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New study on Hydroxychloroquine shows significant reduction in COVID-19 mortality

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https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19

Results
Of 2,541 patients, with a median total hospitalization time of 6 days (IQR: 4-10 days), median age was 64 years (IQR:53-76 years), 51% male, 56% African American, with median time to follow-up of 28.5 days (IQR:3-53). Overall in-hospital mortality was 18.1% (95% CI:16.6%-19.7%); by treatment: hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin, 157/783 (20.1% [95% CI: 17.3%-23.0%]), hydroxychloroquine alone, 162/1202 (13.5% [95% CI: 11.6%-15.5%]), azithromycin alone, 33/147 (22.4% [95% CI: 16.0%-30.1%]), and neither drug, 108/409 (26.4% [95% CI: 22.2%-31.0%])​. Primary cause of mortality was respiratory failure (88%); no patient had documented torsades de pointes. From Cox regression modeling, predictors of mortality were age>65 years (HR:2.6 [95% CI:1.9-3.3]), white race (HR:1.7 [95% CI:1.4-2.1]), CKD (HR:1.7 [95%CI:1.4-2.1]), reduced O2 saturation level on admission (HR:1.5 [95%CI:1.1-2.1]), and ventilator use during admission (HR: 2.2 [95%CI:1.4-3.3]). Hydroxychloroquine provided a 66% hazard ratio reduction, and hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin 71% compared to neither treatment (p < 0.001).

Conclusions and Relevance

In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality. Prospective trials are needed to examine this impact.


A multi-hospital study found that elderly patients treated with hydroxychloroquine had a 66-71% mortality rate ratio reduction compared to patients who weren't administered the drug, with no observed side effects.
 
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It says in the article that the study doesn't prove anything, that there has to be many more tests to see if Hydroxychloroquine is helpful or not.

20 patients isn't a big enough sample for anything.
 
It says in the article that the study doesn't prove anything, that there has to be many more tests to see if Hydroxychloroquine is helpful or not.

20 patients isn't a big enough sample for anything.

Yeah, but anything to protect and glorify Trump, amiright?
 
You guys sure don't know how to let go of a bad idea.

Do you have a problem with the study? If so, what is it? I mean, other than that you have a narrative to defend...
 
It says in the article that the study doesn't prove anything, that there has to be many more tests to see if Hydroxychloroquine is helpful or not.

20 patients isn't a big enough sample for anything.

This was an observational study of 2,541 patients... Carefully read the strengths and weakness part of the paper...

The strengths of this retrospective cohort study were the inclusion of consecutive patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 from a large healthcare system that included a representative population of socially vulnerable, ethnically diverse individuals. Statistical methods included efforts to adjust for possible confounders through multivariable Cox regression and via propensity score matching. However, the limitations of are important to consider. First, the precision of the results is impacted by immortal time bias, since several time-dependent covariates were not modelled in this manner. Fortunately, since the average time to receipt of treatment was only 1 day, this bias may be small; nonetheless, it favors treatment and should be taken into consideration. Second, there is an important potential for residual confounding because there are a number of prognostic factors (e.g. frailty, residence in long term care, or “do not resuscitate” orders), potentially important markers of disease severity (e.g. ferritin, C-reactive protein (Zeng et al., 2020), troponins (Vrsalovic and Vrsalovic Presecki, 2020), and D-dimer (Zhang et al., 2020), and co-administration of potentially beneficial therapies (e.g. anticoagulants (Paranjpe et al., 2020) that were not included in the analysis. Third, confounding by severity or indication (Kyriacou and Lewis, 2016) is likely. While there was a hospital treatment protocol in place, unmeasured clinical factors likely influenced the decision not to treat 16.1% of patients, in a center where 78% received treatment. These factors are often difficult to capture in an observational study. Were the decision to withhold treatment related to poor prognosis (e.g. palliative intent), it stands to reason that patients receiving neither hydroxychloroquine nor azithromycin would have the highest mortality. Indeed, the non-treated group had an overall mortality that was higher than the rate of admission to the ICU (26.4% vs. 15.2%), suggesting that many patients were not considered appropriate for critical care. Such being the case, their care may have differed in other substantive ways that was also associated with death (e.g. terminal illness or advanced directives limiting invasive care). In the hydroxychloroquine treatment groups, the inverse was true with mortality lower than the rate of admission to the ICU (16.1% vs. 26.9%). While a propensity score analysis might further account for some differences between treatment groups, this approach is still limited to the information available in the dataset. Fourth, the chronological time point during the course of the pandemic whereby patients were managed was not included in the study. As the Henry Ford Health System became more experienced in treating patients with COVID-19, survival may have improved, regardless of the use of specific therapies. Hospital-specific guidelines regarding COVID-19 screening eligibility, as well as the availability of COVID-19 testing may have also changed over time, introducing additional chronological bias. Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone (Horby et al., 2020) among individuals requiring supplemental oxygen or mechanical ventilation, potentially biasing this study’s results in favor of hydroxychloroquine.
 
It says in the article that the study doesn't prove anything, that there has to be many more tests to see if Hydroxychloroquine is helpful or not.

20 patients isn't a big enough sample for anything.

I see you don't read many scientific studies, do you? All scientific studies conclude, and rightly so, that more studies are needed.

It's so weird to see the same people screaming about the end of the world from COVID-19 are also the same people screaming about COVID-19 treatment studies. :roll:
 
This was an observational study of 2,541 patients... Carefully read the strengths and weakness part of the paper...

The strengths of this retrospective cohort study were the inclusion of consecutive patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 from a large healthcare system that included a representative population of socially vulnerable, ethnically diverse individuals. Statistical methods included efforts to adjust for possible confounders through multivariable Cox regression and via propensity score matching. However, the limitations of are important to consider. First, the precision of the results is impacted by immortal time bias, since several time-dependent covariates were not modelled in this manner. Fortunately, since the average time to receipt of treatment was only 1 day, this bias may be small; nonetheless, it favors treatment and should be taken into consideration. Second, there is an important potential for residual confounding because there are a number of prognostic factors (e.g. frailty, residence in long term care, or “do not resuscitate” orders), potentially important markers of disease severity (e.g. ferritin, C-reactive protein (Zeng et al., 2020), troponins (Vrsalovic and Vrsalovic Presecki, 2020), and D-dimer (Zhang et al., 2020), and co-administration of potentially beneficial therapies (e.g. anticoagulants (Paranjpe et al., 2020) that were not included in the analysis. Third, confounding by severity or indication (Kyriacou and Lewis, 2016) is likely. While there was a hospital treatment protocol in place, unmeasured clinical factors likely influenced the decision not to treat 16.1% of patients, in a center where 78% received treatment. These factors are often difficult to capture in an observational study. Were the decision to withhold treatment related to poor prognosis (e.g. palliative intent), it stands to reason that patients receiving neither hydroxychloroquine nor azithromycin would have the highest mortality. Indeed, the non-treated group had an overall mortality that was higher than the rate of admission to the ICU (26.4% vs. 15.2%), suggesting that many patients were not considered appropriate for critical care. Such being the case, their care may have differed in other substantive ways that was also associated with death (e.g. terminal illness or advanced directives limiting invasive care). In the hydroxychloroquine treatment groups, the inverse was true with mortality lower than the rate of admission to the ICU (16.1% vs. 26.9%). While a propensity score analysis might further account for some differences between treatment groups, this approach is still limited to the information available in the dataset. Fourth, the chronological time point during the course of the pandemic whereby patients were managed was not included in the study. As the Henry Ford Health System became more experienced in treating patients with COVID-19, survival may have improved, regardless of the use of specific therapies. Hospital-specific guidelines regarding COVID-19 screening eligibility, as well as the availability of COVID-19 testing may have also changed over time, introducing additional chronological bias. Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone (Horby et al., 2020) among individuals requiring supplemental oxygen or mechanical ventilation, potentially biasing this study’s results in favor of hydroxychloroquine.

WTF? This practically ruins the results.
 
You guys sure don't know how to let go of a bad idea.

Says the guy whose viewed of Hydroxychloroquine are still in line with a debunked Lancet study. :lamo
 
I see you don't read many scientific studies, do you? All scientific studies conclude, and rightly so, that more studies are needed.

It's so weird to see the same people screaming about the end of the world from COVID-19 are also the same people screaming about COVID-19 treatment studies. :roll:

What's your opinion on double the number of the treated group receiving dexamethasone?
 
Do you have a problem with the study? If so, what is it? I mean, other than that you have a narrative to defend...

The study ended in may from what I'm getting from the article, if it's so great how come I'm hearing nothing? We have over a million more cases since the end of may. So yeah, I do have a problem with the study. Was it paid for by trump?
 
Do you have a problem with the study? If so, what is it? I mean, other than that you have a narrative to defend...

Says the guy who started a thread to defend a narrative.
 
Do you have a problem with the study? If so, what is it? I mean, other than that you have a narrative to defend...

It is just 20 patients. The majority of small studies like that are not repeatable. You are cherry-picking.
 
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19




A multi-hospital study found that elderly patients treated with hydroxychloroquine had a 66-71% mortality rate ratio reduction compared to patients who weren't administered the drug, with no observed side effects.

hundreds of studies show it isn't, but this one study reported by ijid is the one who got it right.
 
It says in the article that the study doesn't prove anything, that there has to be many more tests to see if Hydroxychloroquine is helpful or not.

20 patients isn't a big enough sample for anything.

The last thing pharma wants is a cheap generic treatment. Why do you think they are balls to the wall for a vaccine? It is to make money. Or as a cynic might say, “Harvest lots of tax payer money while the check book is open!”

Obviously, the efficacy of these dueling treatments is more election year pogy bait.
 
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19

Seen any updates on injecting disinfectants?
 
WTF? This practically ruins the results.

Why? The steroid was administered as a concomitant treatment. Unless you have a study that shows doubling steroid dosage alone yields the same results you have no reason to discount the results.

The best you can do is say that the study shows that Hydroxychloroquine+steroid yields promising results.
 
hundreds of studies show it isn't, but this one study reported by ijid is the one who got it right.

No, "hundreds of studies" don't. :roll:
 
Says the guy who started a thread to defend a narrative.

I'm not defending a narrative, I am posting a study on a potential treatment for severely ill COVID-19 patients.

You guys NEED hydroxychloroquine to fail, I could go either way. I was willing to let the treatment go when the Lancet study was published, then that fell apart.. but all I see here is a bunch of anti-science from you folks who are quick to reject because you have a political ax to grind.
 
Seen any updates on injecting disinfectants?

Yep. Liberals are dying by the thousands, or billions in Biden-speak, as a result of doing exactly that. It's sad. I think I'm gonna cry.
 
The last thing pharma wants is a cheap generic treatment. Why do you think they are balls to the wall for a vaccine? It is to make money. Or as a cynic might say, “Harvest lots of tax payer money while the check book is open!”

Obviously, the efficacy of these dueling treatments is more election year pogy bait.

Why would the results in other countries be affected by our screwed up health care system?
 
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