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More than 1,200 pastors say they'll defy California's state order and resume in-person services

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(CNN)A group of pastors claiming to represent tens of thousands of congregants say they're opening the doors of their churches at the end of the month despite a state order to keep them closed.

More than 1,200 pastors in California have signed a petition that says they will resume in-person services beginning on May 31. That would defy the state's stay-at-home order, which was enacted to combat the spread of the novel coronavirus.

"We believe you are attempting to act in the best interests of the state, but the restrictions have gone too far and for too long," attorney Robert Tyler, who represents the pastors and the thousands of churches and ministries they lead, wrote in a letter to California Gov. Gavin Newsom.
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More than 1,200 pastors say they'll defy California's state order and resume in-person services - CNN

This is a ticking time bomb.
 
How Christian of them to put themselves above their neighbors.
 
Here is my take on this.

Most churches in California are small tiny congregations of less than 40 people. Most of those are actually more like a business and for the purpose of providing a job and income to those pastors who rely on money from the congregation to pay their rent and put food on the table. So when we think of "churches" making this decision, it isn't like they are mostly your larger established Catholic and Protestant denomination churches with larger congregations. Many "churches" today operate out of homes and small strip mall store fronts.

I think it is important to be able to distinguish between religious organizations which are really just into it for the money. Those may be large mega churches, or tiny home mission churches. But if it is about the money, or paying the bills, or keeping the flow of dollars into the church leader's pockets---then we should be questioning this decision.

In my opinion you don't need a building or a place to get the message across today. If schools and businesses can still operate remotely for now under the pandemic, then so can most churches. The good churches, the ones who are really on the up and up, will be proceeding with caution and with regard to their members not based on losses in revenue.
 
Jay59 said:
How so? Provided minimal precautions are maintained, there is no reason why churches should not meet.
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Exactly! I think a lot of these people have an image of masses of people making a pilgrimage to Mecca in their head.
 
The resistance to the tyrannical coody codes is growing to the point where the state will be unable to police it without spilling blood.

Spilling blood, just to enforce the coody codes will only make things worse for the government.
 
I suspect the real reason is the longer churches stay closed the more people realize they don't need churches.
 
Jay59 said:
How so? Provided minimal precautions are maintained, there is no reason why churches should not meet.
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They know that, but they're enjoying the government targetting Christians.
 
Moot said:
I suspect the real reason is the longer churches stay closed the more people realize they don't need churches.
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You hope, anyway. I'm sure the anti-Christian bigots in the government are thinking the same thing. Communists are opposed to the practice of free religion.
 
apdst said:
You hope, anyway. I'm sure the anti-Christian bigots in the government are thinking the same thing. Communists are opposed to the practice of free religion.
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There's no fixing stupid. Just watch the infections soar in a couple of weeks. The problem which remains is keeping them away from the sane.
 
Manc Skipper said:
There's no fixing stupid. Just watch the infections soar in a couple of weeks. The problem which remains is keeping them away from the sane.
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People stayed home in NYC and the ones who did accounted for 66% of new infections.
 
their faith can't last for more than 2-3 months without being refreshed and they're just trying to protect the grandparents in their communities from...



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How many will they get killed, in the name of a "loving" God?
 
apdst said:
You hope, anyway. I'm sure the anti-Christian bigots in the government are thinking the same thing. Communists are opposed to the practice of free religion.
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Jesus was a communist.
 
apdst said:
They know that, but they're enjoying the government targetting Christians.
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Tell the "christians" to stop acting like assholes.
 
Drawdown said:
Doubtful. Churches are weighing their risks. Some are doing mask only and only families sit close to each other. One in my hood is doing parking lot services. Some I know are going to remain online only for next month at least even though they can re-open legally.
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I trust these guys as far as I can throw them. Churches are a perfect incubator.
 
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