Socialists Have Good Reason To Hide Under The Bed

ldsrptcvt said:

here's to hoping they start

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Fine by me - that would prove whether or not it actually saves money as promised.

Eatomus said:

With socialist utopia states of New York & New Jersey mathematically leading the country in killing people with covid I would be hiding under the bed for at least 2 more years too if I were them .

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This is the kind of mentality still damaging America....


America MUST REMOVE These Confederate Ideologist and Their Confederacy Agenda Promoters away from Our Governance Systems, and Forevery Banish the White Nationalist Vile of Wealthy White Male Dominance of Plutocratic Agenda and Autocratic Promotions from their continuing aims to damage and pervert America with such "Vile'...

The Future of America has no more time for people hung up in bigoted self centered bias, still "chasing and using words as triggers"... that have direct connections to the Jim Crow Ideology with they are embedded within in their hearts and minds... as if they think no one understands their "twisted" "usage of words such a "Socialist"...is rooted and groomed through their bias and bigotry and delusions of self centered fictions of superiority.

Such bastardized implication in the usages of the word,"Socialist" from the Right Wing and Conservative utterances, exemplifies the fact, "such types" have no respect for the principles of "Social Society", "Social Cooperation", "Shared Responsibility" as Citizen Persons and Governance Systems and Governmental Functions and all the things that are represented by the words very important statement of "WE THE PEOPLE".... that is contained in The Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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ttwtt78640 said:

Medicaid kicks in once one is broke enough.

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That's socialism, which is bad I thought....

FWIW, Medicaid wasn't available to anyone in Tennessee just because they were poor until the socialist ACA. Poor moms or dads with kids qualified, but if you were single you were SOL.

JasperL said:

That's socialism, which is bad I thought....

FWIW, Medicaid wasn't available to anyone in Tennessee just because they were poor until the socialist ACA. Poor moms or dads with kids qualified, but if you were single you were SOL.

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Texas is still that way until you turn 65.

ttwtt78640 said:

Any state is welcome to provide UHC (allegedly saving lots of money), yet none have done so.

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A big problem in practice is how to handle movement into and out of a state. If TN offered it, then someone across the state line from Chattanooga in GA gets cancer, rents an apartment two miles away in TN, and gets treatment she didn't pay taxes to fund ever, perhaps. And it's a problem for big employers who offer healthcare. What happens if they have an office in TN with Medicare for all? It would sure provide an incentive to transfer all their employees with a history of cancer to Tennessee and let Tennessee taxpayers bear that risk.

Etc. It's really hard to do piecemeal in a country with 50 states and lots of movement between them every day.

Wall Street/NY is Socialist? LOL!!!! It is the symbol and center of Capitalism.

Unbelievably dumb thread, and makes me wonder how and why threads like this go on for 11 pages..

ttwtt78640 said:

Texas is still that way until you turn 65.

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OK, so Medicaid does NOT kick in if you're poor enough in Texas. It does if you have kids...

And if it kicks in at 65, it's just socialism for the old, and people with kids, that's OK, but not socialism for working people. I don't see the principle there, to be honest.

Also, obviously, the ER mandate is just a different kind of socialism, since the uninsured poor get some treatment paid for by the rest of us. So it's a difference in funding, not whether or not we have "socialized" medicine. When we force ERs to treat the sick and injured, we've decided as a country in favor of socializing some aspects of healthcare, like we do with Medicare, and Medicaid, and the VA, and disability, etc.

JasperL said:

A big problem in practice is how to handle movement into and out of a state. If TN offered it, then someone across the state line from Chattanooga in GA gets cancer, rents an apartment two miles away in TN, and gets treatment she didn't pay taxes to fund ever, perhaps. And it's a problem for big employers who offer healthcare. What happens if they have an office in TN with Medicare for all? It would sure provide an incentive to transfer all their employees with a history of cancer to Tennessee and let Tennessee taxpayers bear that risk.

Etc. It's really hard to do piecemeal in a country with 50 states and lots of movement between them every day.

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Yep, it might be a good idea to enforce immigration/residency laws and greatly limit that nonsense.

Trump’s Newest Anti-Health Care Nominees to the Appellate Bench - Center for American Progress

President Donald Trump nominated two men to the federal appellate bench who have long records of partisan rhetoric and opposition to the expansion of affordable health care. Amid a pandemic that the president has viewed as a political problem, rather than the devastating health care crisis that it is, these nominees—Justin Walker and Cory Wilson—demonstrate Trump’s lack of regard for people’s health care.

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ttwtt78640 said:

Yep, it might be a good idea to enforce immigration/residency laws and greatly limit that nonsense.

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Those issues aren't the problem. You can't blame everything on immigrants. It's pathetic, frankly. And what "residency" law or laws should be enforced. I wasn't aware that I had to give notice to move to another state, or was restricted in when/where I could move. Weird....