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Holy Crap! Huge Jump in COVID Cases Today

CharloTexan said:
I was in a burger joint on the northern outskirts of Houston this afternoon (19th), waiting 25 minutes for a double jalapeno burger and fries. The establishment was 100% full (every table occupied). Only one person in the entire establishment, including the staff (the manager/owner was present) and all the patrons had a mask on, only one! Me.
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There just won't be enough minders, thought police, and Covid cops coming out to businesses to enforce guidelines.
You know what your governor said, right?



Gov. Greg Abbott is limiting enforcement of COVID-19 orders, but many cities already took a lax approach

Texas cities and counties have dramatically different interpretations of the state’s COVID-19 emergency orders. Complaint data from a dozen cities shows that disparate approaches to enforcement, particularly among businesses, have been incredibly common.

by Sally Beauvais, Lexi Churchill, Kiah Collier, Vianna Davila and Ren Larson, The Texas Tribune and ProPublica May 14, 20201 PM

’I will not allow it to happen’ Gov. Abbott modifies COVID executive order to forbid jailing as punishment of order violation
 
Wayne Jr said:
Please make a video of you attempting to eat said double jalapeno burger and fries while wearing a mask in accordance with CDC guidelines, and post that video here.
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That video could get very messy.
 
cabse5 said:
The fed knows how to build makeshift hospitals in no time. Maybe Arizona can use the same faculties NY refused to use?
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The fed does not build the makeshift hospitals for Covid patients.

We two in Michigan.

Both were used but thankfully did not reach near capacity.

One was a 900 bed in the old Cobo Hall exibit center in Detroit.

Another was in a different county about 30 miles north of Detroit in another exit center. It had 250 beds. So no , Michigan’s makeshift hospitals cannot just be moved to another state.
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
Did you know that the "The only reason why we have so many cases is because we do so much testing." theory is a load of crap?

  • There are countries with LOWER rates of testing and HIGHER rates of infection.
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  • There are countries with LOWER rates of testing and LOWER rates of infection.
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  • There are countries with HIGHER rates of testing and HIGHER rates of infection.
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  • There are countries with HIGHER rates of testing and LOWER rates of infection.


But, of course, actually looking at the facts sometimes makes it difficult to regurgitate "the party line" without giggling - doesn't it?
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You mean the "party line" that what we have lacked is more testing? Your chart cuts both ways.
 
I think with the demonstrators, being outdoors helped not spread it much and many of them were wearing masks.
 
Thursday's 150,000 new cases is the highest so far in a single day and nearly half of them are in the Americas, the WHO said.
 
What if...? said:
I'm trying to figure out how 120,000 deaths is less than 80,000 deaths.

I mean, I know y'all have your own recent history, but your own math as well?

Math doesn't gaslight very well, but it's all ya got, I guess.
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Well just look at the numbers (I've added a bit of emphasis to assist you. They are 120,000 and 80,000.

Evrewunknoz that 1 is LESS than 8.

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As a young clergy friend told me years ago, which applies to Trumpers, "People are relentlessly stupid."
 
cabse5 said:
I've predicted, at least, 200,000 Americans will die from Covid many times on DP as early as 2 month ago. Social distancing will be the reason for the excess deaths.
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IF the current trends continue unchanged (and I don't think that they will), THEN the US death toll from COVID-19 would reach 200,000 in the middle of October, 2020.

However, the trends of the present trends indicate that that date will continue to recede into the future at an ever increasing rate (ASSUMING that the trends of the present trends remain unchanged).
 
Superfly said:
So worried for Tulsa tomorrow. I knew that the numbers would skyrocket with all the protesting.
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It would be a shame if MAGA morons who refuse to social distance or wear masks got infected.
 
What if...? said:
I'm trying to figure out how 120,000 deaths is less than 80,000 deaths.

I mean, I know y'all have your own recent history, but your own math as well?

Math doesn't gaslight very well, but it's all ya got, I guess.
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C19 deaths vastly over reported.

(The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone's life.

Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, said the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths, despite other nations doing the opposite.

"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem," she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. "Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.)
 
maxparrish said:
You mean the "party line" that what we have lacked is more testing? Your chart cuts both ways.
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Indeed it does. Those who are confident that the level of testing has something to do with the level of infection (on both sides of the argument) have nothing to actually back up their position - except "emotion driven desires to avoid discussing reality".
 
Conservative said:
6/20/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 2266693 120899 5.3%

New York 387272 24710 6.4%

New Jersey 168496 12835 7.6%

Massachusetts 106650 7800 7.3%

Illinois 135639 6718 5.0%

California 165416 5360 3.2%

Texas 103305 2140 2.1%

Canada 100959 8410 8.3%


Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
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You aren’t accounting for political under counting of deaths. In Florida, the number of pneumonia deaths is 4X what it was in previous periods in previous years. That gets counted as pneumonia not COVID-19.
 
Aberro said:
C19 deaths vastly over reported.

(The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone's life.

Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, said the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths, despite other nations doing the opposite.

"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem," she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. "Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.)
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Quite right, there hasn't been a single case of anyone whose heart was still beating and/or who was still breathing dying from COVID-19 and that proves that all of those so-called "COVID-19 deaths" were actually deaths due to either heart failure or respiratory insufficiency.

Not only that, but those jurisdictions who are claiming that their COVID-19 deaths are due to heart, lung, or kidney failure are deliberately under reporting their COVID-19 deaths in order to make President Trump (and the United States of America) look bad while those that are honestly reporting them as deaths due to heart, lung, or kidney failure are telling **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

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calamity said:
Some reports say sitting downwind of an A/C vent in crowded places like a restaurant yields high infection rates. One table full of people attending a shindig in a Jacksonville restaurant tested positive. 15 people I think.
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This is what I was getting at.

The highest infection rates seem to come from places where people are congregated indoors. Outdoors doesn't seem to be nearly as big of an issue.

UV light?
 
The kung flu is going to take care of the BLMatards for us.
 
MTAtech said:
You aren’t accounting for political under counting of deaths. In Florida, the number of pneumonia deaths is 4X what it was in previous periods in previous years. That gets counted as pneumonia not COVID-19.
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I guess that you aren't aware that "Conservative" generally presents "massaged" and/or "misleading" statistics that always support his position and totally ignores any data that doesn't.
 
apdst said:
The kung flu is going to take care of the BLMatards for us.
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Indeed, I am quite sure that you will be very pleased once America has been cleansed of the taint that "Those People" have caused.
 
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