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Washington Post: Trump campaign had social distancing stickers removed before Tulsa rally

SkyFox76 said:
Seriously? You don't think Trump voters can comprehend the sentence "just a reminder the stickers on the seats are nothing more than a suggestion"? I've been to a lot of events where it was open seating and we all managed to get seated without any chaos.
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19,000 people in an arena, including kids? With constant announcements on the loudspeaker telling 19,000 hyped-up Trumpsters to ignore signs indicating that it was a health hazard to sit in those seats? I think it would've been chaotic, that would've become a Biden talking point
 
ReubenSherr said:
No, he wanted his team to remove the stickers so people wouldn't get hurt trying to fight over seats - he thought the stadium would be at full capacity

Do you understand that you accused him of lying, you even put up a quote indicating a campaign staffer said that they couldn't control where people sat, and that this sticker fiasco proved that Trump was caught in a lie?

You completely fabricated an accusation that the President was lying to the American people.

How can you feel justified accusing him of lying? You basically just slandered him in a post on purpose.
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You still haven't explained how they thought it would be full capacity and if it was through legitimate requests where did all those people go?
 
minnie616 said:
2 to 3 feet apart is better than right next to each other.

If a person is unable to maintain social distance inside the CDC recommendation is to wear a Mask.
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Wayne Jr said:
It's really not, tho. If you're in range of someone's spit then you're in range of someones spit.
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If they are wearing a mask then the spit gets on their mask and not on me.
 
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SkyFox76 said:
You still haven't explained how they thought it would be full capacity and if it was through legitimate requests where did all those people go?
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They were preparing for outdoor overflow, that proves the campaign staff thought the indoor arena would be at fully capacity

All that matters is that they perceived the arena was going to be full, and that's why they were removing the stickers, not to be douches as some sort of an anti-PC stunt, which is what the media is implying
 
ReubenSherr said:
No, he wanted his team to remove the stickers so people wouldn't get hurt trying to fight over seats - he thought the stadium would be at full capacity

Do you understand that you accused him of lying, you even put up a quote indicating a campaign staffer said that they couldn't control where people sat, and that this sticker fiasco proved that Trump was caught in a lie?

You completely fabricated an accusation that the President was lying to the American people.

How can you feel justified accusing him of lying? You basically just slandered him in a post on purpose.
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I have no doubt you truly believe that's the reason and that Trump didn't lie about this. Good luck, sir.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
So test 329M Americans before making a decision? Interesting logic you offer.
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I thought we were talking about Trump's rally. There were not 329M people at Trump's rally.

If you want to press charges against the people at Trump's rally, like VD carriers who don't disclose their condition to partners, then you have to test them and tell them the test results before the rally, in order for the charges to stick.

Because that's how it works with VD cases
 
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ReubenSherr said:
19,000 people in an arena, including kids? With constant announcements on the loudspeaker telling 19,000 hyped-up Trumpsters to ignore signs indicating that it was a health hazard to sit in those seats? I think it would've been chaotic
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You seemed to ignore my saying they could inform every single person as they had their temps taken. Word of mouth travels fast as well. But then again, they were going into a crowded arena and not bothering with masks that were handed to them, so yeah maybe they aren't smart enough to realize a simple sentence. He does say he loves the poorly educated. It would appear that's all he has left. :shrug:
 
Wayne Jr said:
I thought we were talking about Trump's rally. There were not 329M at Trump's rally.
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Sorry for the confusion. I thought you were talking about testing in general, not the few thousand who showed up at Trump's rally.
 
Wayne Jr said:
The rain would be the lying. The storm is politics. The only way to get power over broad groups of people, especially when those groups hate each other, is to lie.

Don't act so surprised next time you hear of an administration lying. There's no such thing as an honest politician.
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Strongly disagreed and, yes, I do have both a degree and career experience in Behavior Modification. Lying is the lowest form of domination. Good Leadership is a much better form, but I'm sure most can agree that both Trump and Biden are crappy leaders.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Strongly disagreed and, yes, I do have both a degree and career experience in Behavior Modification. Lying is the lowest form of domination. Good Leadership is a much better form, but I'm sure most can agree that both Trump and Biden are crappy leaders.
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Personal credentials mean nothing when your real ID cannot be verified, FYI.
 
ReubenSherr said:
They were preparing for outdoor overflow, that proves the campaign staff thought the indoor arena would be at fully capacity

All that matters is that they perceived the arena was going to be full, and that's why they were removing the stickers, not to be douches as some sort of an anti-PC stunt, which is what the media is implying
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Why aren't you answering the question?

Brad Parscale
@parscale
Over 1M ticket requests for the @realDonaldTrump #MAGA Rally in Tulsa on Saturday.
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Where did over 900,000 people go?
 
minnie616 said:
If they are wearing a mask then the spit gets on their mask and not on me.
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If they're wearing masks then removing the stickers doesn't matter.
 
SkyFox76 said:
You seemed to ignore my saying they could inform every single person as they had their temps taken. Word of mouth travels fast as well.
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Just to sum up my point, here lol, I think the situation you're describing would have been damaging to his campaign to the point where it could've had seriously impacted the election results

This situation is just frivolous left-wing nonsense, it's not going to affect anyone's vote except people who are already anti-Trump at the core
 
Wayne Jr said:
Problem is, there's no one better to replace him with.
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A used condom would be better than 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs malignant narcissist scumbag.

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year2late said:
More people more fire hazard. More risk. The fire marshal should put strict limits on how many may occupy....and the public health dept. seems to have even greater concerns (which Trump camp did not give a crap about hence the removal of social distancing stickers).
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this is the very reason the RNC convention moved out of charlotte

tRump was made aware that social distancing would be required - and enforced

insisting he had always appeared before a full house, without the attendees wearing masks, tRump made the executive decision to move his celebration to jacksonville

note: tulsa employees placed the stickers on the seats. tRump campaign staff removed them
 
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Ginger Ale said:
I'm starting to think Trump doesn't care for TX that much. They just denied voting by mail. It seems he's doing any and all that he can to make sure people have to be exposed to this virus. :roll: The mystery is why? Why is he encouraging rallies with no PPE. In-person voting. Pence just had a huge choir performing at an event, not a mask on them. Why?

It's so weird. It's so intentional. I'm baffled, honestly. It's as if Trump and Pence have had a vaccine for this and as long as they're good to go and safe it doesn't matter. It's worth the price. What a scary government we have.
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this is his brand

other people play by the rules
 
ReubenSherr said:
They were preparing for outdoor overflow, that proves the campaign staff thought the indoor arena would be at fully capacity

All that matters is that they perceived the arena was going to be full, and that's why they were removing the stickers, not to be douches as some sort of an anti-PC stunt, which is what the media is implying
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OR

it proves staff anticipated a need for additional space recognizing the social distancing expectations would limit the number of attendees in the main hall
 
Chomsky said:
Can't do much about it in Republican controlled areas, besides going to the voting box!

I just started another thread in 'Political Discussion' concerning Trump's jeopardizing the GOP Senate control. Trump is paying the price for actions like these, and unless he turns it around will likely pay the price of losing the big prize in November.

DP
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I certainly hope he does take down the Republican Senate. They refused to hold him accountable. They refused to even be senators and obey their own oaths to protect the constitution and they did as part of a Faustian bargain. They wanted those federal judgeships, and that a tax cut and they wanted the deplorables to vote for them, right alongside this President. They must not be allowed to distance themselves, or beg for forgiveness after his power over the party faithful ebbs. If they enabled him for the last three years, they should go down with him.

This is the Trump Republican party, and it will stay the Trump Republican party, whether he is still at the helm or not, because the kind of people who supported him, and coddled him and promoted him are still the same people that they were in 2015. Cowards, sycophants, and inherently anti-American.
 
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btthegreat said:
I certainly hope he does take down the Republican Senate. They refused to hold him accountable. They refused to even be senators and obey their own oaths to protect the constitution and they did as part of a Faustian bargain. They wanted those federal judgeships, and that a tax cut and they wanted the deplorables to vote for them, right alongside this President. They must not be allowed to distance themselves, or beg for forgiveness after his power over the party faithful ebbs. If they enabled him for the last three years, they should go down with him.
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my only problem with your expectation is that schmuck schumer might become senate majority leader

that prospect is almost enough to pull for the other side
 
ReubenSherr said:
Just to sum up my point, here lol, I think the situation you're describing would have been damaging to his campaign to the point where it could've had seriously impacted the election results

This situation is just frivolous left-wing nonsense, it's not going to affect anyone's vote except people who are already anti-Trump at the core
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I didn't just wake up one morning and say hey! I'm no longer going to support the guy I rallied for and then voted for. It was day after day trying to keep a straight face while doing exactly what you're doing. Excusing stupid behavior, stupid comments, stupid tweets and showing he really didn't care who he was walking over. Things like the govt shut down, doing things that have severely impacted our farmers. All the bragging about what he's accomplishing, but if people actually look, no he's not. So I can promise you that there are people who are on the edge right now and they might very well already think he was stupid to have the rally in the first place because it was a health risk, but then to learn the arena tried to remind people to self distance and the campaign said nope, screw that, it might be trivial to you, but for them it was the last straw.
 
Wayne Jr said:
If they're wearing masks then removing the stickers doesn't matter.
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The stickers were put there because it was the policy of the arena.

The stickers may have been there and were supposed to remain there trough phase 3 of The city of Tulsa’s reopening guidelines.

From:
Recovery FAQ
Read the Amended Civil Emergency Order - June 8, 2020

Should we continue social distancing?
Yes, individuals should continue social distancing per the CDC guidelines. Businesses should observe proper CDC-recommended social distancing protocols.

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Can I host an event June 1?
Yes, you can host events under OURS Phase 3 Reopening. Please practice all CDC-recommended guidelines for social distancing.
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City of Tulsa

ReubenSherr said:
They were preparing for outdoor overflow, that proves the campaign staff thought the indoor arena would be at fully capacity

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justabubba said:
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it proves staff anticipated a need for additional space recognizing the social distancing expectations would limit the number of attendees in the main hall
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I agree.
 
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minnie616 said:
The stickers were put there because it was the policy of the arena.

The stickers may have been there and were supposed to remain there trough phase 3 of The city of Tulsa’s reopening guidelines.
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The city was wrong to shut down in the first place, so again, removing the stickers doesn't matter. Testing matters.

With everything going on in the world and all of the legitimate complaints we could leverage against Trump, you want to bitch about stickers at a rally you didn't even attended. This is why I've lost faith with the American population.
 
Ginger Ale said:
I'm starting to think Trump doesn't care for TX that much. They just denied voting by mail. It seems he's doing any and all that he can to make sure people have to be exposed to this virus. :roll: The mystery is why? Why is he encouraging rallies with no PPE. In-person voting. Pence just had a huge choir performing at an event, not a mask on them. Why?

It's so weird. It's so intentional. I'm baffled, honestly. It's as if Trump and Pence have had a vaccine for this and as long as they're good to go and safe it doesn't matter. It's worth the price. What a scary government we have.
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I think it's a result of their denial. They want to "turn the corner" so to speak. They are trying to convince everyone that the virus is on the way out and it never was all that bad anyway. They think that wearing masks and social distancing and all the rest runs counter to that message. They also think that getting the economy back up and running is the one thing that can save Trump's re-election bid. The only problem is that the virus will have the last word. Not Trump.
 
SkyFox76 said:
Seriously? You don't think Trump voters can comprehend the sentence "just a reminder the stickers on the seats are nothing more than a suggestion"? I've been to a lot of events where it was open seating and we all managed to get seated without any chaos.
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Maybe he thinks Trump supporters are all like Trump.:mrgreen:
 
Wayne Jr said:
The city was wrong to shut down in the first place, so again, removing the stickers doesn't matter. Testing matters.

With everything going on in the world and all of the legitimate complaints we could leverage against Trump, you want to bitch about stickers at a rally you didn't even attended. This is why I've lost faith with the American population.
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The city has occupancy codes and may lower the numbers Of persons allowed for health or safety in any building in their jurisdiction.
 
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