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Woman who designed Florida's COVID-19 dashboard has been removed from her position

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Conspiracy theories go below.
 
Conspiracy theories go below.

Which is where the majority of your posts belong since they are bat**** crazy and moronic. So why was she fired then?
 
I wouldn't doubt it, since:

1] DeSantis stopped releasing coronovirus data to the public

2] He is essentially the same mold as Trump

Just a wacko conspiracy theory with no proof whatsoever.
 
Would emails showing she was asked to delete data help?


Florida coronavirus data manager was told to remove data before reassignment, emails show


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She wasn't fired.

She should have been fired. According to the article, she was counting people who claimed to have symptoms as people determined to be covid-19. Simply, she was lying in data to try to escalate the numbers because she wanted control, not the governor. She was prohibited from continuing to enter false data to falsely escalate the number of covid-19 cases.

Lying should get someone fired, not just reassigned.

This conspiracy theory thread is just that, a conspiracy theory not backed up by any facts whatsoever. But, then, since it is not based on facts that makes it perfect for most progressives.
 
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Was she fired? Why?

Why do you think basing your conspiracy theory on a lie is persuasive to anyone? She was not fired.
 
#MakeOrwellFictionAgain
 
No, she was not fired. ...

You think there is difference between removing someone from their job and firing them ?

I think you are correct. The difference is that if she had been fired she could collect unemployment.
 
Woman who designed Florida's COVID-19 dashboard has been removed from her position | WPEC

She claims they fired her because she would not change the data to favor the state reopening.

I never hesitate to admit when I post anything inaccurate. I researched this further. She was fired, not reassigned.

From what I read, she was not counting people who tested positive for covid-19. Rather, she was counting people who claimed to have covid-19-like symptoms, which could be caused by dozens of other illnesses and medical conditions. It appears she opposed lifting the shutdown and was doctoring numbers to exaggerate the number of people infected. IF that is accurate, she should have been fired. Reporting the number of covid-19 positive people in the state should be based upon testing, not speculating everyone with the flu, a cold, illness-caused pneumonia etc all falsely counted as covid-19.
 
Why do you think basing your conspiracy theory on a lie is persuasive to anyone? She was not fired.

My apologies. She was fired.
 
My apologies. She was fired.

Yep. According to USA Today she was fired.

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. – The scientist who created Florida's COVID-19 data portal wasn't just removed from her position on May 5, she was fired on Monday by the Department of Health, she said, for refusing to manipulate data.

Rebekah Jones said in an email to the USA TODAY Network that she single-handedly created two applications in two languages, four dashboards, six unique maps with layers of data functionality for 32 variables covering a half a million lines of data. Her objective was to create a way for Floridians and researchers to see what the COVID-19 situation was in real time.

Florida scientist fired for refusing to 'manipulate' COVID-19 data
 
I never hesitate to admit when I post anything inaccurate. I researched this further. She was fired, not reassigned.

From what I read, she was not counting people who tested positive for covid-19. Rather, she was counting people who claimed to have covid-19-like symptoms, which could be caused by dozens of other illnesses....

Source and Link To what you read please
 
She wasn't fired.

She should have been fired. According to the article, she was counting people who claimed to have symptoms as people determined to be covid-19. Simply, she was lying in data to try to escalate the numbers because she wanted control, not the governor. She was prohibited from continuing to enter false data to falsely escalate the number of covid-19 cases.

Lying should get someone fired, not just reassigned.

This conspiracy theory thread is just that, a conspiracy theory not backed up by any facts whatsoever. But, then, since it is not based on facts that makes it perfect for most progressives.

Including things like when symptoms were first reported isn't telling a lie, it's actually a better, fuller, version of the data.
 
Including things like when symptoms were first reported isn't telling a lie, it's actually a better, fuller, version of the data.

No, claiming everyone who has one of the symptoms of covid-19 is proof of covid-19 is an extreme lie. By the same token, it could be claimed everyone with covid-19 symptoms should be counted as the flu. Or malaria. Or lung cancer. Or COPD deaths. Or any one of dozens of other reasons.

Most progressives are desperate to creating as big a fake number as possible because they want to destroy the USA and harm as many Americans as greatly as possible, figuring this hurts Trump. Nothing matters to most of them but their hatred of Trump. Many progressives on this forum can't even discuss any topic other than their hatred of Trump.
 
No, claiming everyone who has one of the symptoms of covid-19 is proof of covid-19 is an extreme lie. By the same token, it could be claimed everyone with covid-19 symptoms should be counted as the flu. Or malaria. Or lung cancer. Or COPD deaths. Or any one of dozens of other reasons.

Most progressives are desperate to creating as big a fake number as possible because they want to destroy the USA and harm as many Americans as greatly as possible, figuring this hurts Trump. Nothing matters to most of them but their hatred of Trump. Many progressives on this forum can't even discuss any topic other than their hatred of Trump.

I asked you to source your false claim earlier but it seems you have no source other than your conspiracy fantasy.

I do know that Michigan only counts confirmed Covid 19 deaths.

The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Michigan has risen to 51,915 as of Saturday, [May,16,2020] including 4,915 deaths, state officials report.

That number is up from 51,142 confirmed cases and 4,891 deaths Sunday.

The official recovery total is 28,234.


In fact it appears Michigan did not count Tony Hinojosa death as Covid 19 but his daughter thinks it should have been included in the numbers, since her father tested positive for Covid 19 2 weeks before he died.

Local 4 contacted the Detroit, Wayne, Oakland and Macomb county health departments to try and get a handle on Southeast Michigan nursing home coronavirus deaths.

Detroit alone had more than 10,000 positive cases and 307 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Macomb County had 277 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Oakland County had 459 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Wayne County had 421 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
READ: Michigan’s policy of housing COVID-19 nursing home patients with uninfected patients comes under scrutiny

One person not counted in those numbers is 68-year-old Tony Hinojosa of Chesaning. He had Parkinson’s Disease and lived in a Chesaning nursing home. He tested positive two weeks ago and died last Thursday.

“He was yelling and it wasn’t -- he didn’t yell and he was like, ‘I’m done. I’m not gonna keep fighting.’ And I was begging him to keep fighting. ‘I can’t. I’m done, tell your mom I love her,’" his daughter said.

Michigan considers change to controversial nursing home policy
 
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What she was doing was unilaterally changing numbers without talking to any of the scientists, doctors and medical experts in the State Health Department - herself a apparent drop out from a PhD program. Her field of study? Bachelor's degrees in GEOGRAPHY and JOURNALISM! She has no relevant education whatsoever, - literally NONE and had been with the Health Department for data entry only. Yet she was altering the statistics prepared by scientists, doctors and epidemiologists to instead post her own numbers online and in press releases.

She was employed by the Florida Department of Health less than 2 years, deciding only she understood covid-19, and therefore summarily and without any authorization replaced the statistics complied by scientists, experts and doctors with her own - and was at least given the option of resigning when she got caught.

Overall, she's just a wacko personally and a young woman who bombed out going beyond bachelor degrees in geography and journalism, deciding she was THE top expert on viruses, pandemics and medical doctors - erasing their numbers and replacing them with her own.

All the attacks and lies with those are just cheesy partisan attacks against Florida's Republican governor, although he did not participate in the decision. "When asked during a Tuesday news conference about Jones’ public email detailing her reassignment, DeSantis said he did not know who she was but that he had been shown an email that Jones sent to her supervisor, apologizing.


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Her "expertise" in viruses, pandemics and epidemiology? She has a masters degree in geography. With this, she was covertly changing statistics created by actual PhDs and experts.

“Rebekah Jones exhibited a repeated course of insubordination during her time with the department, including her unilateral decisions to modify the Department’s COVID-19 dashboard without input or approval from the epidemiological team or her supervisors,” Ferré said. “The blatant disrespect for the professionals who were working around the clock to provide the important information for the COVID-19 website was harmful to the team. Accuracy and transparency are always indispensable, especially during an unprecedented public health emergency such as COVID-19. Having someone disruptive cannot be tolerated during this public pandemic, which led the department to determine that it was best to terminate her employment.

Jones had previously been pursuing a doctoral degree in geography at Florida State University, where she was enrolled from the fall of 2016 through the spring of 2018. While there, a romantic relationship between Jones and a former student turned contentious and she currently faces a criminal stalking charge that is awaiting trial next month.”
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A person with only bachelors degrees in geography and journalism decided she knows more than every expert, doctor and specialist - so she erased their statistics and replaced them with her own. Yeah, that'll get you fired as it should. All the ranting about it is just grotesque partisan hackery.

Or do you progressives ranting about this also think someone with a bachelors degree in art should be put in charge of the CDC - who then should erase all CDC data and replace it with his/her own calculations too? Why keep Fauci or any of the rest when there must be a 23 year old art student who could replace everyone at the CDC with his/her own theories?
 
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You know how we all wondered how moderate muslims could silently support such corruption by the extremists?

Todays Republicans/Conservatives have shown us all how easy it is.
 
I asked you to source your false claim earlier but it seems you have no source other than your conspiracy fantasy.

I do know that Michigan only counts confirmed Covid 19 deaths.




In fact it appears Michigan did not count Tony Hinojosa death as Covid 19 but his daughter thinks it should have been included in the numbers, since her father tested positive for Covid 19 2 weeks before he died.



Michigan considers change to controversial nursing home policy

What? YOU are who has the conspiracy theory. That is all this thread is - another Democratic partisan hackery conspiracy theory - and an absurd one at that.

But OK - explain how a bachelor's degree in geography and in journalism made her THE singular and top expert on viruses, pandemics and statistics on a pandemic? You can't, but you don't care, do you? Just attack the Republican governor of Florida - even though he had absolutely nothing to do with it.

"One day before a top Florida Department of Health data manager lost her role maintaining the state’s COVID-19 data, she objected to the removal of records showing people had symptoms or positive tests before the cases were announced, according to internal emails obtained by the Tampa Bay Times."
Florida coronavirus data manager was told to remove data before reassignment, emails show

Counting people with "symptoms" counts EVERYONE with pneumonia, COPD, is on Chemo, has lung cancer, allergies and dozens of other ailments with similar symptoms to covid-19. She though the shutdown should continue, so she was pursuing her own agenda with grossly false statistics to lie about how many confirmed covid-19 cases there are. That was the dispute. The EXPERTS, SCIENTISTS AND DOCTORS said "confirmed" cases should be counted. She said anyone who coughed or sneezed should be counted as a covid-19 infection and anyone who died who had ever had any symptom attributable to dozens of of health issues all should be counted a covid-19.

Many progressives hate accuracy because they want the the absolute highest covid-19 counts possible no matter how much of lying it takes.
 
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You know how we all wondered how moderate muslims could silently support such corruption by the extremists?

Todays Republicans/Conservatives have shown us all how easy it is.

:eek:t..
 
What she was doing was unilaterally changing numbers without talking to any of the scientists, doctors and medical experts in the State Health Department - …

She was employed by the Florida Department of Health less than 2 years, deciding only she understood covid-19, …

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Maybe you posted the wrong link.

The link says

DeSantis administration fires COVID-19 data guru for ‘insubordination’

Jones had attracted national attention for her work creating the dashboard, which had been singled out for praise last month by Deborah Birx, coordinator of the White House Coronavirus task force.

After the news of her ouster, state Sen. José Javier Rodríguez, D-Miami, called for an investigation into Jones’ removal and allegations that she had been pressured to manipulate data.

“It’s infuriating and very dangerous if, in fact, employees who manage public information are being asked to alter it for an objective other than to provide information to the public,” Rodriguez said. “You have decisionmakers in the private sector and the public sector looking to this data to make life and death decisions.”

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