Lt. Gov. Patrick dismisses Fauci’s coronavirus concerns: ‘I don’t need his advice’

Lt. Gov. Patrick dismisses Fauci’s coronavirus concerns: ‘I don’t need his advice’ - News - Austin American-Statesman - Austin, TX

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said he will no longer listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top infectious disease experts, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in Texas.

“Fauci said today that he’s concerned about states like Texas that skipped over certain things,” Patrick told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Tuesday. “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. We haven’t skipped over anything. The only thing I’m skipping over is listening to him.”

Hours before Patrick’s remarks on Fox, state health officials reported unprecedented numbers: nearly 7,000 new cases of COVID-19 and more than 6,000 hospitalizations.

Patrick was referring to Fauci’s remarks to federal lawmakers Tuesday, telling them he’s concerned about a “disturbing surge” of infections in Texas, Florida and Arizona.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, added that some states may have moved too quickly and skipped over checkpoints in the White House’s guide for reopening.

“He has been wrong every time on every issue,” Patrick said. “I don’t need his advice anymore.”

The White House guidelines for reopening include a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period or a downward trajectory in the same time period of positive tests as a percent of total tests.

Texas does not meet either guideline.
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What's wrong with Texas that they need to adopt this kind of combative, negative attitude?

JacksinPA said:

Lt. Gov. Patrick dismisses Fauci’s coronavirus concerns: ‘I don’t need his advice’ - News - Austin American-Statesman - Austin, TX

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said he will no longer listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top infectious disease experts, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in Texas.

“Fauci said today that he’s concerned about states like Texas that skipped over certain things,” Patrick told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Tuesday. “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. We haven’t skipped over anything. The only thing I’m skipping over is listening to him.”

Hours before Patrick’s remarks on Fox, state health officials reported unprecedented numbers: nearly 7,000 new cases of COVID-19 and more than 6,000 hospitalizations.

Patrick was referring to Fauci’s remarks to federal lawmakers Tuesday, telling them he’s concerned about a “disturbing surge” of infections in Texas, Florida and Arizona.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, added that some states may have moved too quickly and skipped over checkpoints in the White House’s guide for reopening.

“He has been wrong every time on every issue,” Patrick said. “I don’t need his advice anymore.”

The White House guidelines for reopening include a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period or a downward trajectory in the same time period of positive tests as a percent of total tests.

Texas does not meet either guideline.
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What's wrong with Texas that they need to adopt this kind of combative attitude?

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Well it is Texas...when have they not been confrontational? Of course the faithfull will praise his remarks and ignore the 7k+ new infections today...

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PeteEU said:

Well it is Texas...when have they not been confrontational? Of course the faithfull will praise his remarks and ignore the 7k+ new infections today...

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California had 8600 cases yesterday and they listen to Fauci.

PeteEU said:

Well it is Texas...when have they not been confrontational? Of course the faithfull will praise his remarks and ignore the 7k+ new infections today...

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In another article, they fact checked Patrick's claims. Texas did start to reopen earlier than Fauci had recommended. See Fact-checking Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick's attacks on Dr. Fauci - CNNPolitics

It was also among a majority of states reopening that did so before meeting all of the White House guidelines, according to an analysis from the New York Times.

The White House recommended states have a "downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period" before reopening. But Texas and 17 other states actually had an increase of daily average cases over the two weeks before they planned to open, according to the New York Times.

Fletch said:

California had 8600 cases yesterday and they listen to Fauci.

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And those 8600 would not have been 8600 if they had listened two weeks ago. If they became infected and were following all the recommendations given repeatedly by Tony Fauci, they would not have been so vulnerable. So, I adamantly disagree, they were not listening to Dr. Fauci.

The idiot Lt. Governor of Texas is going to cause many deaths. Their lives are on his head. The virus isn't killing people, ignorance is killing people. The virus isn't killing people unnecessarily, it's idiots like this man who has the power to either take steps to prevent the spread or take steps to make it worse. And he decided to make it worse by his own stupidity.

That's the down side to capitalism and democracy during a pandemic.

HumblePi said:

And those 8600 would not have been 8600 if they had listened two weeks ago. If they became infected and were following all the recommendations given repeatedly by Tony Fauci, they would not have been so vulnerable. So, I adamantly disagree, they were not listening to Dr. Fauci.

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If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

Fletch said:

If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

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At this stage we at least have comparative data on the various approaches where we can see what happens if people are cautious during reopening measures and when they're not. The question for this country is on which end of the spectrum we want to be on; though in actuality it's really about where each state wants to be on. We're past any sense of national action; we're more like "The Associated States of America" in how we're going about this.

Fletch said:

California had 8600 cases yesterday and they listen to Fauci.

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Interesting. A MAGA in with a BUTWHATABOUT at #3! Excellent work!

Fletch said:

California had 8600 cases yesterday and they listen to Fauci.

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Correct. They have dumb **** young and trumpistanis who’ve started a 2nd spike. Check Georgia and Louisiana and a few dozen others.

Fletch said:

If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

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Trump’s base is science illiterate.

Fletch said:

If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

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That's not true. I live in one of those states that was in the fire two months ago. There was no 'lock-down', not at all. We were free to go buy food, get medicine, shop at Walmart, get take out food, go to Olive Garden take at home, etc. In other words, we had a normal life to a great extent. People stayed out of work because their work shut down. By April the numbers started to be reflected in these precautions and they started coming down. Yesterday, my state had 92 new infections, today we had 152 so we're not letting our guard down. It had been planned to phase into part 2 and that has been pushed back. Our governor is practicing an over-abundance of caution and everyone is working very hard to maintain distance and everyone wears a mask, every single person in public wears a mask or they are not allowed to enter any public space.

That's what it takes to lower the infections and that's what we do.

Fletch said:

If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

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Brilliant. No wonder its such a clustermuck with that kind of idiotic rationale to not listen to one of the leading experts on the planet. Listening to him would guarantee that the lockdown would end sooner than its going to with the rudderless ship that is trump's america.

Meanwhile Americans are banned from travelling to the EU and daily cases exceed 45,000 while deaths will hit 130K by the 4th. What a massively great job trump has done and is doing.

Linc said:

Trump’s base is science illiterate.

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just science?

JacksinPA said:

Lt. Gov. Patrick dismisses Fauci’s coronavirus concerns: ‘I don’t need his advice’ - News - Austin American-Statesman - Austin, TX

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said he will no longer listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top infectious disease experts, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in Texas.

“Fauci said today that he’s concerned about states like Texas that skipped over certain things,” Patrick told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Tuesday. “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. We haven’t skipped over anything. The only thing I’m skipping over is listening to him.”

Hours before Patrick’s remarks on Fox, state health officials reported unprecedented numbers: nearly 7,000 new cases of COVID-19 and more than 6,000 hospitalizations.

Patrick was referring to Fauci’s remarks to federal lawmakers Tuesday, telling them he’s concerned about a “disturbing surge” of infections in Texas, Florida and Arizona.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, added that some states may have moved too quickly and skipped over checkpoints in the White House’s guide for reopening.

“He has been wrong every time on every issue,” Patrick said. “I don’t need his advice anymore.”

The White House guidelines for reopening include a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period or a downward trajectory in the same time period of positive tests as a percent of total tests.

Texas does not meet either guideline.
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What's wrong with Texas that they need to adopt this kind of combative, negative attitude?

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Texas is slowing reopening so what is your point. Fauci has been wrong at times. Even Cuomo doesn’t trust the models anymore.

Coronavirus: Texas and Florida pause reopening more business as cases surge

ElChupacabra said:

At this stage we at least have comparative data on the various approaches where we can see what happens if people are cautious during reopening measures and when they're not. The question for this country is on which end of the spectrum we want to be on; though in actuality it's really about where each state wants to be on. We're past any sense of national action; we're more like "The Associated States of America" in how we're going about this.

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Problem is many on the right dismiss science & facts

Rest of the world is looking at the US on C19 as a freaking disaster, and it will only go downhill & for quite some time

HumblePi said:

That's not true. I live in one of those states that was in the fire two months ago. There was no 'lock-down', not at all. We were free to go buy food, get medicine, shop at Walmart, get take out food, go to Olive Garden take at home, etc. In other words, we had a normal life to a great extent. People stayed out of work because their work shut down. By April the numbers started to be reflected in these precautions and they started coming down. Yesterday, my state had 92 new infections, today we had 152 so we're not letting our guard down. It had been planned to phase into part 2 and that has been pushed back. Our governor is practicing and over-abundance of caution and everyone is working very hard to maintain distance and everyone wears a mask, every single person in public wears a mask or they are not allowed to enter any public space.

That's what it takes to lower the infections and that's what we do.

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It seems so simple and straight forward. Its a civic duty to comply with temporary preemptive measures to protect fellow citizens. Its basic patriotism, no?

JANFU said:

Problem is many on the right dismiss facts

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LOL
Emotion rules with the left.

Jonsa said:

It seems so simple and straight forward. Its a civic duty to comply with temporary preemptive measures to protect fellow citizens. Its basic patriotism, no?

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It's basic patriotism yes, but it's even more than that, it's basic respect for the lives of other people.

Outlook said:

Texas is slowing reopening so what is your point. Fauci has been wrong at times. Even Cuomo doesn’t trust the models anymore.

Coronavirus: Texas and Florida pause reopening more business as cases surge

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how often has fauci been wrong and what was he wrong about? He's been on the money about what's happening right now.

And when did cuomo stop trusting the models to assist in his decision making? Seems to me he uses them extensively fully aware that they merely data and parameter driven scientific wild arsed guesses like every other predictive tool we humans have managed to devise.

JANFU said:

Problem is many on the right dismiss science & facts

Rest of the world is looking at the US on C19 as a freaking disaster, and it will only go downhill & for quite some time

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Yep. I was listening to an interview with Dr. Scott Harris (Alabama's health officer) who was very diplomatically expressing the same sentiment.

Fletch said:

California had 8600 cases yesterday and they listen to Fauci.

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Yes and the amount of new cases in relatively rural Republican areas is a large part of the problem. My GOP leaning family in Orange County are scared and we in Europe are worried.

And regardless pretty much all US states ignored Faucis recommendations, logic and expertise from other countries. They are now paying the price.

You open up only if you have the situation under control and the needed track and trace in place to combat flare ups. None of this was followed by California or Texas.

And of course not wearing masks and poor hand hygiene does not help. Here, every shop has handsanitizer at the door, masks are mandatory and employees constantly disinfect. Hell my local Burger King closes down for an hour from 4 to 5 to do a deep clean. At KFC one employee constantly goes around disinfecting tables and chairs, plus other surfaces that can be touched.

The last 14 days (more like a month) we have had 1 infection and that was a person working at a Red Cross centre 40 km, which got hit hard. As soon as there was one positive test, the track and trace teams went into gear. They quarantined the workers and residents immediately and tested them. Their families were tested and anyone who had been in contact. Over 500 were tracked and tested in a few days and are still being observed and 103 positives have been record. No new infections for 2 days so it looks like they got them all.... THATS how you deal with this crap.

But you are only able to deal with it if the overall situation is under control and it aint in most of the US and never has been. Only ones who seem to have some control are the states that got hit first, but that control sadly came at a high cost.

The partisan bickering and incompetence of the Trump administration has cost over 220k lives so far and it will get worse. I would not be surprised if we see 10k deaths a day in a couple of weeks. I hope the experience gained in New York, Spain, Italy, China and elsewhere on how to minimize deaths will keep down the amount, but I ain't too optimistic considering the absolutely idiotic nature of how America has tackled this pandemic.

But at least you are not as bad as the Brazilians...

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HumblePi said:

It's basic patriotism yes, but it's even more than that, it's basic respect for the lives of other people.

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If people understood that wearing a face mask is to protect others, they might have a different attitude. But most people, especially the young, only care about themselves, so being considerate of the lives of others is not on their agenda.

ElChupacabra said:

Yep. I was listening to an interview with Dr. Scott Harris (Alabama's health officer) who was very diplomatically expressing the same sentiment.

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Wonder when, number of deaths before many of the right clue in

Our parents who faced with polio outbreaks knew what to do, and did it

Where did all the damned stupid come from?

Jonsa said:

how often has fauci been wrong and what was he wrong about? He's been on the money about what's happening right now.

And when did cuomo stop trusting the models to assist in his decision making? Seems to me he uses them extensively fully aware that they merely data and parameter driven scientific wild arsed guesses like every other predictive tool we humans have managed to devise.

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Really, Fauci has been wrong often.
The models have been wrong often and in one of Cuomo’s briefings he said as much.

Fletch said:

If it were up to Fauci, the lockdown would never end. Even liberal California figured out you couldnt listen to Fauci.

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On April 21st., my state had 204 deaths on that day. Regulations mandating wearing a mask went into effect three days earlier, on April 20th. Yesterday, we had 2 deaths. How many deaths were recorded in your state yesterday?