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ReubenSherr said:
All you did was look up literal synonyms for the word "progressive" lol :lamo

Those were my personal opinions of "progressives" - not hiding it ;)
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Lying now? That's how pathetic your "argument" has gotten?

And yes, your ignorance shone thru clearly. Again...I didnt need any personal bias for my list...it's accurate.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
Again...I didnt need any personal bi:mrgreen:as for my list...it's accurate.
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Lol your list has nothing to do with progressives, in a political sense - it's simply a thesaurus for the word "progressive" :mrgreen:
 
ReubenSherr said:
Charity Fraud

White Collar Crimes Alleged In Private Use Of Charitable Funds

The Greatest White-Collar Crime in History – White Springs Journal
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Where did they say the white collar crime was 'liberal?' Let see some quotes.

And the one on the Clinton charity was an opinion piece from a conservative rag. What about The Donald's fraudulent 'university' and charity?


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
Lol your list has nothing to do with progressives, in a political sense - it's simply a thesaurus for the word "progressive" :mrgreen:
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And yet...there's a reason why the label exists. :shrug: Accuracy.

and uh, that's why we have dictionaries and thesauruses :doh


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
Where did they say the white collar crime was 'liberal?' Let see some quotes.
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United Way Affiliates Donate Millions to Planned Parenthood

"Case in point: Jacquelyn Allen-MacGregor, former vice president of finance for the United Way, an employee of 20 years who was caught stealing $2 million from the organization by writing checks to herself and forging officers' names. Investigators found that she was using the money to purchase expensive quarter horses. In June 2003, the court sentenced Allen-MacGregor to four years in prison and ordered her to pay $2.08 million in restitution."
 
Lursa said:
And yet...there's a reason why the label exists. :shrug: Accuracy.

and uh, that's why we have dictionaries and thesauruses :doh
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Lol Progressives named themselves "progressives" ;)

List a bunch of synonyms doesn't hold water, all you're doing is patting yourself on the back
 
ReubenSherr said:
United Way Affiliates Donate Millions to Planned Parenthood

"Case in point: Jacquelyn Allen-MacGregor, former vice president of finance for the United Way, an employee of 20 years who was caught stealing $2 million from the organization by writing checks to herself and forging officers' names. Investigators found that she was using the money to purchase expensive quarter horses. In June 2003, the court sentenced Allen-MacGregor to four years in prison and ordered her to pay $2.08 million in restitution."
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One criminal act? 17 yrs ago. One organization scamming people? Yeah...good people/companies do fall victim to scams.

I worked at the Gates Foundation for 2 yrs. The largest private charitable foundation in the world. Give out $4 billion in grants/yr with a $40 endowment. No fraud. And spare me any BS about BillG or the foundation...it needs to be sourced and the source needs to be not some conservative rag.

So there, one for one. You didnt really prove anything. THe Catholic Church pretends to be a huge charitable organization...yet most funds stay within the churches.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
Lol Progressives named themselves "progressives" ;)

List a bunch of synonyms doesn't hold water, all you're doing is patting yourself on the back
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Did they? I never use it and conservatives tend to spit it out like it's derogatory.

I didnt list any synonyms :doh I dont think you even understand the basics of this conversation, what synonyms and antonyms are.

Just get back to the discussion. You've clearly failed here. I was on topic, I was demonstrating why 'progressive' is a positive thing. Which someone had been using derogatorily.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
One criminal act? 17 yrs ago. One organization scamming people? Yeah...good people/companies do fall victim to scams.
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Fraud can scuttle nonprofits but the bigger and older ones fare better

10 notorious white-collar criminals who are still at large

"Dennis A. Bjorkland is a former lawyer who ran a charity—at least that’s what he told his clients facing drunken driving charges. According to the FBI, clients would give money to the bogus charity in the hope that the donation would lead the court to deal with them favorably.

In reality, the money allegedly went directly to Bjorkland, which led to a a fraud indictment by a federal grand jury in July 2010. The FBI said that he is likely to be in the company of his girlfriend, Rochelle Theroux, who is not a fugitive from law enforcement."
 
Lursa said:
I was on topic, I was demonstrating why 'progressive' is a positive thing.
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The actual word "progressive?" No one would doubt that.

You really had no political implications here? :lamo
 
ReubenSherr said:
Fraud can scuttle nonprofits but the bigger and older ones fare better

10 notorious white-collar criminals who are still at large

"Dennis A. Bjorkland is a former lawyer who ran a charity—at least that’s what he told his clients facing drunken driving charges. According to the FBI, clients would give money to the bogus charity in the hope that the donation would lead the court to deal with them favorably.

In reality, the money allegedly went directly to Bjorkland, which led to a a fraud indictment by a federal grand jury in July 2010. The FBI said that he is likely to be in the company of his girlfriend, Rochelle Theroux, who is not a fugitive from law enforcement."
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Who says they're 'liberals?' Or Democrats? Have you completely lost track of the conversation? :doh


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
The actual word "progressive?" No one would doubt that.
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Yes and used as a label because of its accurate descriptions.

You really had no political implications here? :lamo
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Where did I ever write that? Seriously, is there a reason you can no longer follow these conversations coherently?


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
You understand that many "charities" are liberal organizations that pocket huge amounts of money for their own selfish purposes... ;)

This is why liberals love giving to "charities" but many will not dream of handing a quarter to a homeless schizophrenic sleeping on the street
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Examples please.

If anyone is wise with their donations they check charity navigator and know that Salvation Army give more direct money to the public and has much less overhead money than the Red Cross.

Oh , by the way my husband and I usually give anonymously and do not deduct the amount we give on our income tax. Because a gift is suppose to be a gift from the heart. Not a gift to help us avoid taxes of which we pay more than most couples earn in year.
 
ReubenSherr said:
All you did was look up literal synonyms for the word "progressive" lol :lamo

Those were my personal opinions regarding "progressives" - not hiding it ;)
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That was clear. A list of mindless stereotyping based more on brainwashing and bias than reality.
 
Lursa said:
I always love when they try to make fun of labelling someone "progressive." The synonyms are all positive, about forward-thinking, open-minded, innovative, open to new ideas, etc etc etc.

And they seem unaware of the opposite of "progressive" but I guess they choose to wear these antonyms proudly:


Regressive
Antiquated
Traditional
Nostalgic
Old-fashioned
Reactionary
Conventional
Stick-in-the-mud
Behind the curve
Shabby
Conservatist
Unmodernised
Disordered
Inactive
Decreasing
Behind the times
Right-winger
Frumpish
Narrow
Static
Outdated
Intolerant
Narrowminded​

175 Progressive antonyms - Opposite of Progressive

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Indeed. And when you give them historical examples of what was the "conservative" position at one time - everything from the earth being flat and the sun going around it, to the excommunication of the scientific pioneers who pointed out otherwise using telescopes and mathematics - they still insist on defining themselves as conservative. The Inquisition was an ultimate example of what "conservatism" leads to - and they're OK with that.
 
ReubenSherr said:
???

The arena sat 19,000, the campaign thought the arena would be full

If you're arguing that there was a local ordinance mandating that the arena be only filled at 1/2 capacity, that changes things - do you have evidence of that?
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The arena with current health guidelines being observed should seat half that if the amount was based on seats being right next to each other. Which means stop selling tickets around 9500. Don't like it, find a different venue or innovate.

It doesn't need to be an actual ordinance in this case to stop selling tickets if it was part of the contract to use the venue.

They ended up with less people than that anyway.

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ReubenSherr said:
You understand that many "charities" are liberal organizations that pocket huge amounts of money for their own selfish purposes... ;)

This is why liberals love giving to "charities" but many will not dream of handing a quarter to a homeless schizophrenic sleeping on the street
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how is any of this different from 'conservatives'?
 
roguenuke said:
The arena with current health guidelines being observed should seat half that if the amount was based on seats being right next to each other. Which means stop selling tickets around 9500.
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If you're talking about federal health guidelines, Trump is the President, he gets the final say regarding what's safe and what's not - remember, everyone's temperature was taken on the way in

If you're talking about state/local health guidelines, that's a completely different story, and the Trump campaign was stepping on their toes - If there were specific local and/or state guidelines requiring spaced out seating in arenas, and the Trump campaign violated them, I'll definitely change my position on this issue
 
ReubenSherr said:
Fraud can scuttle nonprofits but the bigger and older ones fare better

10 notorious white-collar criminals who are still at large

"Dennis A. Bjorkland is a former lawyer who ran a charity—at least that’s what he told his clients facing drunken driving charges. According to the FBI, clients would give money to the bogus charity in the hope that the donation would lead the court to deal with them favorably.

In reality, the money allegedly went directly to Bjorkland, which led to a a fraud indictment by a federal grand jury in July 2010. The FBI said that he is likely to be in the company of his girlfriend, Rochelle Theroux, who is not a fugitive from law enforcement."
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maybe you can research the problems of the tRump foundation and get back with us about what you found
 
ReubenSherr said:
If you're talking about federal health guidelines, Trump is the President, he gets the final say regarding what's safe and what's not - remember, everyone's temperature was taken on the way in

If you're talking about state/local health guidelines, that's a completely different story, and the Trump campaign was stepping on their toes - If there were specific local and/or state guidelines requiring spaced out seating in arenas, and the Trump campaign violated them, I'll definitely change my position on this issue
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The articles claimed the latter. There were guidelines & policies in place, which the campaign signed off on, but as guidelines and not laws, 'violation' is ambiguous.

OTOH, it was still irresponsibly dangerous and done for narcissistic reasons.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
The articles claimed the latter. There were guidelines & policies in place, which the campaign signed off on, but as guidelines and not laws, 'violation' is ambiguous.
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If the local government were filing a complaint against the Trump administration for knowlingly violating health guidelines, for me, it would turn the issue around - I haven't heard anything about this, though
 
ReubenSherr said:
If the local government were filing a complaint against the Trump administration for knowlingly violating health guidelines, for me, it would turn the issue around - I haven't heard anything about this, though
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Yeah...why would they do that? DId you miss the part where I wrote that guidelines arent necessarily laws?

And what's the point of doing it *after the fact,* challenging POTUS? :roll: He got plenty of criticism anyway, the media really exposed it...why cause their community problems if The Donald retaliated? He's a very petty person.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
They took everyone's temperature, though, which, I think, is more important than spacing everyone out
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Did you read of them turning anyone away because of an elevated temperature?

(And a person can be infected and not yet have a temperature) The measures are various and complement each other. It's cumulative.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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