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Holy Crap! Huge Jump in COVID Cases Today

calamity said:
There is a reason COVID is soaring in the Red States. Republicans suck at governing.
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Yes, that is true people are exercising their freedom of choice that you radicals want to take away. You are going to find that majority at the polls in November especially in TX, haven't found a liberal yet who can explain why they would take the risk to vote for Biden in November with the economic results Trump has generated and the taking away of freedoms by the left that the Constitution provides, ever hear of due process?
 
Conservative said:
Yes, that is true people are exercising their freedom of choice that you radicals want to take away. You are going to find that majority at the polls in November especially in TX, haven't found a liberal yet who can explain why they would take the risk to vote for Biden in November with the economic results Trump has generated and the taking away of freedoms by the left that the Constitution provides, ever hear of due process?
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Over a hundred thousand dead.

Millions of jobs lost due to virus mismanagement.

Institutions gutted to protect him and his cronies.

Hundreds of billions spent with no oversight.

Using military force against citizens for a photo op with a bible.

Disregard for the lives of even his followers by packing them into venues with no masks or social distance requirements.

And those are just a few things.

He’s a bad joke that will hopefully end soon.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Over a hundred thousand dead.

Millions of jobs lost due to virus mismanagement.

Institutions gutted to protect him and his cronies.

Hundreds of billions spent with no oversight.

Using military force against citizens for a photo op with a bible.

Disregard for the lives of even his followers by packing them into venues with no masks or social distance requirements.

And those are just a few things.

He’s a bad joke that will hopefully end soon.
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And since you don't have a vote in this country I cannot taken anything you say seriously especially someone from Canada that doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country

7/5/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2932047 132007 4.5%

New York 397131 32188 8.1%

California 260155 6331 2.4%

New Jersey 173402 15211 8.8%

Texas 195239 2637 1.4%

Florida 200111 3731 1.9%

Illinois 147251 7020 4.8%

Massachusetts 109974 8183 7.4%

Canada 105535 8684 8.2%

Great Britain 285416 44220 15.5%

WORLD 11419529 533780 4.7%
China 83534 4634 5.5%
Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
 
Jetboogieman said:
Over a hundred thousand dead.

Millions of jobs lost due to virus mismanagement.

Institutions gutted to protect him and his cronies.

Hundreds of billions spent with no oversight.

Using military force against citizens for a photo op with a bible.

Disregard for the lives of even his followers by packing them into venues with no masks or social distance requirements.

And those are just a few things.

He’s a bad joke that will hopefully end soon.
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conservative is spinning desperately as he watches his hoped-for putsch fizzle. I don't think Texas will turn this election cycle, but I doubt it stays red much longer with the combination of Trump-Pence-Abbot-Patrick incompetency, the vacuity of Republican leadership is laid bare. Texans aren't that stupid.
 
NWRatCon said:
conservative is spinning desperately as he watches his hoped-for putsch fizzle. I don't think Texas will turn this election cycle, but I doubt it stays red much longer with the combination of Trump-Pence-Abbot-Patrick incompetency, the vacuity of Republican leadership is laid bare. Texans aren't that stupid.
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Right, scared to death that Biden won't get more votes than the third party candidate in November. You see, that liberal utopia you want doesn't exist, but liberal dependence does.

You are going to find that the American people are sick and tired of being told what they cannot and cannot do when it comes to personal responsibility issues. I am in the at risk category over 65 and don't need you, any President, any bureaucrat to tell me what to do in public. I wear a mask, practice social distancing and will let the younger people's immune system destroy the virus

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Your loyalty to liberalism speaks volumes about people like you and their desire for the nanny state and destruction of our private sector as well and creating a totalitarian country controlled by the elites
 
Conservative said:
And since you don't have a vote in this country I cannot taken anything you say seriously especially someone from Canada that doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country

7/5/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2932047 132007 4.5%

New York 397131 32188 8.1%

California 260155 6331 2.4%

New Jersey 173402 15211 8.8%

Texas 195239 2637 1.4%

Florida 200111 3731 1.9%

Illinois 147251 7020 4.8%

Massachusetts 109974 8183 7.4%

Canada 105535 8684 8.2%

Great Britain 285416 44220 15.5%

WORLD 11419529 533780 4.7%
China 83534 4634 5.5%
Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
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You say this often, so what freedoms do Canadians not have?

Also, why are you ignoring everything but mortality and recovery rates when there is so much more to this than just those two metrics?
 
ElChupacabra said:
You say this often, so what freedoms do Canadians not have?

Also, why are you ignoring everything but mortality and recovery rates when there is so much more to this than just those two metrics?
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a) Doesn't follow his partisan preference, b) lack of intellectual capacity. Numbers are HARD... reality is so inconvenient.
 
NWRatCon said:
a) Doesn't follow his partisan preference, b) lack of intellectual capacity. Numbers are HARD...
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I don't know about you, but I think most consider a variety of factors when assessing risk other than just mortality rates. There's a lot of gray in between.
 
NWRatCon said:
a) Doesn't follow his partisan preference, b) lack of intellectual capacity. Numbers are HARD...
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No it follows logic, common sense, and official data, Numbers are dropping as are the death rates allowing immune systems to work. You keep focusing on infection increases and I will keep focusing on the positive drop in infection rates per population and death rates to infection

You keep focusing on telling others what to do with their personal responsibility issues and I will keep watching liberals losing national elections. Why is it people like you think you know what is best for everyone else? You don't want the disease, wear a mask, practice social distancing, quarantine yourself and nothing will happen to you regardless of what other people do
 
ElChupacabra said:
You say this often, so what freedoms do Canadians not have?

Also, why are you ignoring everything but mortality and recovery rates when there is so much more to this than just those two metrics?
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Choice on healthcare!!

It depends whether you think you should have the freedom not to have health insurance, to own a gun, to avoid joining a union if you think they're not representing your own personal interests, and to not be required to have a civil service know more than one language. If you believe that, then the U.S. offers more personal freedom.
 
Conservative said:
And since you don't have a vote in this country I cannot taken anything you say seriously especially someone from Canada that doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country
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Your 'Ameri-gance' (American arrogance)only belies the fact that you know very little about Canada's Charter. The only intention you have making statements such as this, is attempting to make Canadians wallow in feelings of inferiority. In many ways, the Charter of Canada is more equal for all people, not only for some.
 
HumblePi said:
Your 'Ameri-gance' (American arrogance)only belies the fact that you know very little about Canada's Charter. The only intention you have making statements such as this, is attempting to make Canadians wallow in feelings of inferiority. In many ways, the Charter of Canada is more equal for all people, not only for some.
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The only intention I have is to protect the freedoms in this country that the Constitution gives me and my family on personal responsibility issues. You have the freedom to leave this country any time you want

Fact remains, the ones inferior are people like you who need the nanny state to protect you for poor personal choices you make. I accept them and the consequences never expecting you to pay for my mistakes
 
ElChupacabra said:
I don't know about you, but I think most consider a variety of factors when assessing risk other than just mortality rates. There's a lot of gray in between.
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I do tend to look at a lot of factors. I obsess over them - trends, interplay of actions, processes, policy, etc. I even track them on my own spreadsheets. I live with a severely compromised spouse, and I've had the experience of spending months in hospitals caring for loved ones. I was an EMT, too, so I follow the science.
 
Conservative said:
Choice on healthcare!!

It depends whether you think you should have the freedom not to have health insurance, to own a gun, to avoid joining a union if you think they're not representing your own personal interests, and to not be required to have a civil service know more than one language. If you believe that, then the U.S. offers more personal freedom.
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Sure, but the trade off is millions without healthcare and the negative impacts of that. Canadians do have the right to own a gun, Canadians do have the option to not join unions, and you don't have to know two languages as a requirement.
 
NWRatCon said:
I do tend to look at a lot of factors. I obsess over them - trends, interplay of actions, processes, policy, etc. I even track them on my own spreadsheets. I live with a severely compromised spouse, and I've had the experience of spending months in hospitals caring for loved ones. I was an EMT, too, so I follow the science.
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Sorry to hear your spouse is high risk; I would do the same in that situation.
 
Conservative said:
The only intention I have is to protect the freedoms in this country that the Constitution gives me and my family on personal responsibility issues. You have the freedom to leave this country any time you want

Fact remains, the ones inferior are people like you who need the nanny state to protect you for poor personal choices you make. I accept them and the consequences never expecting you to pay for my mistakes
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And you have every right to lie about the Charter of Canada, and you take full advantage of that right constantly.
 
ElChupacabra said:
Sure, but the trade off is millions without healthcare and the negative impacts of that. Canadians do have the right to own a gun, Canadians do have the option to not join unions, and you don't have to know two languages as a requirement.
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Yep, personal choice is a bitch isn't it? Why how does someone else's personal choice affect you?
 
HumblePi said:
And you have every right to lie about the Charter of Canada, and you take full advantage of that right constantly.
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Where have I lied about Canada's charter, couldn't give a damn about it, too bad you don't have the same attitude about what goes on in this country. Change you what you can control, stop trying to change what you can't and be smart enough to know the difference
 
Conservative said:
Where have I lied about Canada's charter, couldn't give a damn about it, too bad you don't have the same attitude about what goes on in this country. Change you what you can control, stop trying to change what you can't and be smart enough to know the difference
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Conservative said:
And since you don't have a vote in this country I cannot taken anything you say seriously especially someone from Canada that doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country
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Yes you did, you lied. You don't have a clue about Canada's charter, perhaps only that it's somehow 'connected to the Monarchy'. You have no basis to claim that 'Canada doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country". That's a lie, because you just simply do not have any proof or substantiation of that boast.
 
HumblePi said:
Yes you did, you lied. You don't have a clue about Canada's charter, perhaps only that it's somehow 'connected to the Monarchy'. You have no basis to claim that 'Canada doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country". That's a lie, because you just simply do not have any proof or substantiation of that boast.
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And I posted the information from Canada, has nothing to do with your charter!! You tell me what I have wrong in the statement where I listed the choice differences? What is your choice in healthcare?

You know what is really sad when someone makes a post that may or may not be accurate if you don't support it, that is a lie not a mistake. What the hell is wrong with you people? So sad that there is such hatred and such ignorance
 
HumblePi said:
Yes you did, you lied. You don't have a clue about Canada's charter, perhaps only that it's somehow 'connected to the Monarchy'. You have no basis to claim that 'Canada doesn't have the freedoms and personal choices we have in this country". That's a lie, because you just simply do not have any proof or substantiation of that boast.
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I've heard both Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity say the exact same thing.
 
CaughtInThe said:
I've heard both Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity say the exact same thing.
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And yet you haven't posted any link proving that. What you continue to do is misrepresent what a lie actually is vs. a mistake, learn the difference.

You are in a debate forum, I don't see any attempt from you to debate issues just bait, troll and name call
 
ElChupacabra said:
You say this often, so what freedoms do Canadians not have?
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That's easy.

Canadians (unlike Americans) do NOT have the freedom to vote ONLY for "The MORE Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DB[in the United States of America]A ‘The Republican Party’)" or "The MORE Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party (DB[in the United States of America]A ‘The Republican Party’)" if they want any reasonable chance of electing someone.

Canadians (unlike Americans) do NOT have the freedom to have their government prohibit them from leaving the country of which they are a citizen.

Canadians (unlike Americans) do NOT have the freedom to have their government prohibit them from entering the country of which they are a citizen.

Canadians (unlike Americans) do NOT have the freedom for their courts to act against them WITHOUT any "presumption of innocence".

Canadians (unlike Americans) do NOT have the freedom to have some unscrupulous opportunist desert one political party and step into the highest position in the government of the country.
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ElChupacabra said:
Also, why are you ignoring everything but mortality and recovery rates when there is so much more to this than just those two metrics?
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Again, that's easy - any more than two factors is too complex.

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HumblePi said:
Your 'Ameri-gance' (American arrogance)only belies the fact that you know very little about Canada's Charter. The only intention you have making statements such as this, is attempting to make Canadians wallow in feelings of inferiority. In many ways, the Charter of Canada is more equal for all people, not only for some.
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Mind you, to be fair, you do have to admit that seeing how the Americans got it wrong, did help with the drafting of Canada's "Charter of Rights & Freedoms".
 
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