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Why American life went on as normal during the killer pandemic of 1969

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Glitch said:
It wasn't Trump who destroyed our economy, that would be the Governors of each State. It wasn't Trump who shutdown the nation, the Governors did that with their declared emergencies. I know you really and truly want to blame Trump for absolutely everything. A common trait among those with Trump Derangement Symptom. In this particular case, it was the Governors who destroyed the economy, not the President.

Democrats and their sycophants in the media did their best to intentionally create fear and incite terror by broadcasting misinformation 24/7, which they are still doing today. The goal of these anti-American leftist freaks was to deliberately destroy the economy in order to make reelecting Trump more difficult. Leftist scum believe the more harm they can do to the nation, the better their chances are against Trump.

Leftists want Americans to die in huge numbers. Which is why Democrat Governors placed seniors with COVID-19 into senior centers to die, rather than treat them in hospitals. Democrat Governors have the lives of thousands of Americans on their hands. They are truly mass murderers since their actions were deliberate and they knew in advance that thousands would die because of their actions.

We are in this mess because of the lies by Democrats and their sycophants in the media deliberately inciting terror. Which is why the Democratic Party should be declared a terrorist organization under Public Law 107-40, have their assets seized, its leadership imprisoned in GITMO, and arrest any Democrat terrorist supporter. The Democratic Party is without doubt the greatest enemy this nation has ever faced. Already responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought combined, and now they are adding thousands more American deaths.
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Right... Evil liberals in safe blue states cratered their local economy to prevent Trump from winning... states he was never going to win.
 
Glitch said:
It wasn't Trump who destroyed our economy, that would be the Governors of each State. It wasn't Trump who shutdown the nation, the Governors did that with their declared emergencies. I know you really and truly want to blame Trump for absolutely everything. A common trait among those with Trump Derangement Symptom. In this particular case, it was the Governors who destroyed the economy, not the President.

Democrats and their sycophants in the media did their best to intentionally create fear and incite terror by broadcasting misinformation 24/7, which they are still doing today. The goal of these anti-American leftist freaks was to deliberately destroy the economy in order to make reelecting Trump more difficult. Leftist scum believe the more harm they can do to the nation, the better their chances are against Trump.

Leftists want Americans to die in huge numbers. Which is why Democrat Governors placed seniors with COVID-19 into senior centers to die, rather than treat them in hospitals. Democrat Governors have the lives of thousands of Americans on their hands. They are truly mass murderers since their actions were deliberate and they knew in advance that thousands would die because of their actions.

We are in this mess because of the lies by Democrats and their sycophants in the media deliberately inciting terror. Which is why the Democratic Party should be declared a terrorist organization under Public Law 107-40, have their assets seized, its leadership imprisoned in GITMO, and arrest any Democrat terrorist supporter. The Democratic Party is without doubt the greatest enemy this nation has ever faced. Already responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought combined, and now they are adding thousands more American deaths.
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Right, the mother****er is purer than driven snow that is why so many imbeciles and degenerates are so ardently lining up to kiss his fat ass.
 
Mithros said:
Right... Evil liberals in safe blue states cratered their local economy to prevent Trump from winning... states he was never going to win.
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Absolutely. That is what Democrats do. They destroy the lives of Americans and their own economies in order to make political points. Democrat Governor Chiles played that game in 1992 with hurricane Andrew. Democrat Governor Blanco played that game in 2005 with hurricane Katrina. Now Democrat Governors Cuomo, Wolf, Murphy, Hogan, and Baker are directly responsible for killing thousands of Americans intentionally by placing the most vulnerable into Senior Centers in order to infect even more Americans and to ensure more Americans die in the process.

These are truly sick and twisted leftist freaks, and they need to be introduced to the full penalty of the law for their crimes.
 
Glitch said:
Absolutely. That is what Democrats do. They destroy the lives of Americans and their own economies in order to make political points. Democrat Governor Chiles played that game in 1992 with hurricane Andrew. Democrat Governor Blanco played that game in 2005 with hurricane Katrina. Now Democrat Governors Cuomo, Wolf, Murphy, Hogan, and Baker are directly responsible for killing thousands of Americans intentionally by placing the most vulnerable into Senior Centers in order to infect even more Americans and to ensure more Americans die in the process.

These are truly sick and twisted leftist freaks, and they need to be introduced to the full penalty of the law for their crimes.
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WTF is wrong with you? Democrats are intentionally murdering senior citizens????
 
Mithros said:
WTF is wrong with you? Democrats are intentionally murdering senior citizens????
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What planet have you been living on? Of course Democrats are intentionally murdering Americans. It is what they do best. Democrats are already responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought, combined. The Democratic Party began their killing spree with the Trail of Tears, and continue it to this day with their intentional massacre of thousands of senior Americans.

This nursing home disaster is on you, Gov. Cuomo: Goodwin
WATCHDOG: Cuomo 'DOOMS' Seniors by Forcing Nursing Homes to Take COVID Patients - Liberty Headlines
 
Thoreau72 said:
I'm glad you're easy to convince, and I'm sorry I have not written down or otherwise annotated every article I've read and video (soon censored) that I've watched so that I could spoon feed you dissenting information.

Perhaps you are so easy to convince that you let Fauci's campaign of fear convince you? Perhaps you like to be convinced by Lester Holt or Scott Pelley?

Perhaps you are so easy to convince that you prefer to be informed by others than informing yourself?

If you are not aware of the numerous medical professionals who have spoken out, dissented, regarding the accounting procedures for cause of death regarding Covid, that strongly suggests you are also not very curious at all. You prefer the official narratives, and not asking questions.
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Are you suggesting that numerous medical professionals have claimed that COVID deaths are being overcounted?
 
Glitch said:
It wasn't Trump who destroyed our economy, that would be the Governors of each State. It wasn't Trump who shutdown the nation, the Governors did that with their declared emergencies. I know you really and truly want to blame Trump for absolutely everything. A common trait among those with Trump Derangement Symptom. In this particular case, it was the Governors who destroyed the economy, not the President.

Democrats and their sycophants in the media did their best to intentionally create fear and incite terror by broadcasting misinformation 24/7, which they are still doing today. The goal of these anti-American leftist freaks was to deliberately destroy the economy in order to make reelecting Trump more difficult. Leftist scum believe the more harm they can do to the nation, the better their chances are against Trump.

Leftists want Americans to die in huge numbers. Which is why Democrat Governors placed seniors with COVID-19 into senior centers to die, rather than treat them in hospitals. Democrat Governors have the lives of thousands of Americans on their hands. They are truly mass murderers since their actions were deliberate and they knew in advance that thousands would die because of their actions.

We are in this mess because of the lies by Democrats and their sycophants in the media deliberately inciting terror. Which is why the Democratic Party should be declared a terrorist organization under Public Law 107-40, have their assets seized, its leadership imprisoned in GITMO, and arrest any Democrat terrorist supporter. The Democratic Party is without doubt the greatest enemy this nation has ever faced. Already responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought combined, and now they are adding thousands more American deaths.
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Holy rant. It's actually Trump supporters who are all those things you wrote, but I wouldn't go so far as to paint all conservatives with such a stupid, over-sized brush. No rational person in the world thinks liberalism is what you just described.
 
Diesel said:
Are you suggesting that numerous medical professionals have claimed that COVID deaths are being overcounted?
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More than suggesting it.

Over these last few months sitting at home on the infernal computer, I've seen a dozen or more, doctors, nurses and funeral directors, from New York to Montana to California. Dr. Erickson was censored early on for speaking the truth.

The censorship of those whistleblowers is prima facie evidence that they are speaking the truth. Authorities ALWAYS censor truth tellers, and sometimes they put them in jail. Judy Mikovits was put in jail without charges because she exposed the truth and threatened authority.
 
Diesel said:
Are you suggesting that numerous medical professionals have claimed that COVID deaths are being overcounted?
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Thoreau72 said:
More than suggesting it.

Over these last few months sitting at home on the infernal computer, I've seen a dozen or more, doctors, nurses and funeral directors, from New York to Montana to California. Dr. Erickson was censored early on for speaking the truth.

The censorship of those whistleblowers is prima facie evidence that they are speaking the truth. Authorities ALWAYS censor truth tellers, and sometimes they put them in jail. Judy Mikovits was put in jail without charges because she exposed the truth and threatened authority.
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I don’t know about other states but Michigan only counts confirmed Covid 19 deaths.

The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Michigan has risen to 51,915 as of Saturday, [May,16,2020] including 4,915 deaths, state officials report.

That number is up from 51,142 confirmed cases and 4,891 deaths Sunday.

The official recovery total is 28,234.
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In fact it appears Michigan did not count Tony Hinojosa death as Covid 19 but his daughter thinks it should have been included in the numbers , since her father tested positive for Covid 19 2 weeks Before he died.

Local 4 contacted the Detroit, Wayne, Oakland and Macomb county health departments to try and get a handle on Southeast Michigan nursing home coronavirus deaths.

Detroit alone had more than 10,000 positive cases and 307 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Macomb County had 277 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Oakland County had 459 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
Wayne County had 421 nursing home COVID-19 deaths.
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READ: Michigan’s policy of housing COVID-19 nursing home patients with uninfected patients comes under scrutiny
One person not counted in those numbers is 68-year-old Tony Hinojosa of Chesaning. He had Parkinson’s Disease and lived in a Chesaning nursing home. He tested positive two weeks ago and died last Thursday.

“He was yelling and it wasn’t -- he didn’t yell and he was like, ‘I’m done. I’m not gonna keep fighting.’ And I was begging him to keep fighting. ‘I can’t. I’m done, tell your mom I love her,’" his daughter said.
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Michigan considers change to controversial nursing home policy
 
Thoreau72 said:
More than suggesting it.

Over these last few months sitting at home on the infernal computer, I've seen a dozen or more, doctors, nurses and funeral directors, from New York to Montana to California. Dr. Erickson was censored early on for speaking the truth.

The censorship of those whistleblowers is prima facie evidence that they are speaking the truth. Authorities ALWAYS censor truth tellers, and sometimes they put them in jail. Judy Mikovits was put in jail without charges because she exposed the truth and threatened authority.
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No. I don't do conspiracy theories. Try again.

I've seen countless medical professionals suggest that COVID deaths have been undercounted. Who are these dozen people you've seen say that they're being overcounted and where did you see their comments?
 
Diesel said:
No. I don't do conspiracy theories. Try again.

I've seen countless medical professionals suggest that COVID deaths have been undercounted. Who are these dozen people you've seen say that they're being overcounted and where did you see their comments?
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What you mean to say is that you do ONLY Official Conspiracy Theories. That makes you quite typical. Never do your own analysis and thinking. NEVER reach your own conclusions. Your government is looking out for you, and will tell you how best to view the world around you.
 
Thoreau72 said:
What you mean to say is that you do ONLY Official Conspiracy Theories. That makes you quite typical. Never do your own analysis and thinking. NEVER reach your own conclusions. Your government is looking out for you, and will tell you how best to view the world around you.
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Again ,, there have been many deaths from Covid 19 That were not counted.

From the following Kaiser Health News article:

The Missing Deaths: Autopsies Uncover Hidden Victims From Early February

Year-Over-Year Data Reveal Uncounted
New information from two individuals who died at home in early- and mid-February suggest that the virus was likely circulating in the country earlier than officials thought. Meanwhile, a look at year-over-year fatality data reveals that there are likely thousands of COVID-19 deaths that aren't getting counted. Meanwhile, CDC Director Robert Redfield warns it's likely the winter surge will be worse because it will coincide with the flu season.

The New York Times: Santa Clara County Coronavirus Death Is First Known In U.S.

Officials in Santa Clara County, Calif., announced late Tuesday that two residents there died of the coronavirus in early and mid-February, making them the earliest known victims of the pandemic in the United States. The new information may shift the timeline of the virus’s spread through the country weeks earlier than previously believed. The first report of a coronavirus-related death in the United States came on Feb. 29 in the Seattle area, although officials there later discovered that two people who had died Feb. 26 also had the virus. (Fuller and Baker, 4/22)

Reuters: First U.S. Coronavirus Death Occurred In Early February In California

"The Medical Examiner-Coroner performed autopsies on two individuals who died at home on February 6, 2020 and February 17, 2020", Santa Clara County Public Health said in a statement. “Today, the Medical Examiner-Coroner received confirmation from the CDC that tissue samples from both cases are positive for SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19)”, the statement added. (Singh, 4/22)

Los Angeles Times: Coronavirus: Bay Area Deaths In February Were First In U.S.

Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, said earlier this month that data collected by the CDC, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.” “This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.” (Hamilton, St. John and Lin, 4/21)

The New York Times: 28,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking The True Toll Of The Coronavirus Crisis

At least 28,000 more people have died during the coronavirus pandemic over the last month than the official Covid-19 death counts report, a review of mortality data in 11 countries shows — providing a clearer, if still incomplete, picture of the toll of the crisis. In the last month, far more people died in these countries than in previous years, The New York Times found. The totals include deaths from Covid-19 as well as those from other causes, likely including people who could not be treated as hospitals became overwhelmed. (Wu and McCann, 4/21)

The New York Times: State By State: Comparing Coronavirus Death Rates Across U.S.

Since the first confirmed case, the coronavirus has spread to all 50 states, claiming the lives of Americans coast to coast.

This week, several Southern governors announced that they would ease restrictions on businesses. ....
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Read more:

The Missing Deaths: Autopsies Uncover Hidden Victims From Early February; Year-Over-Year Data Reveal Uncounted | Kaiser Health News
 
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Thoreau72 said:
What you mean to say is that you do ONLY Official Conspiracy Theories. That makes you quite typical. Never do your own analysis and thinking. NEVER reach your own conclusions. Your government is looking out for you, and will tell you how best to view the world around you.
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For the third time, Thoreau72: Post a ****ing source. I have no idea why you're rambling mindlessly about government. It's medical professionals, in their own words, who have suggested that COVID deaths have been undercounted.
 
Diesel said:
For the third time, Thoreau72: Post a ****ing source. I have no idea why you're rambling mindlessly about government. It's medical professionals, in their own words, who have suggested that COVID deaths have been undercounted.
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Inform yourself sir. I have no obligation to inform or educate you. If you have not seen any of the work of Erickson, interviews with Mikovits and so forth, then likely the efforts to censor those whistleblowers has been very successful in your incurious situation.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Inform yourself sir. I have no obligation to inform or educate you. If you have not seen any of the work of Erickson, interviews with Mikovits and so forth, then likely the efforts to censor those whistleblowers has been very successful in your incurious situation.
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Source, Thoreau72. Where is it? Hmm?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Inform yourself sir. I have no obligation to inform or educate you. If you have not seen any of the work of Erickson, interviews with Mikovits and so forth, then likely the efforts to censor those whistleblowers has been very successful in your incurious situation.
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Actually, Erickson and Mikovits were not just miShaken, they were dangerously wrong.

From:

In a rare statement late today, a the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they “emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19.
As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.”

The doctors had set up Bakersfield’s only private walk-in COVID-19 testing site and performed about half of all tests conducted in the area. They did not respond to a CalMatters request for comment today.

Misinformation thrives in a pandemic, and public health officials in California and elsewhere just can’t keep up.

“This pandemic has been so severely politicized in this country that evidence, no matter how poor, gets amplified enormously if it benefits one side or another,” said Bergstrom, who also was one of the first experts to critique the doctors’ study on Twitter. “We always hoped this crisis wouldn’t come, but that if it did we’d all be in this together. That’s been a huge surprise for all of us doing infectious disease epidemiology.

It’s amazing to have to deal with this misinformation that’s being spread around for political purposes and the ways that interferes with adequate public health response.”
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Cue the debunking: Two California doctors go viral with dubious COVID test conclusions
 
Wayne Jr said:
Given that Social Security is bankrupt and about to die, while my mutual funds average 8-12% growth per year, yes, I think it is ok to trust the private sector more than the government.
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The government cannot go bankrupt.
 
Wayne Jr said:
The CDC expects about 1 million men to die of cancer this year, and about 900,000 women.

Covid-19 is only around 90k US deaths total.
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That was without any effort. Do you know how models work? You have to input a scenario.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Heck this shutdown is to protect the boomers. A lot of boomers are older and in poor health.
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Well, New York did a poor job protecting them by sending recovering Coronavirus patience to nursing home right?

Oh my....
 
Paradoxical said:
My mind boggles reading the posts from these nail biter snowflakes who peek out from behind the blinds and ask mommy if it's safe to go outside now.
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it is mind boggling. i read a post from one of the biggest Trump supporters here, the other day, where he said that wearing a mask into and out of a resturant ruined his dining experience.

talk about a snowflake.
 
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