infection. They're stimulating and hopefully strengthening the immune system. Has nothing to do with conferring future immunity...if that is a natural attribute of infection by that microbial species, it doesnt affect that either way.

Vaccines try to sensitize the immune system to recognize a microbe so that it can attack it and destroy it before it reproduces enough to cause symptoms.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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RAMOSS said:
He backed up his point with actual scholarly articles. Can you do the same?
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Actual scholarly articles? In which the writers are paid by Big Pharma or other vested or bureaucratic interests?

There are many examples of doctors and scientists being paid to write and say certain things favorable to Pharma and others.

If you are personally not aware of that sad fact, read the book by Judy Mikovits. My guess is you won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
 
digitusmedius said:
You must get special extra Cult dessert for that kind of toadyism.
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In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act. In this graceless age of hyperpartisanship it might also be described by the fearful as "toadyism".
 
longview said:
Here is Google graph on Covid deaths in the US, and deaths from Covid do appear to have been dropping for a while.
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My boys had some kind of lizard who's back looked like that. I've never been fond of retiles as pets, myself. I figure they'd eat you if they could.

Infections are increasing. Deaths, so far, are not. We'll know more in a few weeks assuming the course of the disease remains as it has been.
 
longview said:
Here is Google graph on Covid deaths in the US, and deaths from Covid do appear to have been dropping for a while.
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It's amazing to me that NYT even prints that bit of truth, but they do.

Some people like scary movies, and some people like to live in fear. I've never been able to figure it out. Different strokes for different folks is all I can say. :roll:
 
Thoreau72 said:
It's amazing to me that NYT even prints that bit of truth, but they do.

Some people like scary movies, and some people like to live in fear. I've never been able to figure it out. Different strokes for different folks is all I can say. :roll:
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That reminds me of the Soviet saying "there's no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia"
 
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