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Covid 19 Close to Losing Epidemic Status

Epidemic status to be precise.

These people never read links. They overreact.

Agreed. We dont need to worry about 'pandemic' status except in travelling outside the country.

The US can only have an 'epidemic.' "Pan" means global. We are part of a pandemic.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
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Glad you're happy, and your sarcasm aside, nobody said we're almost all safe now.

Less people are dying and that points to the disease losing epidemic status.

death rate is not the criteria for 'epidemic' status. You can have an epidemic of a non-lethal disease. The major criteria is infection rates.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
Name calling is what you do best never focusing on any issues of importance and always placing blame never accepting responsibility. Have you ever admitting being wrong on any issue

You obviously don't know me. When I'm wrong I admit it. One thing I'm not wrong about (along with a sizeable majority of the country right now) is that your Dear Leader is a corrupt, hate-mongering, lying, failed, malignantly narcissistic, traitorous and horrible human being to whom you are devoted as if he were a god.
 
Agreed. We dont need to worry about 'pandemic' status except in travelling outside the country.

The US can only have an 'epidemic.' "Pan" means global. We are part of a pandemic.

It's beginning to look as if covid-19 could be endemic here unless we chuck that bag of worthless lard who's despoiling the White House at present.
 
Let’s ignore the recent spikes all over the Nation in cases, especially TX, AZ, FL, and GA. Ignore future spikes from the July 3rd, Tulsa, and AZ type rallies.

What follows a record # of cases the past week. Then comes hospitalizations. Then death. Then reinfecting other states. Then the 2nd wave. Rolling Thunder.

We must learn to live with it. Live and Let Die.

Yes, but Trumpsters still want to pretend they can ignore it1

After all, didn’t they just read it ins a right wing blog!
 
It's beginning to look as if covid-19 could be endemic here unless we chuck that bag of worthless lard who's despoiling the White House at present.

Mmm, maybe. I havent read any epidemiological papers on that yet. Do you have any links?


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
You obviously don't know me. When I'm wrong I admit it. One thing I'm not wrong about (along with a sizeable majority of the country right now) is that your Dear Leader is a corrupt, hate-mongering, lying, failed, malignantly narcissistic, traitorous and horrible human being to whom you are devoted as if he were a god.

So you claim and yet I see no proof of that or anything that he has done that has hurt you, your family, or the country. Your personal hatred of Trump is irrelevant, want to see an embarrassment, I am posting to one who supports the alternative of Biden and the party support of these issues

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July
The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property
 
Yes, but Trumpsters still want to pretend they can ignore it1

After all, didn’t they just read it ins a right wing blog!

You care to explain to us why infections are more important than recoveries? You really don't understand that the immune system needs a disease to react, and that is what is happening all over the country. You feign concern when the reality is you want the economy shutdown, massive numbers of infections for political gain so that you can implement the following policies

The party that supports the defunding of police?

The Party that wants to take away your freedom of Choice

The party that the anarchists, radicals, racists are going to support
The party that Kaepernick supports Kaepernick Is Wanting the Rage Mob to Cancel the 4th of July
The Party of AOC and the Squad
The party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Schiff and impeachment for political reasons
The party that kneels for the National Anthem and promotes the BLM national Anthem

The party that supports BLM while ignoring that ALL lives matter including the unborn

The party that doesn't condemn the destruction of U.S. Monuments

The party that promotes Class envy

The Party that participates in the politics of personal destruction

The party that promotes Jealousy and totalitarianism

The party that had the most violent and most actual protests, looting, and destruction of property
 
Since a good percentage of the hospitalizations in TX, Fl & AZ are the result of people not wearing masks & not social distancing, they are likely pro-Trump people who may not make it to the voting places on Nov. 3. The COVID-19 is pro-Biden, anti-Trump.
The ‘less than 1%’ lie is another ‘big fascist’ lie by trump.

130k deaths divided by 2,876k cases is ~ 5%. This doesn’t represent permanent disabilities from COVID either. Nor what many go through to live and let die.

Since deaths follow cases, our fellow Americans are playing Russian Roulette every time they break safety rules. While asymptomatic, they infect others like a pyramid.
 
The ‘less than 1%’ lie is another ‘big fascist’ lie by trump.

130k deaths divided by 2,876k cases is ~ 5%. This doesn’t represent permanent disabilities from COVID either. Nor what many go through to live and let die.

Since deaths follow cases, our fellow Americans are playing Russian Roulette every time they break safety rules. While asymptomatic, they infect others like a pyramid.

Do you realize how little credibility you have on any issue? your state is a fiscal and social disaster and representative of liberal policies that have consumed Chicago for decades. when was the last time Chicago had a Republican Mayor and City council? Are you happy with the Chicago results or are things that comfortable in the basement of a parents home? Maybe you should get out mHerore and find out what his happening in your city. Wear a bullet proof vest

Here are the results you want to ignore

7/3/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2847469 131509 4.6%

New York 395872 24866 6.3%

California 248235 6263 2.5%

New Jersey 172742 15164 8.8%

Texas 183532 2575 1.4%

Florida 178594 3684 2.1%

Illinois 145750 7005 4.8%

Massachusetts 108882 8060 7.4%

Keep focusing on infections ignoring infection rates and death to infections. TX is at .1% in infections almost 183,000 on a population of 30 million. What is your state? Texas Death to infections is 1.4%, Illinois is almost 4 times that high and a population 17 MILLION People fewer. You have real problems in your state thus no business throwing stones at another, oh by the way, off topic, another great weekend in Chicago with murders with another 67 shot and 13 murdered over the weekend yet you are oblivious to what is going on in your state and around the nation

Fourth of July weekend marked by violence as girl, 7, among dead in Chicago, cities see deadly shootings | Fox News
 
I was wrong to assume everyone would see that my sending thoughts and prayers to covid-19...not victims of covid-19, but to covid-19 itself...was obviously satire.

Once again I've over estimated the intelligence present on this forum.

Satire is difficult to recognise without facial expression and vocal inflection as clues. Apologies if I was mistaken. Unfortunately several posters here post unbelievable nonsense which could easily be mistaken for satire, yet they're deadly serious. It's usually the ardent Trump fans, eulogising a failed and illiterate idiot as though he were the Second Coming.
 
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Yes I am in the high risk category and don't need the President to tell me to wear a mask as I am doing that. The video however certainly has me looking differently at the virus and more on recoveries and not the number of infections as that is what boosts the immune system and will defeat the virus.

There is NO evidence yet of long-term or short-term immunity post-infection-in fact there is no hard evidence of any immunity; there is an assumption based on little more than experience with other viruses, and one small inconclusive study done on primates. Err on the side of caution is my advice, and don't allow yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security. Whatever platitudes your government might be offering you, including Trump saying he has it "under control", this pandemic is far from over and I firmly believe you haven't seen the worst of it yet. Wear a mask, distance yourself from others as much as possible and wash your hands frequently. I'm 67, in a vulnerable group and this thing terrifies me frankly. I'm not ready for a premature death just yet. Take care.

COVID-19 and Postinfection Immunity: Limited Evidence, Many Remaining Questions | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

"Definitive data on post-infection immunity are lacking".
 
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According to the CDC 10 straight weeks of declining deaths. Thus the coming removal of epidemic status. :applaud
That's not what the CDC said was going to happen though. They only stated that rate put it at the pandemic threshold but also noted a likely increase was coming.

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Let’s ignore the recent spikes all over the Nation in cases, especially TX, AZ, FL, and GA. Ignore future spikes from the July 3rd, Tulsa, and AZ type rallies.

What follows a record # of cases the past week. Then comes hospitalizations. Then death. Then reinfecting other states. Then the 2nd wave. Rolling Thunder.

We must learn to live with it. Live and Let Die.

I'm not convinced a huge rush of deaths will follow though, that's the thing. There are many more confirmed cases, yes, this may or may not be a function of more testing, or there might truly be more cases. But recent data was release that shows the average amount of time from onset of symptoms to hospitalization is 6.6 days, and to death is about 10 days. This recent spike in cases started more than 6.6 and more than 10 days ago, yet no death spike has been shown. I think the summer, better vitamin 'D' levels, perhaps lower viral loads as inoculate might be factors in better outcomes for people. I'm hoping so anyway. Also it needs to be said the America never did manage to control the first wave, you're still in the first wave.
 
Good to hear!

Population is too old and lives too close together. Two plus two always equals four. Nature is heartless. Evolution doesn't care. The strong survive and the weak perish.
 
There is NO evidence yet of long-term or short-term immunity post-infection-in fact there is no hard evidence of any immunity; there is an assumption based on little more than experience with other viruses, and one small inconclusive study done on primates. Err on the side of caution is my advice, and don't allow yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security. Whatever platitudes your government might be offering you, including Trump saying he has it "under control", this pandemic is far from over and I firmly believe you haven't seen the worst of it yet. Wear a mask, distance yourself from others as much as possible and wash your hands frequently. I'm 67, in a vulnerable group and this thing terrifies me frankly. I'm not ready for a premature death just yet. Take care.

COVID-19 and Postinfection Immunity: Limited Evidence, Many Remaining Questions | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

"Definitive data on post-infection immunity are lacking".

Hard to have LONG TERM EVIDENCE on a pandemic that is still short term. Our immune systems are a lot more complex and better than you want to believe as this is really more political than you want to acknowledge
 
Hard to have LONG TERM EVIDENCE on a pandemic that is still short term. Our immune systems are a lot more complex and better than you want to believe as this is really more political than you want to acknowledge

I worked in medicine (cervical pathology), and have medical training. Our immune systems are fragile-especially so when compromised by, for example, frequent over-prescribing of antibiotics when inappropriate.

Antibiotic use in America: 30 percent of prescriptions '''inappropriate'''

Antibiotics found to weaken immune response to disease

Your politicians bickering and trying to score political points over each other is not our experience in Europe where a sensible, cooperative approach between political opponents, who understand that working together is more productive than antagonising each other, has resulted in dramatic falls in rates of infection.
 
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I worked in medicine (cervical pathology), and have medical training. Our immune systems are fragile-especially so when compromised by, for example, frequent use of antibiotics.

So what is your opinion of the trauma doctor's comments? What exactly is a vaccine?

YouTube
 
There is NO evidence yet of long-term or short-term immunity post-infection-in fact there is no hard evidence of any immunity; there is an assumption based on little more than experience with other viruses, and one small inconclusive study done on primates. Err on the side of caution is my advice, and don't allow yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security. Whatever platitudes your government might be offering you, including Trump saying he has it "under control", this pandemic is far from over and I firmly believe you haven't seen the worst of it yet. Wear a mask, distance yourself from others as much as possible and wash your hands frequently. I'm 67, in a vulnerable group and this thing terrifies me frankly. I'm not ready for a premature death just yet. Take care.

COVID-19 and Postinfection Immunity: Limited Evidence, Many Remaining Questions | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

"Definitive data on post-infection immunity are lacking".

Sure SS, that's why they take blood from those with antibodies, spin it down to extract the plasma, and then inject it into patients very sick with Covid. Gawd, the herd mentality is as strong in Britain as it is in the US. :lamo
 
Sure SS, that's why they take blood from those with antibodies, spin it down to extract the plasma, and then inject it into patients very sick with Covid. Gawd, the herd mentality is as strong in Britain as it is in the US. :lamo

You have no idea what you're talking about. There is NO hard data available or evidence of conferred immunity either short term or long term. There is, however, evidence of re-infection post-recovery.

Six months of coronavirus: the mysteries scientists are still racing to solve

Immune responses and immunity to SARS-CoV-2

"The detection of antibodies does not indicate directly protective immunity, and correlates of protection for Covid-19 have not yet been established"
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about. There is NO evidence of conferred immunity either short term or long term. There is, however, evidence of re-infection post-recovery.

Your cognitive dissonance is magnificent to behold SS!

Or is it just plain old-fashioned willful ignorance? :doh
 
Your cognitive dissonance is magnificent to behold SS!

Or is it just plain old-fashioned willful ignorance? :doh

The above, I believe, is what a psychologist would recognise as projection. My career was in medicine; specifically cervical cytopathology where dealing with viruses was a daily event. What is your area of medical expertise?

Immune responses and immunity to SARS-CoV-2
 
You have no idea what you're talking about. There is NO hard data available or evidence of conferred immunity either short term or long term. There is, however, evidence of re-infection post-recovery.

Six months of coronavirus: the mysteries scientists are still racing to solve

Immune responses and immunity to SARS-CoV-2

"The detection of antibodies does not indicate directly protective immunity, and correlates of protection for Covid-19 have not yet been established"

The latest world results show the United Kingdom with almost double the death percentage to infections as the U.S. and almost 15 times more than TX. An indictment against the Universal Healthcare System?

7/5/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2932047 132007 4.5%

New York 397131 32188 8.1%

California 260155 6331 2.4%

New Jersey 173402 15211 8.8%

Texas 195239 2637 1.4%

Florida 200111 3731 1.9%

Illinois 147251 7020 4.8%

Massachusetts 109974 8183 7.4%

Canada 105535 8684 8.2%

Great Britain 285416 44220 15.5%

WORLD 11419529 533780 4.7%
China 83534 4634 5.5%
Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
 
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